Application for NUS/NTU Medicine 2020/2021

[rjksj]

Desmond Tang\" post_id=\"1980538\" time=\"1591962145\" user_id=\"185268:[quote=\"Desmond Tang\" post_id=1980538 time=1591962145 user_id=185268]

susme\" post_id=\"1980533\" time=\"1591960084\" user_id=\"56673:

Hi! Susme,
Your son has accepted NUS Medicine right? It's strange that NTU still keeping the record as a waiting list and giving offering since the joint admission platform supposed to nullify it from the NTU Medicine waitlist.

NTU waitlist is a separate exercise from the Joint Admission Platform. NUS and NTU Medicine do not communicate so they will still offer waitlisted applicants regardless of whether they have accepted another course, including Medicine.

[Desmond Tang]

rjksj\" post_id=\"1980542\" time=\"1591963509\" user_id=\"186146:

Desmond Tang\" post_id=\"1980538\" time=\"1591962145\" user_id=\"185268:[quote=\"Desmond Tang\" post_id=1980538 time=1591962145 user_id=185268]

Just email offer from NTU medicine, will reject it

Hi! Susme,
Your son has accepted NUS Medicine right? It's strange that NTU still keeping the record as a waiting list and giving offering since the joint admission platform supposed to nullify it from the NTU Medicine waitlist.

NTU waitlist is a separate exercise from the Joint Admission Platform. NUS and NTU Medicine do not communicate so they will still offer waitlisted applicants regardless of whether they have accepted another course, including Medicine.[/quote]That's an inefficient system in today's technology standard. Even if NTU offered the course, the applicant is no longer allowed to reject the acceptance at NUS as the window date is over. What a waste of precious time and the redundancy of resources.

[Ngfamrox]

Desmond Tang\" post_id=\"1980545\" time=\"1591965562\" user_id=\"185268:[quote=\"Desmond Tang\" post_id=1980545 time=1591965562 user_id=185268]

rjksj\" post_id=\"1980542\" time=\"1591963509\" user_id=\"186146:

[quote=\"Desmond Tang\" post_id=1980538 time=1591962145 user_id=185268]

Hi! Susme,
Your son has accepted NUS Medicine right? It's strange that NTU still keeping the record as a waiting list and giving offering since the joint admission platform supposed to nullify it from the NTU Medicine waitlist.

NTU waitlist is a separate exercise from the Joint Admission Platform. NUS and NTU Medicine do not communicate so they will still offer waitlisted applicants regardless of whether they have accepted another course, including Medicine.[/quote]

That's an inefficient system in today's technology standard. Even if NTU offered the course, the applicant is no longer allowed to reject the acceptance at NUS as the window date is over. What a waste of precious time and the redundancy of resources.[/quote]
Hi, there is nothing wrong with the system.

Say Student A wants to study at NTU Medicine. He has gotten Confirmed Offer from NUS, and Waitlist at NTU. By 24 May, he can only choose to accept NUS on Joint Admissions Portal, but bobian cannot choose NTU.

After 24 May, if he gets the NTU confirmed offer later on, he has secured the position by his own merit (thankfully because other people rejected / pulled out, but he did it fair and square). He has the right to now choose NTU over NUS now - he just needs to inform NUS and NTU about his updated decision.

There is a misconception here that accepting NUS / NTU means you reject the other. Let me explain.
If Student A get NUS Medicine Offer and NTU Biological Science Offer (example), on JAP when he accept NUS, he is rejecting NTU Biological Science (not NTU itself). If NTU now offers him an alternative course of Medicine due to waitlist, he can choose to go NTU but like what i said, just communicate this to the universities.

Not inefficient. Student A rightfully secured both placings in both Med Schools - has the right to choose which one to go to. It is not his fault he got it after 24 May

[rjksj]

Yes, the students are still allowed to accept the offer from NTU waitlist even if they have accepted NUS Medicine. It is the same for all other students on NTU/NUS waitlist who have accepted other courses before 24th May, whether it be Science or Medicine or Pharmacy or any other course… If they get an offer later on, they can revoke their place in the course they accepted, to take up their offered place in Medicine.


So it is not really inefficient. Hope this clarifies, Desmond.

[kibblesmoke]

are they emailing one by one as slots are made available? or a few people at once?

[rjksj]

Hi kibblesmoke,


Seems like they sent out to a batch of people all around the same time. Around 7pm today.

[Monsta]

So far doesn’t seem like a huge batch though

[Desmond Tang]

rjksj\" post_id=\"1980549\" time=\"1591968509\" user_id=\"186146:

Yes, the students are still allowed to accept the offer from NTU waitlist even if they have accepted NUS Medicine. It is the same for all other students on NTU/NUS waitlist who have accepted other courses before 24th May, whether it be Science or Medicine or Pharmacy or any other course... If they get an offer later on, they can revoke their place in the course they accepted, to take up their offered place in Medicine.

So it is not really inefficient. Hope this clarifies, Desmond.

If this happens then those students still in waitlist are at the mercy of those inconsiderate hoppers. Those that complained that NUS Medicine building is old and not up to trend will now get the chance to hop over. This way it will cause disarray to the proportion of waitlist offer. Especially those on LKCSoM waitlist will get lesser chance now. Not really a fair game with this kind of system.

[PaulFamily]

Desmond Tang\" post_id=\"1980557\" time=\"1591975841\" user_id=\"185268:[quote=\"Desmond Tang\" post_id=1980557 time=1591975841 user_id=185268]

rjksj\" post_id=\"1980549\" time=\"1591968509\" user_id=\"186146:

If this happens then those students still in waitlist are at the mercy of those inconsiderate hoppers. Those that complained that NUS Medicine building is old and not up to trend will now get the chance to hop over. This way it will cause disarray to the proportion of waitlist offer. Especially those on LKCSoM waitlist will get lesser chance now. Not really a fair game with this kind of system.

Well, the system is fair game, honestly. If you're deemed as good enough by the schools, you would secure a spot naturally, there's no reasons why students shouldn't be given a choice of school if they can secure a place based on their own merit. If your so called fairness is based on offering as making the waitlist move as far as possible I don't think that's the point of the system. It's the same with anything else in life. If you've made a choice and you're suddenly offered a better option, would you not take that up? Inevitably, factors like distance, cost, school culture do play a part in making a decision in choice of schools and will lead to different schooling experiences. One can't just look at the end point of obtaining an MBBS in isolation because there are real differences between the schools like cost and location etc.

[peterfamily]

2020 medicine subject world Ranking by QS :



NUS : 21
NTU : 144

NUS university medicine subject rankings is much better than NTU。Majority likely want to choose YLL.

LKC waitlists seem have good chance to move more