Corona Virus Disease (COVID-19) Updates
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phtthp\" post_id=\"2025930\" time=\"1622590376\" user_id=\"35251:
Whose bright idea is it? Just go through the full Quarantine of 14 days lor, after all the employer paid for it already, so why release these maids from quarantine halfway through?
https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/employers-family-of-12-put-under-quarantine-after-maid-tests-positive-for-covid-19-despite?fbclid=IwAR0dG8CpVUo-fo1JvjnXgKGEgM85tSOQHU97DeL54S6qBNR3sJvGuzjle9k
So this maid is a chronic shedder? What exactly is a “chronic shedder”? I remembered reading about the TTSH nurse (fully vaccinated) being labeled as a “chronic shedder”. Is there a quantitative definition of a “chronic shedder”?
I can understand the employer’s anxiety because when my new helper joined my household in Feb, after the 14 days of quarantine, I hoped her quarantine was 21 days to be absolutely sure. My helper went to the maids lodging for few days before we were free to pick her up from there, and I worried that she might contract covid from other live-in maids there. -
slmkhoo\" post_id=\"2025948\" time=\"1622599361\" user_id=\"28674:
:goodpost:
Unless you and they suffer from severe allergies, the medical advice is that there isn't a problem. My husband and I both have eczema and allergic rhinitis, but didn't have more than the normal side effects from the jab.MrsKiasu\" post_id=\"2025943\" time=\"1622596442\" user_id=\"43981:
I tried to weigh the risk. They dont go out except to school. I take extra precautions whenever I go out get necessities. To me the risk should be lower right but my worry is what if? Just need that 1 chance..my dh been persuading me to go for it coz he heard how this can change a family. I worry my own allergy but I later firmed with the decision for my own jab coz with my own jab it may help with my decision for my dd.. they seems to have my pattern of allergy.
The other consideration I have is that do we want our teens to live like this for a couple more years? Only going to school, limiting social interactions, avoiding certain activities, staying away from elderly relatives, etc.? What will that do to their physical and social development? If vaccination will give them more freedom to do things, I'm all for it.
My same sentiments. -
slmkhoo\" post_id=\"2025948\" time=\"1622599361\" user_id=\"28674:
I guess will be as (new) normal ba after that probably not much diff to us. Like go tuition if need to etc. Coz the younger one no vaccination (yet).
Unless you and they suffer from severe allergies, the medical advice is that there isn't a problem. My husband and I both have eczema and allergic rhinitis, but didn't have more than the normal side effects from the jab.MrsKiasu\" post_id=\"2025943\" time=\"1622596442\" user_id=\"43981:
I tried to weigh the risk. They dont go out except to school. I take extra precautions whenever I go out get necessities. To me the risk should be lower right but my worry is what if? Just need that 1 chance..my dh been persuading me to go for it coz he heard how this can change a family. I worry my own allergy but I later firmed with the decision for my own jab coz with my own jab it may help with my decision for my dd.. they seems to have my pattern of allergy.
The other consideration I have is that do we want our teens to live like this for a couple more years? Only going to school, limiting social interactions, avoiding certain activities, staying away from elderly relatives, etc.? What will that do to their physical and social development? If vaccination will give them more freedom to do things, I'm all for it. -
slmkhoo\" post_id=\"2025948\" time=\"1622599361\" user_id=\"28674:
Do vaccinated teens have more freedom? They still need to wear a mask when outside. May be, they could travel easier when the borders are reopened. Vaccinated doesn’t mean won’t contract Covid as the recent cases show.
The other consideration I have is that do we want our teens to live like this for a couple more years?
Only going to school, limiting social interactions, avoiding certain activities, staying away from elderly relatives, etc.? What will that do to their physical and social development? If vaccination will give them more freedom to do things, I'm all for it.
For me, I am still not vaccinated and yet I can still enjoy going out shopping, cinemas or walk in the parks
Maybe don’t need a couple of years, who knows within this year, effective anti-viral medication may be available to treat COVID-19. Then our COVID-19 strategy will be Test, Trace and Treat, and no longer Test, Trace and Vaccinate.
