Networking Group - JCs General
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On EJC COP, I think a lot also depends on whether MOE allocates/expects EJC to take in more JAE students this year as they are in a new campus. If supply of EJC places increase, then perhaps the decrease in COP may not occur / or be significant. If EJC JAE places remains the same as last year, and if new campus has appeal, then yes, COP may drop.
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doodbug\" post_id=\"1958976\" time=\"1578985404\" user_id=\"13281:
Imo, ejc doesnt seem to increase JAE intake as no news heard that its increasing JAE places.
On EJC COP, I think a lot also depends on whether MOE allocates/expects EJC to take in more JAE students this year as they are in a new campus. If supply of EJC places increase, then perhaps the decrease in COP may not occur / or be significant. If EJC JAE places remains the same as last year, and if new campus has appeal, then yes, COP may drop.
So cop likely 7/8. Wa say! -
floppy\" post_id=\"1958940\" time=\"1578977794\" user_id=\"97579:
While I do agree with floppy that there are 12 choices and you should probably put your dream jc as 1st choice. However, I would like to point out that JAE differs from S1 posting as the students are ranked per nett L1R5, hence there will be a lot more students with the same score. I knew a student who was posted to the 4th choice jc last year after having missed out on the first choice by 1 point despite meeting the COP of the 2nd and 3rd choice jcs.
If you like NYJC, you should just put. Like S1 posting, it’s merit before choice. Who knows, you might just get it. Given that there are 12 choices, you can definitely spare a few slots.Livialook\" post_id=\"1958935\" time=\"1578976817\" user_id=\"182563:
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We initially thought of putting NYJC as the first choice, but cut off point was 6 last year, so chances may be slim.
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gardenia64\" post_id=\"1958972\" time=\"1578984853\" user_id=\"92490:
If the raw score is 9 or 10, the students most likely not choose SA JC as the first choice.
What do you find ridiculous?jtoh\" post_id=\"1958931\" time=\"1578975960\" user_id=\"19505:
[quote=gardenia64 post_id=1958927 time=1578974991 user_id=92490]@ jtoh, It is not retained jc1, it is MI. The RV 4H2 is 10 raw points + each subject grade above B3. 3H2 +1H1. Then if the score is good, encourage u take H3. That is ridiculous.
Raw score 9 plus each subject has B3 above, this two conditions are conflicts. If the students can not give the chance to learn fourth H2, there is less chance to have the chance to qualify for H3.[/quote]You can still take an H3 with 3 H2s. In order to qualify to take an H3, you must be very strong in that H2 subject and prove it by scoring very well in the JC1 exams. H3 subjects are only for the strongest students. Why insist on taking it when your grades aren't strong enough? It's like insisting on taking HCL when you're barely passing CL.
I assume you're saying that to qualify to take 4H2s in RV or SAJC (I don't know which you're referring to bec you're not clear) you have to have an O level score of 9 points or better, and a minimum of B3 or better in each subject? I don't see a conflict in those criteria. Basically they're saying you must score an A1, A2 or B3 in all your subjects and your aggregate is under 9. Fair enough. They want to see that you're doing fairly well across all the subjects and therefore will be able to manage 4H2s.
The way the system works is, the standard is 3H2 for A levels. If you're capable and want to be stretched, you can take 4H2s. If you're even more capable you can take one additional H3. Not everyone who's a top student wants to take an H3. -
anxious.dad\" post_id=\"1958991\" time=\"1578987577\" user_id=\"52054:
While I do agree with floppy that there are 12 choices and you should probably put your dream jc as 1st choice. However, I would like to point out that JAE differs from S1 posting as the students are ranked per nett L1R5, hence there will be a lot more students with the same score. I knew a student who was posted to the 4th choice jc last year after having missed out on the first choice by 1 point despite meeting the COP of the 2nd and 3rd choice jcs.[/quote]The student who was posted to the 4th choice is just suay lor. The student must have been balloted out of the 2nd and 3rd choice.
If you like NYJC, you should just put. Like S1 posting, it’s merit before choice. Who knows, you might just get it. Given that there are 12 choices, you can definitely spare a few slots.floppy\" post_id=\"1958940\" time=\"1578977794\" user_id=\"97579:
[quote=Livialook post_id=1958935 time=1578976817 user_id=182563]...
We initially thought of putting NYJC as the first choice, but cut off point was 6 last year, so chances may be slim.
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Yes, there are a lot of people with the same net score but that shouldn’t matter nor should it stop you from putting down the school as one of your choices. It’s like a lottery draw, you can only win if you have bought a ticket. If the school is not listed, then confirmed / guaranteed / chopped that you wouldn’t get it. If you have put it down, yes, still possible to be so suay and posted to your 4th choice. -
@jtoh, very sad and disappointed. Schools are not encouraged students to take 4H2 at jc level. I knew the SG edcaution system quite well as one of my kid took 4H2 and 1 H3 and GP and PW. SG JC there are no flexiable for the students. And just easy job for the JCs as there is no change between Jc1 to jc2.
