Raffles Girls' Primary
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Throwing in my 1c worth…
This generation’s PSLE is no longer the same “easy” PSLE that our generation took. During our time, to score well u just need to know the straightforward facts. Mug well and u will do well.
This generation’s PSLE contains many higher order thinking questions. Our 12-year-old selves would not have been able to handle those on our own. It’s also an unknown factor whether MOE schools and teachers are able to effectively teach such H.O.T. skills to our kids in a large classroom environment. Maybe RGPS has a good track record, I do not know. You’d have to ask the P5 and P6 parents in the school to find out - how’s their girls’ PSLE prep coming along?? Confident to score well with just the school’s help?? Or do parents have to cough up extra $$ and time to help as well?
I’m going into the PSLE prep years with my son now…I can tell u that while I’m stressed (son has affiliated school waiting for him) my friends are even more stressed - they have boys who still have not yet matured, still don’t like to study or are too playful…scoring around AL14 now. With no affiliated school, prospects are not good. Then there is the girl, has been studious and very diligent & obedient since P1-P4, entered top class & doing HCL, but now suddenly into rebellious & emotional puberty phase in P5, shouts back at parents & refuses to comply with her usual studying hard routine…parents at wits’ end with how her PSLE would turn out now. It’s still a big qn mark if she would be able to enter one of the top girls’ secondary schools. Previously given her obedient personality & good academic record they’d thought it was a shoo-in.
The safety net of having an affiliated school to fall back on is quite a nice thing to have IMO. -
I think the percentage of RGPS P6 cohort scoring 250 and above for PSLE is around 45 to 50%. With today’s AL system, 250 T-scores will be around AL10.
While some parents are happy to get their children into secondary school through affiliation, there are also parents who choose to get out because they have the impression that affiliation will lower their academic standard. e.g. with the new AL17 COP, affiliation schools will now have to accept students with equivalent t-score as low as 190.
The privilege of affiliation school is a double edges sword, on one hand it is less stressful, but on the other hand, it can also give students the false impression that they can continue the stress free attitude into secondary schools. -
This affiliation vs non-affiliation dilemma…
makes me think of the countless number of parents who r doing everything within their means to get a place into nanyang pri (the boys there have no affiliated Sec sch), the Hokkien clan schools, Henry park, rosyth… just to name a few.
Volunteering, rental, GRC, shifting house…
Anything they can do for a balloting chance to get into any of these schools, all of them without affiliated Sec schools. -
Yes im one of them lol...and knew by heart from day one that there is no affiliation and i will still stick to it, if possible.
If RGPS is your option from the beginning, the debate of affiliation and non-affiliation should not be in the first place. Unless RGPS is your plan B/C then you may have be a bit disappointment with non-affiliated feature if your DD happens to be accepted. Yes definitely, if you are able to go for the affiliation is a very very big plus point but if not then we choose the left over school that we desired. No right no wrong in choosing school, everyone has different priorities/circumstances/driven factors in life, just go with what you think suits/fits you and your child the most!Mwongyx\" post_id=\"2021999\" time=\"1619802663\" user_id=\"164571:
This affiliation vs non-affiliation dilemma..
makes me think of the countless number of parents who r doing everything within their means to get a place into nanyang pri (the boys there have no affiliated Sec sch), the Hokkien clan schools, Henry park, rosyth.... just to name a few.
Volunteering, rental, GRC, shifting house..
Anything they can do for a balloting chance to get into any of these schools, all of them without affiliated Sec schools. -
Aztac\" post_id=\"2021869\" time=\"1619736820\" user_id=\"132972:
I remember seeing your post just awhile back, about you not getting any acceptance confirmation for your RGPS PV application.
Therein lies the problem with us parents (me included).
We want our kids to go to an elite or good school to have a headstart and \"hope\" they score well to go into an elite or good secondary school. However when it comes to considering affiliation and cut-off points, our inner most fears rear their heads. \"Am I right to send my child to this elite/good school?\" \"What if he/she doesn't do well?\" \"My neighbour/fren/I heard from who and who has a friend who's kid went to ABC elite pri sch w/o affiliation but didn't do well enough and not got into a neighbourhood sec sch\" etc etc
So in the end, why are you all here in RGPS forum page?
