Corona Virus Disease (COVID-19) Updates
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ngl2010\" post_id=\"1963942\" time=\"1582033341\" user_id=\"40978:
I think Singaporeans are generally kind and reasonable. No one will be upset if some frontliners have to wear masks even if they are well.
Then isn’t this contradicting the advice “if well don’t wear masks”? I thought there was a minister who did not wear masks while visiting people in quarantine?.zeit\" post_id=\"1963934\" time=\"1582025253\" user_id=\"171271:
CISCO officers serving Q & SHN orders must wear! Cleaners disinfecting those affected areas must wear too. These are all in line with MOM's and MEWR's WSHC guidelines.
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Some exceptions must be granted to private cleaning companies and auxiliary police.
Frontline medical workers, SCDF/SPF standing outside the chalet room assisting with the swab tests and low-wage cleaners using strong chemical solvents to disinfect toilets in hotel rooms previously occupied by Wuhan guests are in proximity to the germs that could be left on surfaces, or droplets exhaled by PUQs when officers serve them orders at the doorstep.
On 25 Jan, I saw a media photo of a migrant worker cleaning Case 2's hotel without gloves. I was aghast and quickly left a feedback that we need to have strict guidelines to ensure the safety and wellbeing of cleaners. I'm glad the govt swiftly came up with the guidelines.
https://postimg.cc/hQfkpjW1
https://www.nea.gov.sg/our-services/public-cleanliness/environmental-cleaning-guidelines
I also think those civil servants from SCDF standing outside the quarantined person's room should be kitted out. Those standing at the chalet gates do not need to, and they aren't from the tv footages.
https://www.tnp.sg/news/singapore/rare-glimpse-inside-one-government-quarantine-facilities
https://postimg.cc/TKfZsGbm
I only know a Tampines MP delivered some basic necessities to a resident under HQ and she was all masked up with gloves too. Another was Ong Ye Kung discussed earlier. Lastly, Lawrence and Josephine surveying some unoccupied Tuas dorms that have been prepped for those 30k PRC workers. -
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Estéema\" post_id=\"1963959\" time=\"1582044515\" user_id=\"66413:
Cool,
The alcohol based sanitizers can be quite harsh if used frequently. Been hearing everyone mentioning that hands are becoming quite dry.Coolkidsrock2\" post_id=\"1963958\" time=\"1582043537\" user_id=\"48901:
[quote=Estéema post_id=1963952 time=1582042632 user_id=66413]Thank you chenlaoshi for yr ever constructive sharing. Looks like OG’s offer is alcohol based. I need only a small handy bottle on-the-go.
:thankyou:
Do look at the ingredients list and try to look for those that use denatured alcohol or have moisturising ingredients. Makes a difference.
Which brand wld u recommend? Shorten my learning curve.[/quote]For hands, am using MaxShield - tested to European Standards for Chemical Disinfectants and Antiseptics.
Just being abundantly cautiously and it is actually quite hilarious to some people. Even I think am over-killing. -
Esteema, you asked about the 1-year-old “baby”? He has been discharged, according to today’s ST update:
https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/health/coronavirus-4-new-cases-including-3-linked-to-grace-assembly-of-god-church-21-cases?xtor=CS3-18&utm_source=STiPhone&utm_medium=share&utm_term=2020-02-19%207%3A02%3A00
He had only mild symptoms & recovered well.
The number of Covid patients in ICU has dropped down to 4. Praying for them to recover and can be discharged too. -
lee_yl\" post_id=\"1963917\" time=\"1582018155\" user_id=\"17023:
There are 2 interpretations of \"airborne\", and often people talk at cross purposes. The medical people use airborne to mean that the virus can be spread in the air for long periods even when dry. They distinguish this from droplets (also in the air) which are wet and only travel for a metre or so before landing on a surface, where they stay. The winding down of windows in taxis and having open windows in buildings is a way to lower the concentration of any droplets. In the SARS period, China's advice was to 通风, which makes sense to me.
Another thing v funny, if not airborne, then why ask taxi drivers to wind down windows?
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zac's mum\" post_id=\"1963966\" time=\"1582068961\" user_id=\"53606:[quote=\"zac's mum\" post_id=1963966 time=1582068961 user_id=53606]
Thk u. Somehow, they don’t update much at gov.sg
Esteema, you asked about the 1-year-old “baby”? He has been discharged, according to today’s ST update:
https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/health/coronavirus-4-new-cases-including-3-linked-to-grace-assembly-of-god-church-21-cases?xtor=CS3-18&utm_source=STiPhone&utm_medium=share&utm_term=2020-02-19%207%3A02%3A00
He had only mild symptoms & recovered well.
