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    * Eunoia JC (EJC)

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    • lee_ylL Offline
      lee_yl
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      Imp75\" post_id=\"2006198\" time=\"1606790791\" user_id=\"2358:

      zeemimi\" post_id=\"2006194\" time=\"1606789656\" user_id=\"15896:

      there is some truth to that.
      my good friend's DC is JAE in EJC. this problem is so pronounced that during PTC, the teacher had to bring up to my friend that her DC has been ostracized by IP students and that the problem is quite prevalent in the school. 🤷

      I find it strange that instead of solving the problem and keeping it in check, the tchr feedback this to the parent? What did the tchr expect the parent to do? Tsfr sch?

      Now that you’ve mentioned it, it is indeed strange.
      Why was it not the parent who complained that their DC was moody/depressed etc because he/she was ostracized by IP students, but it was the teacher who had to bring up to the parent that their child was ostracized by IP students?

      Could it be the student couldn’t cope with the transition after O to JC and was feeling rather stressed up / moody and the teacher just causally mentioned maybe due to being ostracized by classmates. Just like some kids addicted to playing HP till fail, doesn’t mean the whole school is like that.

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      • lee_ylL Offline
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        Nurulla\" post_id=\"2006186\" time=\"1606788520\" user_id=\"188615:

        lee_yl\" post_id=\"2006106\" time=\"1606751789\" user_id=\"17023:

        [quote=Nurulla post_id=2006091 time=1606747669 user_id=188615]

        Few reasons that caused Ejc cop to shot up as I said. Not the only reason.
        Read carefully, Madam.
        New campus+big cohort of 3 IP sec

        Yr child from Scgs IP, soon to be Ejcian.
        Go find out adverse comments on Ejc JAE why they feel 2nd class treated inside Ejc.

        Attend OHouse wont reflect the gap feel by JAE.
        1 classic eg leadership roles mostly taken by IPs.

        Your logic baffles me. COP shot up because bulk of places taken up by 3 IP sec and new campus.
        That’s why I asked you, during the initial years when the COP was 11 & 10, have the 3 IP schools not joined EJC?

        Whenever I drive along CTE, I find the ITE AMK campus gorgeous! So when are you sending your children there?

        Did you pick up one adverse comment from another forum and you chose to parrot it as if it’s the absolute truth or do you hope that when you repeat a falsehood often enough, it will become the truth? Yet, the COP seems to be improving every year. You means these JAE students who choose to join EJC didn’t bother to find out “the truth”?

        Yes, 3 ip jcs aldry inside initial yr.
        Kudos to these ip sec, if not Ejc cop would had been >11.
        Now, majority places still taken up by 3 ips, partial reason cop lowered is also due to this, we cant deny this fact.

        If ur child qualifys ITE, will u consider AMK pretty campus ITE? U ans yrself.
        Dont u know what school canteen food selling is also a factor student choose a school.
        New campus the pulling factor there too.

        Ejc 2nd class Jae treatment is well known by now.
        If ur deny it, then bo bian.
        U need to be in Ejc, then to experience the truth.
        Classic eg- different initial orientation for ip kids[/quote]Yes, kudos to these IP sec students who made up the bulk of the JC intake. If not, NJC, VJC etc, the COP would also be >11

        You are just trying very hard to wriggle your way out of a logical faux pas you committed. After all, EJC is an IP JC from day one and while this fact didn’t change, its COP has improved steadily and you can’t attribute it to it being an IP JC, which obviously it’s not a valid reason based on logical reasoning.

        Since you were the one who said EJC campus was new thus attractive, I cited ITE AMK campus as another gorgeous campus which your kids can consider.

        EJC treats JAE students as 2nd class? DH’s colleague whose daughter is from JAE said she enjoyed her days in EJC very much, the teachers are nice and caring. Perhaps that is your own opinion, and you just want to amplify it out of sour grapes!
        You are here to put down EJC in a misguided effort to promote NYJC again under another yet another new username?

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        • Z Offline
          zeemimi
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          lee_yl\" post_id=\"2006206\" time=\"1606792062\" user_id=\"17023:

          Imp75\" post_id=\"2006198\" time=\"1606790791\" user_id=\"2358:

          [quote=zeemimi post_id=2006194 time=1606789656 user_id=15896]there is some truth to that.
          my good friend's DC is JAE in EJC. this problem is so pronounced that during PTC, the teacher had to bring up to my friend that her DC has been ostracized by IP students and that the problem is quite prevalent in the school. 🤷

          I find it strange that instead of solving the problem and keeping it in check, the tchr feedback this to the parent? What did the tchr expect the parent to do? Tsfr sch?

          Now that you’ve mentioned it, it is indeed strange.
          Why was it not the parent who complained that their DC was moody/depressed etc because he/she was ostracized by IP students, but it was the teacher who had to bring up to the parent that their child was ostracized by IP students?

          Could it be the student couldn’t cope with the transition after O to JC and was feeling rather stressed up / moody and the teacher just causally mentioned maybe due to being ostracized by classmates. Just like some kids addicted to playing HP till fail, doesn’t mean the whole school is like that.[/quote]No where did i mention the parent did not feedback about the child. why nit pick?
          as mentioned there are other factors that can affect a child.
          But i've stated clearly this 2nd hand treatment of JAE is a prevalent problem which the EJC teacher admits is prevalent and pronounced in the school.

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          • Imp75I Offline
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            Just wondering if the students are all mixed in the class?