If your decision is to send your girl to RGPS (w/o affiliation), then its a decision you make and to live with it as nobody know, barring the situation that your kid is a genius, whether she will do well in PSLE 6 years later.
If we still have nagging doubts re affiliation vs non affiliation then I think deep inside you know RGPS is not the choice for you. Because if you didn't really care about affiliation, your decision to send your girl to RGPS would be \"hope she can do well but if not then if she has done her best I am happy\".
My wife and I thought hard and deep about this and because we had nagging doubts deep inside on affiliation vs non affiliation, we decided in the end to register her into an affiliated pri sch, and forget about RGPS. Otherwise to keep up with the Joneses (so to speak), we will get her into numerous tuition and enrichment classes to stay within \"elite\" status. That would be very sad. So in the affiliated pri sch, there is a safety net if PSLE is messed up in some way.
In the end, we parents need to remember that kids should not be living their parents' dream.
Maybe your decision change is also influenced by the uncertainty of securing a place at RGPS now without a chance at the safer phase2B?
Many of my friends have much smaller risk appetite registering this year, maybe frightened by last year’s scary balloting.
There may be a chance this year’s balloting won’t be as scary: many people choosing to play safe and go with safer options, nearer home in 2C, no need to go elite schools etc.. instead. -
zac's mum\" post_id=\"2021871\" time=\"1619740881\" user_id=\"53606:[quote=\"zac's mum\" post_id=2021871 time=1619740881 user_id=53606]
Throwing in my 1c worth...
This generation’s PSLE is no longer the same “easy” PSLE that our generation took. During our time, to score well u just need to know the straightforward facts. Mug well and u will do well.
This generation’s PSLE contains many higher order thinking questions. Our 12-year-old selves would not have been able to handle those on our own. It’s also an unknown factor whether MOE schools and teachers are able to effectively teach such H.O.T. skills to our kids in a large classroom environment. Maybe RGPS has a good track record, I do not know. You’d have to ask the P5 and P6 parents in the school to find out - how’s their girls’ PSLE prep coming along?? Confident to score well with just the school’s help?? Or do parents have to cough up extra $$ and time to help as well?
I’m going into the PSLE prep years with my son now...I can tell u that while I’m stressed (son has affiliated school waiting for him) my friends are even more stressed - they have boys who still have not yet matured, still don’t like to study or are too playful...scoring around AL14 now. With no affiliated school, prospects are not good. Then there is the girl, has been studious and very diligent & obedient since P1-P4, entered top class & doing HCL, but now suddenly into rebellious & emotional puberty phase in P5, shouts back at parents & refuses to comply with her usual studying hard routine...parents at wits’ end with how her PSLE would turn out now. It’s still a big qn mark if she would be able to enter one of the top girls’ secondary schools. Previously given her obedient personality & good academic record they’d thought it was a shoo-in.
The safety net of having an affiliated school to fall back on is quite a nice thing to have IMO.[/quote]
Having a affiliated Sec sch as a safety net is indeed a nice thing to have, but I’ll say it only benefits the ones at the lower end of the spectrum.
A motivated driven kid may not need that safety net, if u do well u can go to ur affiliated school, u can also go to any good schools who take in your grades. Example of SCGS girl who goes to NYGH.
Do the drive n rigor from parents n Teachers from non- affiliated schools provide that drive to excel? If the whole class is motivated, perhaps, it’ll rub off on your own child ? Hence the consistent good PSLE results from these popular non-affiliated schools ?
Of course, there may be kids who crumble under stress from these schools ( kids crumble or the parent crumble only they know
)
If you look at MGS thread, some parents voice out concern that their kids / nieces struggling to meet the affiliated COP of 220. Is it Due to the can-fall-back on the safety net anyway, meet bare minimum will do attitude?. Do the Teachers also have less stress to put as much rigor? Like what another user mention, there’s a risk of carrying this stress free false impression into Sec school.
Similarly, if the child rly screw up the PSLE, but “luckily” landed in safety net, does it rly make sense to put this child, now in the last few class of the Sec sch, back into the exact same school system, that he crumble under for the past 6 years?
I think affiliated vs non- affiliated (the popular ones, we not talking about normal neighbourhood ones right?) both have their pros- all depends on the kid himself.
