DSA 2017

[kash313]

Musings:

SKGDADDY:

Congrats to all those who received CO's .. can any one who appeared for NUS , advice what was the level of science and Maths questions.. was it P6 level or sec1 level ? Any info will be helpful to plan for next year

DS said Maths was slightly easier than NMOS and definitely easier than SMOPS.

Science was quite advanced - including from upper sec/o level. Topics for science tested in selection test include reactivity series, isotopes and atomic structure, antibodies and antigens, carbon cycle, osmosis/diffusion, electrolysis, chemical reactions and reactants in excess, turning effect of forces, DNA. But standard of Science in selection test was easier than SPSO.

My Son found Maths easier then NMOS but science was more hands on practical science. Specially in camp, there was almost no maths - just Science - and the concepts were of much complex level then P6. He is on waitlist at present. This has actually got me thinking that if a kid is not so good in science shld he really choose NUS high. My son was in APMOPS and quiet good in Maths but his Science is average. Lets see.

[kash313]

Musings:

SKGDADDY:

Congrats to all those who received CO's .. can any one who appeared for NUS , advice what was the level of science and Maths questions.. was it P6 level or sec1 level ? Any info will be helpful to plan for next year

DS said Maths was slightly easier than NMOS and definitely easier than SMOPS.

Science was quite advanced - including from upper sec/o level. Topics for science tested in selection test include reactivity series, isotopes and atomic structure, antibodies and antigens, carbon cycle, osmosis/diffusion, electrolysis, chemical reactions and reactants in excess, turning effect of forces, DNA. But standard of Science in selection test was easier than SPSO.

My Son found Maths easier then NMOS but science was more hands on practical science. Specially in camp, there was almost no maths - just Science - and the concepts were of much complex level then P6. He is on waitlist at present. This has actually got me thinking that if a kid is not so good in science shld he really choose NUS high. My son was in APMOPS and quiet good in Maths but his Science is average. Lets see.

[charchel]

bbcat:

This is a very sad case. She is DSA sport student. My DD1 is her senior in CCA and was giving her some 'counselling' in March, she had few friends in the class(heard only 3 of them talked to her) so was upset about it. But, she seemed okay after that and talked happily & enjoyed training, they wanted to talk to her last Fri again after the school but she committed suicide the day before, the whole team was very sad any my DD1 thought things could be different if they could talk to her earlier, DD1 cried few times. We told her that there was no sign at all and even her own parents didnt notice it, moreover she is not a trained counsellor, heard she was still doing baking together with friends before the incident.


P/S. My DD1 is in IP and not via DSA so she might not know if it is really hard for DSA students to cope with the studies.

Charchel, your DD1 sounds like a very caring and compassionate girl. I am sorry for the grief she must be going through. I hope you continue to give her lots of love and reassurance so that she knows she has nothing to feel regretful for. In fact, she has already gone out of her way to bring comfort and hope to a schoolmate in need. That in itself speaks volumes about her character.[/quote]

Thanks bbcat. DD1 is feeling better, it's not easy for them to face such incident at their age, they attended her wake and said the whole team had no more tear left, the coach told them to move on.

[KQE]

charchel:

This is a very sad case. She is DSA sport student. My DD1 is her senior and was giving her some 'counselling' in March, she had few friends in the class(heard only 3 of them talked to her) so was upset about it. But, she seemed okay after that and talked happily & enjoyed training, they wanted to talk to her last Fri again after the school but she committed suicide the day before, the whole team was very sad any my DD1 thought things could be different if they could talk to her earlier, DD1 cried few times. We told her that there was no sign at all and even her own parents didnt notice it, moreover she is not a trained counsellor, heard she was still doing baking together with friends before the incident.

P/S. My DD1 is in IP and not via DSA so she might not know if it is really hard for DSA students to cope with the studies.

