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    2019 PSLE Discussions and Strategies (Children born in 2007)

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    • Imp75I Offline
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      so nobody knows whether A* is 91 or not right? I have a feeling it is according to bell curve. My kids can't possibly get above 91 for both E and CL šŸ˜›

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        Imp75\" post_id=\"1914853\" time=\"1560831557\" user_id=\"2358:

        so nobody knows whether A* is 91 or not right? I have a feeling it is according to bell curve. My kids can't possibly get above 91 for both E and CL šŸ˜›
        It is not a bell curve.
        A* - 91 to 100
        A - 75 to 90
        B - 60 to 74
        C - 50 - 59
        D - 35 - 49
        E - 20 -34
        U - < 20
        Why you got so little faith in your kids? :rotflmao:

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          Imp75\" post_id=\"1914853\" time=\"1560831557\" user_id=\"2358:

          so nobody knows whether A* is 91 or not right? I have a feeling it is according to bell curve. My kids can't possibly get above 91 for both E and CL šŸ˜›
          Imp75

          How far apart was your kids E and CL prelims marks from 91?

          Maybe PSLE marking was more lenient compared to your kids' school?

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          • Imp75I Offline
            Imp75
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            Prelims Low 80s

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              Imp75\" post_id=\"1914868\" time=\"1560837770\" user_id=\"2358:

              Prelims Low 80s
              maybe ur school exams are tougher.......

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                Imp75\" post_id=\"1914853\" time=\"1560831557\" user_id=\"2358:

                so nobody knows whether A* is 91 or not right? I have a feeling it is according to bell curve. My kids can't possibly get above 91 for both E and CL šŸ˜›

                http://hedgehogcomms.blogspot.com/2012/10/piecing-together-psle-puzzle.html

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                  http://hedgehogcomms.blogspot.com/2012/10/piecing-together-psle-puzzle.html

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                    coast\" post_id=\"1914874\" time=\"1560840545\" user_id=\"38933:

                    http://hedgehogcomms.blogspot.com/2012/10/piecing-together-psle-puzzle.html
                    \"There's only one probable explanation for this - that besides moderating the t-score, MOE also moderates the grades. It was like a light bulb went off in my head and set my thinking on a whole new trajectory. In other words, the cut off score for an A* can vary each year, depending on how well the cohort performs. It's just a matter of deciding what percentage of kids get an A*. \"

                    Firstly, I always find it puzzling to hear people talking about 'moderating the t-score'. There's no need to moderate the t-score. The t-score is based upon a normal distribution; it 'moderates' itself (through the standard deviation).

                    In addition, the t-score, in itself, is meaningless. It's simply a number that tells you how far you are away from the mean and which SD you are in based on the cohort of a particular year (hence, comparing t-scores across years is another meaningless exercise).

                    However, a much more interesting question is whether the raw scores are 'moderated' based on an objective set of standards to fit a 100 points scale. In other words, a cut off that changes from year to year. That said, it is still not a bell curve, as grading on a bell means every A* would need to be balanced out with a U or E.

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                      I may be wrong but I do not think MOE has stated explicitly that PSLE A* is equivalent to raw grade 91 & above. In any case, these grades (A*, A, ...) will be replaced by AL bands in another 2 years (current P4 cohort will be using the new AL scoring bands).


                      Interesting to note that AL band's raw mark range is made known. So if there is a killer paper in future, does that mean the %age of students scoring AL1 will be much lesser than other years? In the current system, killer paper or not, I believe the % of A* is roughly the same each year but there is no way for us to know for sure since MOE does not release the % of A*.

                      https://www.moe.gov.sg/microsites/psle/FAQs/scoring-changes.html

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                        coast\" post_id=\"1914893\" time=\"1560852676\" user_id=\"38933:

                        I may be wrong but I do not think MOE has stated explicitly that PSLE A* is equivalent to raw grade 91 & above. In any case, these grades (A*, A, ...) will be replaced by AL bands in another 2 years (current P4 cohort will be using the new AL scoring bands).

                        Interesting to note that AL band's raw mark range is made known. So if there is a killer paper in future, does that mean the %age of students scoring AL1 will be much lesser than other years? In the current system, killer paper or not, I believe the % of A* is roughly the same each year but there is no way for us to know for sure since MOE does not release the % of A*.

                        https://www.moe.gov.sg/microsites/psle/FAQs/scoring-changes.html
                        Killer paper means a lot of students will just bunch up further down the line. There will be more AL2, AL3 or maybe AL4 scorers for that subject. Overall PSLE AL score will be a lot closer and the students' rank choice of schools will matter even more. Given that there are only 25 or 26 (?) possible scores in the first place, doubt there is a lot of difference in the overall scheme of things.

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