Corona Virus Disease (COVID-19) Updates

[sharonkhoo]

lee_yl\" post_id=\"2013684\" time=\"1612010040\" user_id=\"17023:

All the old folks from the various old folk homes have taken the covid vaccination? So far all ok?

For old folks to take the vaccination, I find it very tricky. On the one hand, old folks should go for the jab, but on the other hand, if there’s any serious complication arising from the vaccination, it can be fatal.

My grandmother is already in her 90s. Most of my family members think she should not go for the jab. I guess we all know that visitors may also bring the virus to her even if old folks stay at home but I do not wish to keep pushing my 90+ yr granny to jab, else should anything happen I would be the 千古罪人.

To be fair, not just old folks are excusing themselves from the vaccination. I heard even young people (e.g. some in the uniformed groups/hospitals), and those trying to get pregnant etc. also avoid taking the vaccine.

Each family/person has to decide for themselves. My concern is whether they really understand the risks, and whether they are basing the decision on correct information.

I think part of the problem is that many think that existing vaccinations (DTP, MMR, flu, etc) are 100% effective as no doctor or nurse ever tells a patient being jabbed: \"remember, this only confers 80% (or whatever) protection, so you may still catch it\". So when they hear that the COVID vaccines confer 95% protection, they say: \"there's still a chance that I will catch it, so I might as well not take it\". I looked up the stats - for Singapore, about 15% of those over 60 who caught COVID ended up in ICU, and about 8% died. 95% protection looks quite good in comparison. Yes, it's true that a serious complication from the vaccine could be fatal, but so could catching COVID. The question is which is more probable. Personally, I find the statistics fairly compelling, and I wonder why these are not made clearer (I had to dig a bit to find the stats).

Those pregnant and trying to be have been advised to avoid the jab for the moment, as there is little data for this group as yet. Other young people - well, if they are not in groups that have been advised to avoid for now, then they have to consider that they may have to live with the guilt if they catch and spread the virus to loved ones or those in their care.

[Coolkidsrock2]

I think a lot of people are spooked by the headlines about the deaths and complications arising from the vaccinations and decided they will not do it.


As this is a personal decision, most people will not comment or discuss it further.

Have friends overseas who are recovered patients and based on the complications they experienced, am inclined to opt for it - even if it does not guarantee that I will not be infected, hopefully it will be less severe in the unfortunate event.

[starlight1968sg]

I will take the jab when offered too.

[lee_yl]

slmkhoo\" post_id=\"2013710\" time=\"1612056620\" user_id=\"28674:

lee_yl\" post_id=\"2013684\" time=\"1612010040\" user_id=\"17023:

All the old folks from the various old folk homes have taken the covid vaccination? So far all ok?

For old folks to take the vaccination, I find it very tricky. On the one hand, old folks should go for the jab, but on the other hand, if there’s any serious complication arising from the vaccination, it can be fatal.

My grandmother is already in her 90s. Most of my family members think she should not go for the jab. I guess we all know that visitors may also bring the virus to her even if old folks stay at home but I do not wish to keep pushing my 90+ yr granny to jab, else should anything happen I would be the 千古罪人.

To be fair, not just old folks are excusing themselves from the vaccination. I heard even young people (e.g. some in the uniformed groups/hospitals), and those trying to get pregnant etc. also avoid taking the vaccine.

Each family/person has to decide for themselves. My concern is whether they really understand the risks, and whether they are basing the decision on correct information.

I think part of the problem is that many think that existing vaccinations (DTP, MMR, flu, etc) are 100% effective as no doctor or nurse ever tells a patient being jabbed: \"remember, this only confers 80% (or whatever) protection, so you may still catch it\". So when they hear that the COVID vaccines confer 95% protection, they say: \"there's still a chance that I will catch it, so I might as well not take it\". I looked up the stats - for Singapore, about 15% of those over 60 who caught COVID ended up in ICU, and about 8% died. 95% protection looks quite good in comparison. Yes, it's true that a serious complication from the vaccine could be fatal, but so could catching COVID. The question is which is more probable. Personally, I find the statistics fairly compelling, and I wonder why these are not made clearer (I had to dig a bit to find the stats).

Those pregnant and trying to be have been advised to avoid the jab for the moment, as there is little data for this group as yet. Other young people - well, if they are not in groups that have been advised to avoid for now, then they have to consider that they may have to live with the guilt if they catch and spread the virus to loved ones or those in their care.

I think there is a misconception here. For those who have taken the covid vaccine before, they may still catch and spread the virus to loved ones or those under their care. It’s just that vaccination will make a person feel less sickly if really they were to contract covid. And in SG context, vast majority of those who contracted covid is asymptomatic anyway. And for those who contracted Covid, we are lucky that our chances of full recovery are very high as compared to other countries.

Recently, there is this US Congressman who kena Covid after his 2 doses of Pfizer vaccine.

Why our govt does not make Covid vaccination mandatory? Because there are not enough data points to be absolutely sure, unlike the other more established vaccines.

And those statistics you provided are based on earlier cases whereby we were told “no sick no need to wear mask” and returnees from overseas especially UK, were not quarantined but did SHN at home. I believe things have changed now that we are all masked up, very few community cases, zero case in ICU and very likely, with better medication care thus our hospitals can handle covid more effectively than 1year ago.

So for my 90+ grandma, I leave it for my parents and uncles / aunties to decide

[lee_yl]

Coolkidsrock2\" post_id=\"2013714\" time=\"1612062503\" user_id=\"48901:

I think a lot of people are spooked by the headlines about the deaths and complications arising from the vaccinations and decided they will not do it.

As this is a personal decision, most people will not comment or discuss it further.

Have friends overseas who are recovered patients and based on the complications they experienced, am inclined to opt for it - even if it does not guarantee that I will not be infected, hopefully it will be less severe in the unfortunate event.

I kena H1N1 some time ago. If you asked me serious or not, I find it serious cos I had a very high fever, bodyaches and I couldn’t move my body at all. I thought I had dengue. I felt sick for 1 whole week even after taking the antiviral medication but I subsequently recovered. Given that most cases with Covid are asymtomatic in SG, maybe if I kena covid (touch wood!) may not be as serious as H1N1, haha.

DH will have his 2nd jab before CNY and so far from what I see after his 1st Jab, no fever, nothing. DH suggests I take too but if his mum was still around, he would opt out for her due to her age and health condition.

[Coolkidsrock2]

An overseas front-liner friend who eventually recovered was prepared for life-time dialysis due to damage to kidneys. He is a long-time sufferer so still experiencing other losses.


My mum is opting out due to health reasons. Given the majority cases are asymptomatic, she will need to be very disciplined with her social interactions.

[zac's mum]

My mum’s doctor told her she cannot get the vaccination becos as a cancer patient she has a weakened immune system. Not sure if MIL is interested to take (she is not yet 70 years old).


DH getting his tomorrow with some colleagues. Heard there’s a very long Q like several hours.

I’m not sure if I can take. Saw a news report that the 3 people in SG who had anaphylactic reactions to the vaccine had history of either allergic rhinitis or shellfish allergy.

[starlight1968sg]

For those who will be receiving their 1st dose, would there be a letter of notification or just ¨company sent¨ ?

[zac's mum]

starlight1968sg\" post_id=\"2013750\" time=\"1612092923\" user_id=\"14025:

For those who will be receiving their 1st dose, would there be a letter of notification or just ¨company sent¨ ?

Currently it’s only internal notification from companies in certain industries.

Not sure how they will notify the elderly folks age >70 when it’s their turn to get vaccinated.

[starlight1968sg]

Tks zacś mum.

My father of age 80 has yet to receive any letter.