* Eunoia JC (EJC)
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Grandyma\" post_id=\"1900888\" time=\"1551604795\" user_id=\"153793:
Just in case you're wondering why I posted a clarification note, it's because 'very good' was argued upon on Pg 75.
Alright. Thank you you too.
I wasn't referring to thsheng99's 'very well' and value-addedness.
Throwback 2010...
Value-addedness of IPJCs was no longer measured from 2007 cohort onwards.
\"With effect from 2008, Junior Colleges (JCs) that offer the Integrated Programme (IP) are no longer eligible for Value-Added (VA) awards based on their A-level performance (starting from the 2007 Alevel cohort). The affected JCs include Raffles Institution (JC), Hwa Chong Institution (JC), National JC, Victoria JC and Temasek JC. In addition, the JC sections of River Valley High School, Dunman High School and Anglo Chinese School (Independent) are also similarly ineligible for VA awards.\"
http://www.nas.gov.sg/archivesonline/data/pdfdoc/20100926001/press_release_moa_2010.pdf
Fast-forward 2014...
Sustained Achievement Awards and Achievement Awards for Academic Value-addedness were removed by Heng Swee Keat. That means even non-IPJCs were no longer measured in this aspect.
https://www.moe.gov.sg/news/press-releases/moe-removes-secondary-school-banding-and-revamps-school-awards
There's no point in comparing because it's impossible to compare JCs' value-addedness now. IPJCs sometimes take in DSA students who may later attain a T-score that's lower than the school's final COP. How do we measure DSA student's VA vs S1 posted student's VA (COP) vs JAE student's VA (L1R5)?
Value-addedness is all based on the beneficiary's subjective perception.
Another EJ parent (snowyqueen on Pg 73) mentioned a girl scored U in one subject during J1 MYE, but eventually she scored 7 distinctions. So to this girl's parents, EJC arguably did very well and has value-added. -
thsheng99\" post_id=\"1900807\" time=\"1551578996\" user_id=\"37400:
Yes. I remember the sneaking into the gym of EJC incidence. That was by mindays who was eyeing NYJC for his child.obm\" post_id=\"1900781\" time=\"1551540930\" user_id=\"162988:
'Curious' until you had to sneak into other JC's hall on results day to snap pictures of other JC's slides? I cannot believe this. But why? What are you trying to prove? Prove that your granddaughter made the right choice?
. I recall 2 years ago, one fanatic even sneaked into EJC Open House to look at the gym. Goodness, poor Eunoia. So many creepy and curious people stalking your JC.
This Grandyma bears great resemblance to minday. :evil:
Her granddaughter in NYJC ? No wonder she is so upset about EJC's good performance.
woah woah, that is some baseless accusations made there by a nutter. I hope not all EJ's parents are like these :evil:
1. I went to EJC's compound during their open house because I was surveying the environment for my DS. Indeed, have I not seen the facilities with my own eyes, I wouldn't have exposed the lies made in this thread by some irresponsible forumners, or should I say, EJC's parents.
Using the word \"sneak\" shows how unprofessional you are with your language and how inciting you are to the community.
2. My DS went to VJ in the end, not NYJC. You might as well say I was eyeballing EJ since I went for their open house as well.
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mindays\" post_id=\"1900926\" time=\"1551618350\" user_id=\"140018:
Why don't you just say that you were sniffing the competition (EJC) as you have already set your mind to putting your child into NYJC. You never have any intention to send your kid to EJC as you were already singing \"unverified\" half-truths praises about NYJC (which were exposed by many forummers). Luckily your child got better results than expected and got into VJC
woah woah, that is some baseless accusations made there by a nutter. I hope not all EJ's parents are like these :evil:
1. I went to EJC's compound during their open house because I was surveying the environment for my DS. Indeed, have I not seen the facilities with my own eyes, I wouldn't have exposed the lies made in this thread by some irresponsible forumners, or should I say, EJC's parents.
Using the word \"sneak\" shows how unprofessional you are with your language and how inciting you are to the community.
2. My DS went to VJ in the end, not NYJC. You might as well say I was eyeballing EJ since I went for their open house as well.
We do remember, you know
Are you and Grandyma the same person ? -
thsheng99\" post_id=\"1900915\" time=\"1551613753\" user_id=\"37400:
OT: I tend to agree with thsheng99 on this. I suppose this is what thsheng99 meant by value-adding earlier. Which indirectly stepped on Grandyma’s or Minday’ sore point？
If I am not wrong, VJC UAS is around 83.x, EJC UAS is 82.4 - diff is 1.x points
VJC COP was 5 for science, EJC COP was 9 for science - diff is 4 points
Please do your own maths.