Please tell your DD that she had tried her best in helping. The teachers might have known about the issue but did nothing, since IP has many group work (if the child is in IP). This is the scariest part to a child if it is true. (Don't flame me if not.) Many times they hope that the adults can do something besides talking to them alone. They wish that the adults can step in to help them reconcile with their friends. They are still young to handle so many issues, i.e. jump from 4 to 8/9 subjects in Sec 1, friendship issue, puberty issue, etc. I hope this serves as a wake-up call to the adults. Don't sit there and do nothing if kids confide in you.

Our kids may not be the victims but there are times that they may be the bullies unknowingly, e.g. staying away from a particular classmate, telling ABC not to be a friend of XYZ, disallowing a classmate to join in group work, etc. The children need not be good friends but they are all classmates/friends. As parents, we need to watch out for this too and remind our kids. Having 1 more friend is definitely better than having an enemy.

Above is JMPO for sharing, don't flame me if you disagree.

[Harrychew]

charchel:

This is a very sad case. She is DSA sport student. My DD1 is her senior in CCA and was giving her some 'counselling' in March, she had few friends in the class(heard only 3 of them talked to her) so was upset about it. But, she seemed okay after that and talked happily & enjoyed training, they wanted to talk to her last Fri again after the school but she committed suicide the day before, the whole team was very sad any my DD1 thought things could be different if they could talk to her earlier, DD1 cried few times. We told her that there was no sign at all and even her own parents didnt notice it, moreover she is not a trained counsellor, heard she was still doing baking together with friends before the incident.


P/S. My DD1 is in IP and not via DSA so she might not know if it is really hard for DSA students to cope with the studies.

Parents and educators should take full responsibility for CCA DSA kids. It is unfair to for the schoolmates to shoulder the blame. Educators have known about issues with non-academic DSA for decades (before DSA, top schools regularly took in weak students to win sports medals). Putting a sports kid with average academic ability in a top academic school is just like putting a nerd in a sports school. Even if there is no explicit bullying, the child will be very self-conscious and may start magnifying every single slight, imaginary or real.

Teenagers may crack under relentless pressure as they have yet to develop the maturity to handle so much in such a short time. Some will become withdrawn, while some will rebel, and a few will be mentally ill as a result of so much pressure.

[Musings]

kash313:

Musings:

[quote=\"SKGDADDY\"]Congrats to all those who received CO's .. can any one who appeared for NUS , advice what was the level of science and Maths questions.. was it P6 level or sec1 level ? Any info will be helpful to plan for next year

DS said Maths was slightly easier than NMOS and definitely easier than SMOPS.

Science was quite advanced - including from upper sec/o level. Topics for science tested in selection test include reactivity series, isotopes and atomic structure, antibodies and antigens, carbon cycle, osmosis/diffusion, electrolysis, chemical reactions and reactants in excess, turning effect of forces, DNA. But standard of Science in selection test was easier than SPSO.

My Son found Maths easier then NMOS but science was more hands on practical science. Specially in camp, there was almost no maths - just Science - and the concepts were of much complex level then P6. He is on waitlist at present. This has actually got me thinking that if a kid is not so good in science shld he really choose NUS high. My son was in APMOPS and quiet good in Maths but his Science is average. Lets see.[/quote]kash313

I believe as long as your DS has passion in Science, he will be fine. DS got CO. His interest is in Science rather than Maths though he has several MO awards (but not gold/platinum). He set his heart on NUSH 2 years ago because he gets to do the triple sciences in depth and also programming, robotics and astronomy!

[E2014]

Harrychew:

charchel:

This is a very sad case. She is DSA sport student. My DD1 is her senior in CCA and was giving her some 'counselling' in March, she had few friends in the class(heard only 3 of them talked to her) so was upset about it. But, she seemed okay after that and talked happily & enjoyed training, they wanted to talk to her last Fri again after the school but she committed suicide the day before, the whole team was very sad any my DD1 thought things could be different if they could talk to her earlier, DD1 cried few times. We told her that there was no sign at all and even her own parents didnt notice it, moreover she is not a trained counsellor, heard she was still doing baking together with friends before the incident.


P/S. My DD1 is in IP and not via DSA so she might not know if it is really hard for DSA students to cope with the studies.

