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    • EstéemaE Offline
      Estéema
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      lee_yl\" post_id=\"1970771\" time=\"1586535845\" user_id=\"17023:

      Estéema\" post_id=\"1970768\" time=\"1586535098\" user_id=\"66413:

      Hundreds of boxes of masks fr Indonesia, China & Vietnam sold at 2 shops near fruit stall of Clementi West St 2 market. Yday DH bought for MIL.

      https://postimg.cc/cvN3T0BV

      That’s the thing I am puzzled. Even a fruit stall in Clementi can get hold of hundreds of boxes of surgical masks from Indonesia, China and Vietnam, why Watson and Guardian Pharmacies forever “stock not avail”? And since surgical masks are available, why bother to only give us a symbolic no brand, 2ply cotton mask?

      Nope. These are not sold at fruit stall but pop-up stalls near the fruit stall.

      These pop-up stalls has been selling boxes of masks since late March, together with 2nd hand handphones. One stall sells children surgical masks too. Not sure if our supplies will continue but these masks come at a premium price tag. Doubt it’s wise to continue using on daily basis as it’ll not be sustainable as it adds to any family a heavy burden (with additional need for WiFi for WFH & HBL; increase electricity to run lighting & fan; besides getting laptops & desktops).

      Countries like Taiwan, Vietnamese and even M’sia hv their own manufacturing but our atas economy do not run them & even if we do, we’ll probably hv more foreign workers on masks machines. My family tries to use the reusable ones, leaving surgical masks for MIL’s exclusive use since she belongs to more vulnerable Grp.

      Hence, not sure if it drains national reserves meant for frontline staff. :xedfingers:

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        Cloud Cloud
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        Estéema\" post_id=\"1970777\" time=\"1586546385\" user_id=\"66413:

        lee_yl\" post_id=\"1970771\" time=\"1586535845\" user_id=\"17023:

        [quote=Estéema post_id=1970768 time=1586535098 user_id=66413]Hundreds of boxes of masks fr Indonesia, China & Vietnam sold at 2 shops near fruit stall of Clementi West St 2 market. Yday DH bought for MIL.

        https://postimg.cc/cvN3T0BV

        That’s the thing I am puzzled. Even a fruit stall in Clementi can get hold of hundreds of boxes of surgical masks from Indonesia, China and Vietnam, why Watson and Guardian Pharmacies forever “stock not avail”? And since surgical masks are available, why bother to only give us a symbolic no brand, 2ply cotton mask?

        Nope. These are not sold at fruit stall but pop-up stalls near the fruit stall.

        These pop-up stalls has been selling boxes of masks since late March, together with 2nd hand handphones. One stall sells children surgical masks too. Not sure if our supplies will continue but these masks come at a premium price tag. Doubt it’s wise to continue using on daily basis as it’ll not be sustainable as it adds to any family a heavy burden (with additional need for WiFi for WFH & HBL; increase electricity to run lighting & fan; besides getting laptops & desktops).

        Countries like Taiwan, Vietnamese and even M’sia hv their own manufacturing but our atas economy do not run them & even if we do, we’ll probably hv more foreign workers on masks machines. My family tries to use the reusable ones, leaving surgical masks for MIL’s exclusive use since she belongs to more vulnerable Grp.

        Hence, not sure if it drains national reserves meant for frontline staff. :xedfingers:[/quote]Mask are definitely more easily available now. About $32 per 50 pieces. Even online prices have gone down from the $60 to $30 per box. But made in China. And yes, are 3 ply surgical masks. My friend say she only buy from Watson’s or Guardians. But these 2 shops still no supply. Not sure how long these pandemic will last, so bought a few boxes. Lesson learnt, buy in case out of stock again...

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        • sharonkhooS Offline
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          MrsKiasu\" post_id=\"1970730\" time=\"1586522395\" user_id=\"43981:

          I cant see the main street from my place and places I could see from my place are really quiet .. so I can only rely on news to see pictures of people having family outings, jogging etc.. woah seriously this is what period now still cannot guai guai just stay at home really need a total lock down meh..sigh..
          Exercising outdoors near your home is allowed, as long as safe distancing is observed. 4 weeks without going outdoors for exercise, especially if you are used to a certain level of activity, and if your home is crowded, is not very healthy. And going out in a group comprising only those in the same household is allowed, again, as long as they stay a safe distance from others. Some will break the rules, of course, and I hope social pressure and the enforcement officers will suppress such selfish behaviour.

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          • sharonkhooS Offline
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            ngl2010\" post_id=\"1970747\" time=\"1586527639\" user_id=\"40978:

            Thank you for your suggestion. But the problem is that there are many such old people around that are unaware that they cannot even meet their friends. How to educate these people? Maybe need to be repeated over and over again in TV and radio?
            PM Lee's speech yesterday had a section addressed to the elderly, unfortunately, it seems he made the speech only in English? I hope he will make that section of the message in Mandarin and Malay too, or that someone will dub it? And perhaps also in a few dialects. I don't think the English message will do much to communicate to the elderly who are breaking the rules.

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            • EstéemaE Offline
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              slmkhoo\" post_id=\"1970786\" time=\"1586567902\" user_id=\"28674:

              ngl2010\" post_id=\"1970747\" time=\"1586527639\" user_id=\"40978:

              Thank you for your suggestion. But the problem is that there are many such old people around that are unaware that they cannot even meet their friends. How to educate these people? Maybe need to be repeated over and over again in TV and radio?

