Networking Group - JCs General

[Imp75]

floppy:

zbear:

My interpretation of MOE's move is a signal to O level students who score more than 10 pointers to choose Poly route instead of JC as I see that the partnership of the merged JCs - low tier JC stops intake n gets absorbed into mid tier JC.


Eventually those who score more than 10 points will have a lesser choice of JCs and more Polys to choose.

Yes, could well be the case.

However, it's not really a case of low tier JCs being absorbed into mid tier JCs given that the only mid tier JC is AJC (in the headline). The rest are the 7 JCs with the worst off COP.

Anyone wonder why do they touch AJC and not some other JCs like CJC,NYJC, ACJC. Is it b/c of affiliation and therefore more uproar? I just felt AJC got short-changed....

[floppy]

Imp75:

floppy:

[quote=\"zbear\"]My interpretation of MOE's move is a signal to O level students who score more than 10 pointers to choose Poly route instead of JC as I see that the partnership of the merged JCs - low tier JC stops intake n gets absorbed into mid tier JC.


Eventually those who score more than 10 points will have a lesser choice of JCs and more Polys to choose.

Yes, could well be the case.

However, it's not really a case of low tier JCs being absorbed into mid tier JCs given that the only mid tier JC is AJC (in the headline). The rest are the 7 JCs with the worst off COP.

Anyone wonder why do they touch AJC and not some other JCs like CJC,NYJC, ACJC. Is it b/c of affiliation and therefore more uproar? I just felt AJC got short-changed....[/quote]CJC / ACJC / NYJC - affiliation.

Next nearest alternative: AJC. No affiliation. That's one less group of stakeholders to worry about.

[sharonkhoo]

floppy:

Sieg:

I agree that on the whole, everyone who is eligible and wish to go JC will be granted a place 'at the moment'. However, the way MOE handled those lower tier JCs while creating prestigious one such as EJC shows its favourism towards elitism.
To further explain, all parents want the best for their kids and some (if not most) will stretch their young kids to the limit so as survive this rat race.

This is the COP for JC last year:
http://www.straitstimes.com/sites/default/files/attachments/2016/01/29/st_20160129_amcutoff29_2027059.pdf

Effectively, they have removed all the JCs with COP higher than 10 (the bottom rung of 7 JCs). Sadly, the unintended (?) message is if you score higher than 10 points for L1R5, don't bother with the JC route as you probably can't get in, or you probably can't make it (to U) even if you do.

The way I see it, all that has happened is that the JC places have been moved around. If existing JCs expand their intake, they will have space to take in students with higher points, and COPs will fall. The JCs cannot keep their COPs unchanged if they still have vacancies.

And I expect that one of the main factors for selecting which JCs to close is whether student nos. are falling. Those with falling enrolments are likely to be the least popular (ie. highest COP figures?)

And it is true that a good no. of A level students will not make it to university; that is the case now and this closure of JCs will not change that. Students (and their parents) should understand this at the outset, surely?

[candyfan]

slmkhoo:

The way I see it, all that has happened is that the JC places have been moved around. If existing JCs expand their intake, they will have space to take in students with higher points, and COPs will fall. The JCs cannot keep their COPs unchanged if they still have vacancies.

And I expect that one of the main factors for selecting which JCs to close is whether student nos. are falling. Those with falling enrolments are likely to be the least popular (ie. highest COP figures?)

And it is true that a good no. of A level students will not make it to university; that is the case now and this closure of JCs will not change that. Students (and their parents) should understand this at the outset, surely?

Have you heard of SIM GE, Kaplan, JCU, MDIS, PSB? These are local private universities offering degree courses for those A level students who can't secure a place or a choice course in local uni. Though most will require a minimum of 3H2 passes and a pass in O level Eng for the A level students, it's not exactly unachievable for most. Our latest stats shows 92.6% of our A level students has obtained at least 3H2 passes with a pass in GP.

[Imp75]

floppy:

CJC / ACJC / NYJC - affiliation.

Next nearest alternative: AJC. No affiliation. That's one less group of stakeholders to worry about.

I dread to see AJC fall from a single-digit COP to a double-digit COP.
during my time, after the big 5 JC, this is the JC to go to....(based on COP)

[Nebbermind]

stetan:

floppy:

[quote=\"stetan\"]
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Then if their GPA CMI, they realize that most of our local unis don't want them and their 2+ GPA and regret. You need almost perfect GPA to go to our local U

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I don't see the validity of this argument.

You will also need near perfect A level results to make it to our local U (unless you are willing to take whatever course they offer).

I think he is comparing the ease to get to U via JC or Poly route irregardless of course. Certainly dont need near perfect A level result to get to courses like Arts[/quote]But isn't that the result of the streaming process?
There are more top students going to JC so naturally more will end up getting a place in local unis.
Same for top kids choosing a certain R school => more will get into med school n law

[thsheng99]

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[thsheng99]

Nebbermind:

But isn't that the result of the streaming process?
There are more top students going to JC so naturally more will end up getting a place in local unis.
Same for top kids choosing a certain R school => more will get into med school n law

Yup. That's true too.

Actually I think the COP for most JCs will fall next year with the top JCs having to expand their cohort intake. Viewing it more positively, it will be easier to get into Ri/HCI than previously

[zeemimi]

Imp75:

floppy:

CJC / ACJC / NYJC - affiliation.

Next nearest alternative: AJC. No affiliation. That's one less group of stakeholders to worry about.

I dread to see AJC fall from a single-digit COP to a double-digit COP.
during my time, after the big 5 JC, this is the JC to go to....(based on COP)

It seems like anderson jc bore the brunt of the merger as she was a convenient choice. SRJC is nowhere near AJC. As a compensation, AJC should be allowed to retain her name. Looking at the names floating around Internet, I would imagine AJC to be the most miserable one.

[floppy]

zeemimi:

Imp75:

[quote=\"floppy\"]
CJC / ACJC / NYJC - affiliation.

Next nearest alternative: AJC. No affiliation. That's one less group of stakeholders to worry about.

I dread to see AJC fall from a single-digit COP to a double-digit COP.
during my time, after the big 5 JC, this is the JC to go to....(based on COP)

It seems like anderson jc bore the brunt of the merger as she was a convenient choice. SRJC is nowhere near AJC. As a compensation, AJC should be allowed to retain her name. Looking at the names floating around Internet, I would imagine AJC to be the most miserable one.[/quote]Sadly, that was my JC lor
It was no. 6 to 8 and after the top 5 in the past. It was a 'neighbourhood' JC and was the top choice for most of the better students who stayed in the North but weren't willing to travel to the 3 JCs in Bukit Timah, the 1 JC in Bedok and the 1 JC in Marine Parade.

Even today, while no longer among the top choices, it has a healthy and good intake of students. I agree it is just a matter of convenience for SRJC to merge into AJC and not really due to 'falling' numbers for AJC.