The number of Covid patients in ICU has dropped down to 4. Praying for them to recover and can be discharged too.[/quote] -
Coolkidsrock2\" post_id=\"1963965\" time=\"1582067686\" user_id=\"48901:
For hands, am using MaxShield - tested to European Standards for Chemical Disinfectants and Antiseptics.
Cool,Estéema\" post_id=\"1963959\" time=\"1582044515\" user_id=\"66413:
[quote=Coolkidsrock2 post_id=1963958 time=1582043537 user_id=48901]
The alcohol based sanitizers can be quite harsh if used frequently. Been hearing everyone mentioning that hands are becoming quite dry.
Do look at the ingredients list and try to look for those that use denatured alcohol or have moisturising ingredients. Makes a difference.
Which brand wld u recommend? Shorten my learning curve.
Just being abundantly cautiously and it is actually quite hilarious to some people. Even I think am over-killing.[/quote]So far, I hvnt pay particular attention to use of sanitizer till early this week.
Cases in China seems to abate. Hoping this will blow over by end Feb & back to DORSCON Yellow by next week
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zac's mum\" post_id=\"1963859\" time=\"1581999556\" user_id=\"53606:[quote=\"zac's mum\" post_id=1963859 time=1581999556 user_id=53606]
Precisely.
Why can’t we do a survey of those 77 cases that came down with the virus? If any of them wore masks all the time (and I’m sure many of those evacuated on the 2 Scoot flights did - Tao Li’s posted pic even showed herself wearing rubber gloves on the flight) - how come still can catch the virus?
That would straightway give us the answer to: does wearing masks prevent a healthy person from catching the virus?[/quote]
Tell Singaporeans why we need to use masks judiciously amid the global shortage. Most People will understand. A little honesty goes a long way.
Don't make a fool of everyone by saying masks are useless when used by healthy people. -
lee_yl\" post_id=\"1963917\" time=\"1582018155\" user_id=\"17023:
yeah, I saw the video as well. It didn't make sense to me when usually personal protection gear must be discarded or disinfected once out of the \"red\" zone. In this case, the red zone should be crowded train/bus? I have a ziplock bag too - to carry until I get to a crowded location and then to put the mask into for throwing away.
I don’t know leh...ammonite\" post_id=\"1963873\" time=\"1582003463\" user_id=\"50141:
Face masks work as a layer of protection for droplets, not for air transmission. That is another can of worms that no one wants to dip into right now.
Reusing the 3 ply one - if using it to protect yourself from others, it is the outer surface that is supposed to catch the contaminants; won't putting it back into your ziplock bag defeats the purpose? Reusing surgical mask idea I learnt it from channel 8 interview. One expert says, in MRT, wear a mask, once you step out of the carriage, take it off and place it in a ziplock bag. Can use few days.
Another thing v funny, if not airborne, then why ask taxi drivers to wind down windows?
I suppose if one has a UV sanitiser box, maybe can sanitise with UV and reuse?
But I concluded that this doctor was wearing face mask just for show. :siam: If he was with an undiagnosed Cov19 patient, and reuse his mask the next day, won't his chances of getting it be high, given how long it can stay alive? And his way of disposing it, wrapping it inwards, means he would touch all the infected outer surface... :scratchhead:
Windows - I remember during sars they implemented that as well. But you're right, if not airborne why wind down? Just to make people feel better? Dry droplets? Control the airflow within the taxi so that the air move from his direction towards the back of the taxi? Then what about the customer if the driver is infected? Customer must open the window even wider to try to counteract the downwind from driver?
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slmkhoo\" post_id=\"1963972\" time=\"1582072649\" user_id=\"28674:
They are still using a lot of recommendations from SARS period. I would be interested to know how much exposure it takes to be infected since it is more transmissible than SARS - if lowering concentration makes it negligible, or spread the risk wider. A face mask or light scarf will be able to catch a certain amount of droplets in the first place.
There are 2 interpretations of \"airborne\", and often people talk at cross purposes. The medical people use airborne to mean that the virus can be spread in the air for long periods even when dry. They distinguish this from droplets (also in the air) which are wet and only travel for a metre or so before landing on a surface, where they stay. The winding down of windows in taxis and having open windows in buildings is a way to lower the concentration of any droplets. In the SARS period, China's advice was to 通风, which makes sense to me.lee_yl\" post_id=\"1963917\" time=\"1582018155\" user_id=\"17023:
Another thing v funny, if not airborne, then why ask taxi drivers to wind down windows?
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