              PM Lee's speech yesterday had a section addressed to the elderly, unfortunately, it seems he made the speech only in English? I hope he will make that section of the message in Mandarin and Malay too, or that someone will dub it? And perhaps also in a few dialects. I don't think the English message will do much to communicate to the elderly who are breaking the rules.

              Was thinking same too! Pity it was only in English & those elderly need to hear it in their own tongue to be effective!

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                There was a mandarin version.

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                • MrsKiasuM Offline
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                  slmkhoo\" post_id=\"1970785\" time=\"1586567583\" user_id=\"28674:

                  MrsKiasu\" post_id=\"1970730\" time=\"1586522395\" user_id=\"43981:

                  I cant see the main street from my place and places I could see from my place are really quiet .. so I can only rely on news to see pictures of people having family outings, jogging etc.. woah seriously this is what period now still cannot guai guai just stay at home really need a total lock down meh..sigh..

                  Exercising outdoors near your home is allowed, as long as safe distancing is observed. 4 weeks without going outdoors for exercise, especially if you are used to a certain level of activity, and if your home is crowded, is not very healthy. And going out in a group comprising only those in the same household is allowed, again, as long as they stay a safe distance from others. Some will break the rules, of course, and I hope social pressure and the enforcement officers will suppress such selfish behaviour.

                  that's the thing, G says can exercise.. it could be a gray area I find.. I also read ppl bring kids to queue at fastfood outlets/bubble tea shop..yup agree not easy for many people to suddenly find themselves can only have such small area per person..but if many dont follow, I worry possibility of extending and/or further tightening and that will be more painful.

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                  • EstéemaE Offline
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                    pandan\" post_id=\"1970790\" time=\"1586570008\" user_id=\"5122:

                    There was a mandarin version.
                    Oh, guess we missed the M version.

                    Thank you for clarifying :thankyou:

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                      Cloud Cloud\" post_id=\"1970779\" time=\"1586550363\" user_id=\"160688:[quote=\"Cloud Cloud\" post_id=1970779 time=1586550363 user_id=160688]

                      Mask are definitely more easily available now. About $32 per 50 pieces. Even online prices have gone down from the $60 to $30 per box. But made in China. And yes, are 3 ply surgical masks. My friend say she only buy from Watson’s or Guardians. But these 2 shops still no supply. Not sure how long these pandemic will last, so bought a few boxes. Lesson learnt, buy in case out of stock again...[/quote]
                      Of cos lah, those from Guardians or Watson’s pharmacies are deemed more reliable than those sold at pop-up stalls. It is about quality assurance! Peace of mind.

                      In January I only had a few pieces of surgical masks, now I have a few boxes in my store. I would think that our National stockpile must have also increased by a few folds by now, as we all agree that surgical masks are now more easily available.

                      The situation now is quite different from that in Jan, China now massively producing surgical masks (and exporting them) and we have more asymptotic cases in the community. So Govt should change its strategy, Govt could progressively release some surgical masks through the pharmacies BUT restrict buying to like 10pcs per family per week.

                      It is ironical that we can’t get surgical masks from pharmacies but need to buy from the “black market” JKJK

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                      • lee_ylL Offline
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                        Estéema\" post_id=\"1970777\" time=\"1586546385\" user_id=\"66413:

                        lee_yl\" post_id=\"1970771\" time=\"1586535845\" user_id=\"17023:

                        [quote=Estéema post_id=1970768 time=1586535098 user_id=66413]Hundreds of boxes of masks fr Indonesia, China & Vietnam sold at 2 shops near fruit stall of Clementi West St 2 market. Yday DH bought for MIL.

                        https://postimg.cc/cvN3T0BV

                        That’s the thing I am puzzled. Even a fruit stall in Clementi can get hold of hundreds of boxes of surgical masks from Indonesia, China and Vietnam, why Watson and Guardian Pharmacies forever “stock not avail”? And since surgical masks are available, why bother to only give us a symbolic no brand, 2ply cotton mask?

                        Nope. These are not sold at fruit stall but pop-up stalls near the fruit stall.

                        These pop-up stalls has been selling boxes of masks since late March, together with 2nd hand handphones. One stall sells children surgical masks too. Not sure if our supplies will continue but these masks come at a premium price tag. Doubt it’s wise to continue using on daily basis as it’ll not be sustainable as it adds to any family a heavy burden (with additional need for WiFi for WFH & HBL; increase electricity to run lighting & fan; besides getting laptops & desktops).

                        Countries like Taiwan, Vietnamese and even M’sia hv their own manufacturing but our atas economy do not run them & even if we do, we’ll probably hv more foreign workers on masks machines. My family tries to use the reusable ones, leaving surgical masks for MIL’s exclusive use since she belongs to more vulnerable Grp.

                        Hence, not sure if it drains national reserves meant for frontline staff. :xedfingers:[/quote]That is the irony. Parallel importers, pop-up stalls, Value shop etc can get hold of surgical masks and sell them, while Singapore pharmacies don’t have any? This result in Singaporeans paying through their noses to lay their hands on surgical masks. Whereas govt intervention would have helped like limit restrict EACH family can buy 10pcs of surgical masks per week.

                        One piece of surgical mask, we can reuse it for 2-3 days, I keep mine inside a ziplock bag.

                        Btw, one reusable cotton mask is also not sufficient for those working at essential services. No need to wash? Can’t dry by next day.

                        The effective lifespan of the Govt reusable masks was also NOT made known. Are they good for 10 washes? 15th washes or ???

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