Israel has started to research Covid anti-viral medication. Maybe Singapore should go into research on treatment instead of still trying to work on vaccine development. -
Although the 2 Chinese vaccines have been listed on WHO's EUL, and some of our residents might be paying to take either of them, due to their own allergies, do note that currently only 4 vaccines are approved by the European Medicines Agencies (EMA):
Comirnaty (which is BioNTech's new product name, regardless if it's made by Pfizer or Shanghai Fosun)
Moderna
Vaxzevria (previously known as AstraZeneca)
Janssen (Which is Johnson & Johnson)
https://www.ema.europa.eu/en/human-regulatory/overview/public-health-threats/coronavirus-disease-covid-19/treatments-vaccines/covid-19-vaccines
Not sure why SinoPharm's not updated as yet.
The \"EU digital Covid certificate\" comes into use on 1 July 2021.
EU members will be asked to allow entry to travellers who have received the required doses of one of the four vaccines that have been approved by the EMA. Member states can also choose, but are not required, to approve entry for those who received jabs from a vaccine approved in some member states, such as Russia's Sputnik V, which is used by EU member Hungary. They can also choose to recognise other vaccines approved by the WHO, such as China's Sinopharm.
I don't expect anyone to travel to the EU so soon. But it's still good to make an informed decision as there'll be annual boosters shots in years to come. Thankfully, our govt has authorised the top 2 approved vaccines so that our future EU overseas scholars, their accompanying parents and business travellers need not worry that much. -
lee_yl\" post_id=\"2025962\" time=\"1622608906\" user_id=\"17023:
I don't know what will happen in future, but my guess is that Singapore will go the way of other countries, where restrictions and requirements will be more stringent for the unvaccinated. It could be that certain activities or sports will require the unvaccinated to be tested more frequently, or even excluded. I don't really regard mask-wearing as too bad a restriction - I think we are already quite used to it. But maybe some restaurants may require proof of vaccination, or certain workplaces may do so. That could impact movements, social activities, internships, etc. Perhaps the more introvert won't mind, but I know that my extrovert daughter will grab the first opportunity to be vaccinated. Of course, she is already an adult and doesn't need my permission. But if she were under 18, I would encourage her to get the vaccination as I know that the reduced social and other activities are too stifling for her. Given the current risk profile of the vaccination, I think that risk is a fair trade-off for increased freedom. Who knows how long it will take to develop antivirals that work well? The teenage years are precious.
Do vaccinated teens have more freedom? They still need to wear a mask when outside. May be, they could travel easier when the borders are reopened. Vaccinated doesn’t mean won’t contract Covid as the recent cases show.slmkhoo\" post_id=\"2025948\" time=\"1622599361\" user_id=\"28674:
The other consideration I have is that do we want our teens to live like this for a couple more years?
Only going to school, limiting social interactions, avoiding certain activities, staying away from elderly relatives, etc.? What will that do to their physical and social development? If vaccination will give them more freedom to do things, I'm all for it.
For me, I am still not vaccinated and yet I can still enjoy going out shopping, cinemas or walk in the parks
Maybe don’t need a couple of years, who knows within this year, effective anti-viral medication may be available to treat COVID-19. Then our COVID-19 strategy will be Test, Trace and Treat, and no longer Test, Trace and Vaccinate.
Israel has started to research Covid anti-viral medication. Maybe Singapore should go into research on treatment instead of still trying to work on vaccine development. -
slmkhoo\" post_id=\"2025965\" time=\"1622610724\" user_id=\"28674:
Oh, I thought our MOE minister CCS just mentioned that there will be no biased treatment whether a student is vaccinated vs not?