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            • lee_ylL Offline
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              zeemimi\" post_id=\"2006210\" time=\"1606792426\" user_id=\"15896:

              No where did i mention the parent did not feedback about the child. why nit pick?
              as mentioned there are other factors that can affect a child.
              But i've stated clearly this 2nd hand treatment of JAE is a prevalent problem which the EJC teacher admits is prevalent and pronounced in the school.
              I happened to meet a friend whose DD is in EJC yr 1, and the girl was from St Nic IP. I only asked the mum how her girl finds EJC. The mum replied good. Girl is happy and her teachers are very very good!! I replied maybe MOE promised before, to send experience & solid teachers to EJC when they set up the new IPJC.

              Overall I hear more positive feedback than negative. If you tell me a school is perfect in everything, I won’t believe. Every school sure to have its pros and cons. Have you heard of children from top schools committed suicide before? No school is perfect.

              Another mum told me her DD had problem coping in MGS IB. Her classmates (from MGS pri) laughed at her for her ‘weird’ spoken English. The yr1 girl was very hurt. This type of thing can happen in any school.

              Fast forward, I last heard the girl observed how her friends speak and tried to improve herself and now the girl is very confident and articulate! From a negative situation, the girl turns it round to get a positive outcome

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              • floppyF Offline
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                Imp75\" post_id=\"2006212\" time=\"1606793257\" user_id=\"2358:

                Just wondering if the students are all mixed in the class?
                Very cute question leh!

                AFAIK no. There’s the SCGS class, the CHS class, the SNGS class and Others. If you want to join the other class, you have to renounce your past ties and swear an oath of allegiance to the new fraternity.

                P/S: To add, the class President can you kick by tweet and appeal is going to be denied.

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                • SG_KP1S Offline
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                  I’ve been following this from afar but interested due to EJC ties to SCGS/SNGS IP. I thought the IP intake was ~450 or so (not sure on CHS but though SNGS was 6 IP classes with SCGS at 4 IP class so ~300 total between these two). EJC’s press releases say 529 Eunoians took A-Level in 2018 and 610 Eunoians took A-Level in 2019. This would imply ~150 or so JAE intake students (610 - 450), with the number possibly higher if size has kept increasing. So at least ~25% of students coming in via JAE.


                  I thought this was just as good as DHS/RVHS, as I had them at ~300 Sec 1-4 plus ~100 JAE (i.e. same 25%). One advantage for EJC is also that the IP kids come from three different schools, although maybe they are working on stuff together in the Sec 1-4 years. DHS/RVHS also started with what seemed like "high" JAE COPs in their first year (9 science, 10 arts) but moved up a point each in the second year. So perhaps when these IP JCs are new option people are hesitant?

                  I am not familiar with other JCs intake enough to know which ones have other IP/affiliated students moving over in large numbers. Regardless, I’ve always assumed that there are cliques everywhere, and as long as the EJC feeder core remains strong (understand people can change from PSLE to O/A level but as rough measure of intelligence the talent is there) that A-Level results should follow.

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                  • M Offline
                    mommyNg
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                    I just want to clarify that for NJC, contrary to many other IPJCs, JAE students actually make up the bulk of the JC intake. About 2/3 vs 1/3: of the roughly 600 JC 1 students in NJC, only 200 of them are from the IP program. The rest come from JAE. This is just a statement, please take it at face value.

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                    • MerlionInGermanyM Offline
                      MerlionInGermany
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                      SG_KP1\" post_id=\"2006216\" time=\"1606794283\" user_id=\"188234:

                      I've been following this from afar but interested due to EJC ties to SCGS/SNGS IP. I thought the IP intake was ~450 or so (not sure on CHS but though SNGS was 6 IP classes with SCGS at 4 IP class so ~300 total between these two). EJC's press releases say 529 Eunoians took A-Level in 2018 and 610 Eunoians took A-Level in 2019. This would imply ~150 or so JAE intake students (610 - 450), with the number possibly higher if size has kept increasing. So at least ~25% of students coming in via JAE.

                      I thought this was just as good as DHS/RVHS, as I had them at ~300 Sec 1-4 plus ~100 JAE (i.e. same 25%). One advantage for EJC is also that the IP kids come from three different schools, although maybe they are working on stuff together in the Sec 1-4 years. DHS/RVHS also started with what seemed like \"high\" JAE COPs in their first year (9 science, 10 arts) but moved up a point each in the second year. So perhaps when these IP JCs are new option people are hesitant?

                      I am not familiar with other JCs intake enough to know which ones have other IP/affiliated students moving over in large numbers. Regardless, I've always assumed that there are cliques everywhere, and as long as the EJC feeder core remains strong (understand people can change from PSLE to O/A level but as rough measure of intelligence the talent is there) that A-Level results should follow.
                      5 IP classes in SNGS. I dont think there was ever a year with 6 classes.
                      The 3 schools dont really work on stuff together, like maybe just attending some symposiums together, I would imagine it is something like the mg-ac symposium and the MEP symposium.

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                      • MerlionInGermanyM Offline
                        MerlionInGermany
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                        mommyNg\" post_id=\"2006218\" time=\"1606795063\" user_id=\"2838:

                        I just want to clarify that for NJC, contrary to many other IPJCs, JAE students actually make up the bulk of the JC intake. About 2/3 vs 1/3: of the roughly 600 JC 1 students in NJC, only 200 of them are from the IP program. The rest come from JAE. This is just a statement, please take it at face value.
                        TJC also, jae > ip.

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