VJC COP is very close to RI/HCI (COP of 5?). Don’t you think VJC should pitch itself higher, 敢敢 compare results and compete with RI/HCI, and not seek to compare with EJC (whose COP is 9-10?)? 往后看，很光荣吗？ -
thsheng99\" post_id=\"1900930\" time=\"1551619150\" user_id=\"37400:
Aiyo, Mindays, you shouldn’t have come out and expose yourself. Just use ‘Grandyma’ all the way lah!
Why don't you just say that you were sniffing the competition (EJC) as you have already set your mind to putting your child into NYJC. You never have any intention to send your kid to EJC as you were already singing \"unverified\" half-truths praises about NYJC (which were exposed by many forummers). Luckily your child got better results than expected and got into VJCmindays\" post_id=\"1900926\" time=\"1551618350\" user_id=\"140018:
woah woah, that is some baseless accusations made there by a nutter. I hope not all EJ's parents are like these :evil:
1. I went to EJC's compound during their open house because I was surveying the environment for my DS. Indeed, have I not seen the facilities with my own eyes, I wouldn't have exposed the lies made in this thread by some irresponsible forumners, or should I say, EJC's parents.
Using the word \"sneak\" shows how unprofessional you are with your language and how inciting you are to the community.
2. My DS went to VJ in the end, not NYJC. You might as well say I was eyeballing EJ since I went for their open house as well.
We do remember, you know
Are you and Grandyma the same person ? -
stetan\" post_id=\"1900919\" time=\"1551614430\" user_id=\"3358:
China Studies in Chinese-42.3% A
What is CSC ? Care to share \"CSC\" performance vs all the top JCs?Grandyma\" post_id=\"1900910\" time=\"1551612569\" user_id=\"153793:
Ok, I should have said \" subjects\" like Econs, CSC...
Some JCs dont offer this H2 subject.
I brought up this subject as its below 50% A and not comparing with Full IP schs since its been said its not fair.
You can check 2 other JCs CSC results. -
lee_yl\" post_id=\"1900869\" time=\"1551600310\" user_id=\"17023:
NJC median UAS is 84.4 and someone mentioned earlier in the A level thread, historically, median UAS can be anything 1-3 points higher than mean UAS.Grandyma\" post_id=\"1900859\" time=\"1551598661\" user_id=\"153793:
eg NJC- NJC RP cant be lowered from 84.4 to below 82.4 mah.
So why can’t be lowered from 84.4 to 82.4? Because your mouth said can’t means can’t? Prove it with data.
I do not want to speculate on what is the mean UAS of NJC because I don’t have the exact figure.
https://postimg.cc/F1jBMcdz
Above diagrams show its not true Median can be 1-3 point Higher than Mean.
Can be higher or lower than Median as shown here.
Correct me if I interpret these diagram wrongly. It means if the majority get high score, then the Mean will be closed to Median score or even higher. But it wont be like 3 point lower than Median as what someone said.
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Ah Ma, 42.3% isn't too bad in my opinion. I recall Mindays used to compare NYJC's 2015 A level results with its then rival, RVHS' results. In 2015, RVHS' CSC was 30% As. That should be the nth time RVHS was sitting for H2 CSC after a few years after they'd gone IP.
I guess for EJ's maiden showing, 42.3% is acceptable. DHS is 50% this year, no surprises to me indeed. Truly and fairly, we need to see HCI's CSC results as they have quite a lot of PRC scholars I believe. You may already know the nation's top HCL specialists are absorbed by HCI, just like many top EL specialists (GEP especially) are with RI, possibly resulting in the latter's 9in10 As for E.Lit.
Best to look at the national standard to see if it's a flat bell curve or not. Second, look at the no of candidates taking this paper. In the early years, VJC reported 100% As for CSC, but perhaps there were just a small no. of them taking the tough course. You know, 1 German candidate in a JC can give you an impressive 100% A just like that. Another year, VJC had 58.x% As for CSC, still higher than EJC, but lots of variables are unknown to the public.
https://www.kiasuparents.com/kiasu/forum/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=68179&p=1746859&hilit=china+studies+in+chinese#p1746859
If you click on the above NYJC link, you'd notice Mindays at that time revealed that NYJC's 2015 Mean was 81/90. Was then the curve a positive skew or negative skew for NYJC? -
Ah Ma, it’s Median, not Medium. You need to check with Mindays for the correct spelling.
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obm\" post_id=\"1900941\" time=\"1551659330\" user_id=\"162988:
Thanks lei. Corrected.
Ah Ma, it's Median, not Medium. You need to check with Mindays for the correct spelling.
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