I don't know what will happen in future, but my guess is that Singapore will go the way of other countries, where restrictions and requirements will be more stringent for the unvaccinated. It could be that certain activities or sports will require the unvaccinated to be tested more frequently, or even excluded. I don't really regard mask-wearing as too bad a restriction - I think we are already quite used to it. But maybe some restaurants may require proof of vaccination, or certain workplaces may do so. That could impact movements, social activities, internships, etc. Perhaps the more introvert won't mind, but I know that my extrovert daughter will grab the first opportunity to be vaccinated. Of course, she is already an adult and doesn't need my permission. But if she were under 18, I would encourage her to get the vaccination as I know that the reduced social and other activities are too stifling for her. Given the current risk profile of the vaccination, I think that risk is a fair trade-off for increased freedom. Who knows how long it will take to develop antivirals that work well? The teenage years are precious.lee_yl\" post_id=\"2025962\" time=\"1622608906\" user_id=\"17023:
Do vaccinated teens have more freedom? They still need to wear a mask when outside. May be, they could travel easier when the borders are reopened. Vaccinated doesn’t mean won’t contract Covid as the recent cases show.
For me, I am still not vaccinated and yet I can still enjoy going out shopping, cinemas or walk in the parks
Maybe don’t need a couple of years, who knows within this year, effective anti-viral medication may be available to treat COVID-19. Then our COVID-19 strategy will be Test, Trace and Treat, and no longer Test, Trace and Vaccinate.
Israel has started to research Covid anti-viral medication. Maybe Singapore should go into research on treatment instead of still trying to work on vaccine development.
Vaccinated or not, if govt says max 5 per table for dining in, max is still 5 pax right?
I am not very sure if govt will start to restrict those not vaccinated from certain sports or dining-in etc. Because many folks or even teens out there who choose not to vaccinate could be due to being medically unfit or suffer from severe allergies thus can’t take the vaccine? Else will look like govt is punishing these group of people.
With new technology, If it’s just a 20secs breath test that we have to take before joining say, a wedding banquet etc, then I find it’s ok. -
For me, my concern is more on the potential damage to the organs after covid recovery if so unluckygot it… My gals are like me can don’t go out de so restriction on movement if any not so much of concern to us.
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Yes I also understand vacc and non vacc kids will be together, no bias.
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lee_yl\" post_id=\"2025913\" time=\"1622560753\" user_id=\"17023:
I was sitting on the fence but having done the research, I believe there is a real risk of long covid (just google that), especially now that there are research saying that children and youth has a higher percentage of getting long covid. The damage from long covid is much more established / real than whatever potential damage mRNA vaccine can cause. I have also read that mRNA has been in development for decades, and the expedited emergency approval was unprecedented because of the expedition of mostly paperwork and bureaucracy. And that for any previous vaccines, most side effects would show at most a few months after the vaccine.
We have received the SMS to register my kid but we are still undecided. I am less worried about the immediate side effects or adverse reactions but more concerned about the long term uncertainties surrounding the new mRNA vaccine, what will it do to the human bodies in the future.emoh\" post_id=\"2025900\" time=\"1622551954\" user_id=\"10618:
Yes, children may get infected but the symptoms are generally mild and they recover fast. This is true not just in Singapore but also worldwide. So the benefits of vaccinating children are not significant whereas the risks involved are unknown and unquantifiable.
From a mathematical perspective, it is a matter of probability that something dire may just happen. Data from different vaccination programs has shown that for every 100,000 shots received there are a number of severe adverse events. Plus studies have shown that teens may experience heart inflammation, depression etc. after the vaccination.
For parents who choose to vaccinate your children, it was stated in the papers that those “medically eligible” children are encouraged to go for vaccination but what exactly is ”medically eligible”? Are those with childhood asthma deemed eligible? How about those with Type 1 diabetes? Obese kids who may have high blood pressure? Not to mention people with hidden underlying conditions like those who only get to know that they have a hole in their heart when they go for their NS pre-enlistment checkups.
Ultimately, vaccination is a personal choice and at the moment, I am inclined to sit on the fence. I think it is a matter of time before an effective anti-viral medication is available to cure COVID-19, just like how Tamiful is effective against H1N1.
Unless one can be 100% sure that we won't get covid (which is impossible), also considering that our own PM Lee has he himself already used the word endemic, probably means the govt will open up borders and just carry on with the new normal of having community cases. Yikes. Means if we chose not to get vaccinated, we are really on our own where many surrounding us might have been vaccinated, have less symptoms even if they have covid, and will pass the covid to the non-vaccinated among us more easily.
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