Parents and educators should take full responsibility for CCA DSA kids. It is unfair to for the schoolmates to shoulder the blame. Educators have known about issues with non-academic DSA for decades (before DSA, top schools regularly took in weak students to win sports medals). Putting a sports kid with average academic ability in a top academic school is just like putting a nerd in a sports school. Even if there is no explicit bullying, the child will be very self-conscious and may start magnifying every single slight, imaginary or real.

Teenagers may crack under relentless pressure as they have yet to develop the maturity to handle so much in such a short time. Some will become withdrawn, while some will rebel, and a few will be mentally ill as a result of so much pressure.

This is truly a sad case. We should stop sharing details of her circumstances. Much of which would really be just our own speculations and interpretations of what she went thru. Please spare a thought for her parents.

[E2014]

Harrychew:

charchel:

This is a very sad case. She is DSA sport student. My DD1 is her senior in CCA and was giving her some 'counselling' in March, she had few friends in the class(heard only 3 of them talked to her) so was upset about it. But, she seemed okay after that and talked happily & enjoyed training, they wanted to talk to her last Fri again after the school but she committed suicide the day before, the whole team was very sad any my DD1 thought things could be different if they could talk to her earlier, DD1 cried few times. We told her that there was no sign at all and even her own parents didnt notice it, moreover she is not a trained counsellor, heard she was still doing baking together with friends before the incident.


P/S. My DD1 is in IP and not via DSA so she might not know if it is really hard for DSA students to cope with the studies.

Parents and educators should take full responsibility for CCA DSA kids. It is unfair to for the schoolmates to shoulder the blame. Educators have known about issues with non-academic DSA for decades (before DSA, top schools regularly took in weak students to win sports medals). Putting a sports kid with average academic ability in a top academic school is just like putting a nerd in a sports school. Even if there is no explicit bullying, the child will be very self-conscious and may start magnifying every single slight, imaginary or real.

Teenagers may crack under relentless pressure as they have yet to develop the maturity to handle so much in such a short time. Some will become withdrawn, while some will rebel, and a few will be mentally ill as a result of so much pressure.

This is truly a sad case. We should stop sharing details of her circumstances. Much of which would really be just our own speculations and interpretations of what she went thru. Please spare a thought for her parents.

[Rainbow sky]

Lets change topic. Lets go back to discussing dsa. Although stressful, it is far less severe.


Any new COs?? Any new interviews?

[Harrychew]

E2014:

Harrychew:

[quote=\"charchel\"]This is a very sad case. She is DSA sport student. My DD1 is her senior in CCA and was giving her some 'counselling' in March, she had few friends in the class(heard only 3 of them talked to her) so was upset about it. But, she seemed okay after that and talked happily & enjoyed training, they wanted to talk to her last Fri again after the school but she committed suicide the day before, the whole team was very sad any my DD1 thought things could be different if they could talk to her earlier, DD1 cried few times. We told her that there was no sign at all and even her own parents didnt notice it, moreover she is not a trained counsellor, heard she was still doing baking together with friends before the incident.


P/S. My DD1 is in IP and not via DSA so she might not know if it is really hard for DSA students to cope with the studies.

Parents and educators should take full responsibility for CCA DSA kids. It is unfair to for the schoolmates to shoulder the blame. Educators have known about issues with non-academic DSA for decades (before DSA, top schools regularly took in weak students to win sports medals). Putting a sports kid with average academic ability in a top academic school is just like putting a nerd in a sports school. Even if there is no explicit bullying, the child will be very self-conscious and may start magnifying every single slight, imaginary or real.

Teenagers may crack under relentless pressure as they have yet to develop the maturity to handle so much in such a short time. Some will become withdrawn, while some will rebel, and a few will be mentally ill as a result of so much pressure.

This is truly a sad case. We should stop sharing details of her circumstances. Much of which would really be just our own speculations and interpretations of what she went thru. Please spare a thought for her parents.[/quote]Her parents already shared with journalists that child was bullied in school and upset over her math test result. Now the schoolmates are feeling both guilt ridden and sad. It is also a known fact that many DSA students are facing pressure academically. Not sure if you understand the facts of this matter.