I feel that schools should think about the students need. There are students which can not take the load for 4H2, they dropped 1H2 to 1H1. A lots of students failed their subjects in jc1. As such, there is no chance to take H3. If my kid can not take the 4H2 at jc1 in SG, I will send her to oversea study. I think more parents will send their kids to oversea study. -
floppy\" post_id=\"1958993\" time=\"1578988365\" user_id=\"97579:
The student who was posted to the 4th choice is just suay lor. The student must have been balloted out of the 2nd and 3rd choice.
While I do agree with floppy that there are 12 choices and you should probably put your dream jc as 1st choice. However, I would like to point out that JAE differs from S1 posting as the students are ranked per nett L1R5, hence there will be a lot more students with the same score. I knew a student who was posted to the 4th choice jc last year after having missed out on the first choice by 1 point despite meeting the COP of the 2nd and 3rd choice jcs.anxious.dad\" post_id=\"1958991\" time=\"1578987577\" user_id=\"52054:
[quote=floppy post_id=1958940 time=1578977794 user_id=97579]
If you like NYJC, you should just put. Like S1 posting, it’s merit before choice. Who knows, you might just get it. Given that there are 12 choices, you can definitely spare a few slots.
Yes, there are a lot of people with the same net score but that shouldn’t matter nor should it stop you from putting down the school as one of your choices. It’s like a lottery draw, you can only win if you have bought a ticket. If the school is not listed, then confirmed / guaranteed / chopped that you wouldn’t get it. If you have put it down, yes, still possible to be so suay and posted to your 4th choice.[/quote]Yep, the student had no luck. I am just trying to highlight that the sequence of choice will probably affect the chances. If one missed the first choice, will the student be heng enough that the 2nd choice still has vacancies? Guess ballot is for students who have put the school as 1st choice. However, like you say, if you don't try, you guarantee will not get it. Think this will be the same scenario with the AL S1 posting in 2 years time. -
gardenia64\" post_id=\"1959007\" time=\"1578993387\" user_id=\"92490:
What is the students' need which require to take 4H2, other than scholarships? :? Self-actualization? Face? Ego?
@jtoh, very sad and disappointed. Schools are not encouraged students to take 4H2 at jc level. I knew the SG edcaution system quite well as one of my kid took 4H2 and 1 H3 and GP and PW. SG JC there are no flexiable for the students. And just easy job for the JCs as there is no change between Jc1 to jc2.
I feel that schools should think about the students need. There are students which can not take the load for 4H2, they dropped 1H2 to 1H1. A lots of students failed their subjects in jc1. As such, there is no chance to take H3. If my kid can not take the 4H2 at jc1 in SG, I will send her to oversea study. I think more parents will send their kids to oversea study.
Last time my girl say she is the only :siao: one taking 4H2 and 1 H3 amongst her other friends who come from other JCs.
3H2s is really a lot of work already. Even if one is taking another subject at H1 level, it's not like he/she will miss out a lot of content. Can self-read if really interested but most probably the child can't be bothered. And probably the child might not even continue with this H1 subject at uni level. -
Go overseas just to study 4H2?
The Singapore-Cambridge A levels is to my knowledge, the toughest and most content heavy A levels - the A level syllabus for most British A level boards don’t cover as much/deep. Hence, the H2 load is heavy. I actually feel weaker A level students have it tougher now than in our time as they have to do four content A level subjects, albeit one at a H1 level. During my time, you can simply drop one A level subject and read three A level subjects - absolutely no bearing on UAS score for local university entry. -
floppy\" post_id=\"1958912\" time=\"1578971545\" user_id=\"97579:
Thanks floppy for the info.
Applicants are posted to a course based on merit according to their net aggregate scores (taking into account the various bonus points for which applicants are eligible for). Applicants with better net aggregate scores will be considered for admission first, subject to the availability of vacancies in the selected course. If there are no vacancies, the applicants will be considered for their next choice course.
In situations where there are two or more applicants with the same net aggregate score vying for the last place in a course, they will be posted based on their citizenship status in the order of Singapore Citizens, Singapore Permanent Residents and then International Students. If there is still a tie, for example between two Singapore Citizens with the same net aggregate score, the one with the better gross aggregate score will be posted to the course first. If there is still a tie between the two citizens with the same gross aggregate scores, posting to the course will be determined by a computerised ballot where each candidate is given an equal opportunity.
So will e.g. 7-2=5 students be ranked higher than 9-4=5 students in the system? i.e. have priorities.
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