If your child can’t read at K2, complain tired with just 1 enrichment a week currently, then I say better just put in an affiliated pri sch. If not go into academically driven school, lag behind, parents sweat, transfer the stress to the little one- all unhappy.
If you believe your child will shine in a motivated n paced environment, then try any school that’s known to have some rigor, it really doesn’t matter where he or she is. They will rub off on one another and emerge strong either way
So really only you know your child best.
No hate for either type of school pls, it really all depends on which environment your child suits. -
Wwmm123\" post_id=\"2022026\" time=\"1619837251\" user_id=\"192610:
I remember seeing your post just awhile back, about you not getting any acceptance confirmation for your RGPS PV application.Aztac\" post_id=\"2021869\" time=\"1619736820\" user_id=\"132972:
Therein lies the problem with us parents (me included).
We want our kids to go to an elite or good school to have a headstart and \"hope\" they score well to go into an elite or good secondary school. However when it comes to considering affiliation and cut-off points, our inner most fears rear their heads. \"Am I right to send my child to this elite/good school?\" \"What if he/she doesn't do well?\" \"My neighbour/fren/I heard from who and who has a friend who's kid went to ABC elite pri sch w/o affiliation but didn't do well enough and not got into a neighbourhood sec sch\" etc etc
So in the end, why are you all here in RGPS forum page?
If your decision is to send your girl to RGPS (w/o affiliation), then its a decision you make and to live with it as nobody know, barring the situation that your kid is a genius, whether she will do well in PSLE 6 years later.
If we still have nagging doubts re affiliation vs non affiliation then I think deep inside you know RGPS is not the choice for you. Because if you didn't really care about affiliation, your decision to send your girl to RGPS would be \"hope she can do well but if not then if she has done her best I am happy\".
My wife and I thought hard and deep about this and because we had nagging doubts deep inside on affiliation vs non affiliation, we decided in the end to register her into an affiliated pri sch, and forget about RGPS. Otherwise to keep up with the Joneses (so to speak), we will get her into numerous tuition and enrichment classes to stay within \"elite\" status. That would be very sad. So in the affiliated pri sch, there is a safety net if PSLE is messed up in some way.
In the end, we parents need to remember that kids should not be living their parents' dream.
Maybe your decision change is also influenced by the uncertainty of securing a place at RGPS now without a chance at the safer phase2B?
Many of my friends have much smaller risk appetite registering this year, maybe frightened by last year’s scary balloting.
There may be a chance this year’s balloting won’t be as scary: many people choosing to play safe and go with safer options, nearer home in 2C, no need to go elite schools etc.. instead.
Yes that's right. But until recently like dec 2020 we were still going for RGPS and looking at renting a place within 1km n then ballot if necessary. All this in the name of going to an elite school. Then my wife and I thought hard about whether should go ahead or consider other schools after our relatives' and friends' kids PSLE results came out. Opened our eyes a lot on affiliation vs non affiliation.
Then we looked at our sleeping daughter and decided that all along our choice was just because we yearned that brand name whether affiliation or not. So we sort of \"woke up\" and decided to choose another school which probably suits her pace of learning. But of cos at the back of our minds still like the Raffles brand haha -
Hi, does anyone knows the application breakdown by distance for Phase 2C last year?
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CALYNSEA\" post_id=\"2024585\" time=\"1621396110\" user_id=\"181903:
Sometimes we can get the stats from School if walk-in, but last year all online applications, so quite hard to have that.
Hi, does anyone knows the application breakdown by distance for Phase 2C last year? -
CALYNSEA\" post_id=\"2024585\" time=\"1621396110\" user_id=\"181903:
Someone called RGPS last year and they said they were not allowed to disclose the numbers.
Hi, does anyone knows the application breakdown by distance for Phase 2C last year?
https://www.kiasuparents.com/kiasu/forum/viewtopic.php?f=38&t=4408&start=6630
https://www.kiasuparents.com/kiasu/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4408&start=6600
For 2019:-
Singapore Citizen
No balloting for 1-2km. 55 applicants in >2km category will ballot for 6 places, so the ~1 in 9 odds info above is accurate.
https://www.kiasuparents.com/kiasu/forum/viewtopic.php?f=38&t=4408&start=6470
https://www.kiasuparents.com/kiasu/forum/viewtopic.php?t=137&start=1650
All the best.
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