Corona Virus Disease (COVID-19) Updates
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starlight1968sg\" post_id=\"2030218\" time=\"1626055222\" user_id=\"14025:
An elderly taxi driver didn’t want his jab coz he thinks it’s painful. I’ve to share my family’s experiences & encourage him to do fast esp so when he’s in the frontline. I asked him if he thinks he’ll die fr jab or fr the covid? Let him ponder, hopefully gets on the right path to the Vaccination Center.
exactly and hence I dont understand why some seniors refuse to take the jab.slmkhoo\" post_id=\"2030216\" time=\"1626054238\" user_id=\"28674:
Actually, the elderly, of all people, shouldn't care about long-term effects for themselves, for rather obvious reasons.
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pirate\" post_id=\"2030236\" time=\"1626061779\" user_id=\"66252:
Without a population who have taken Sinovac to compare with, how to have data? I guess everyone at Mindsville who was vaccinated took Pfizer anyway, and probably most at BM/Redhill. And it's known that no vaccine protects completely again infection. It's the rate of infection that should be compared, but it will be difficult as the base environment will differ from place to place and time to time. I'm fairly sure that such data is being collected, but where to find it, and how comparable it is, I don't know.
Better some protection than none is just speculation by commentators and based on selective interpretation of data.
Do we have data how many US and/or UK fully inoculated medical personnel have been infected? Especially in May and June 2021? Why are we happy with the absence of data from these countries?
I am still waiting for MOH to explain how come 90% of MINDSville cases were fully inoculated with mRNA vaccine. Or why 40% of Bukit Merah/Redhill cases were. I am not holding my breath. I expect it to be swept under the carpet. Now we won't even know whether any of the new cases are medical personnel or fully inoculated because our gov has decided to be less transparent. -
slmkhoo\" post_id=\"2026540\" time=\"1623215197\" user_id=\"28674:
:thankyou:
I can't answer your questions, but based on general rules, surely those who are resident in the home are allowed to remove their masks, at least within their room or a restricted area that is considered their \"home\". I expect that staff and those who are only there for part of each day would be require to mask..zeit\" post_id=\"2026537\" time=\"1623213947\" user_id=\"171271:
I understand some of the special needs patients had a meltdown during testing. Since special needs residents have special needs, did the staff at MINDSville therefore allow the 91% fully vaccinated residents to take off their masks inside the building?
From the website and FB photos, I see that it's a https://www.minds.org.sg/for-adults/residential-services/. Therefore, I'm pretty sure at some point during meal-times, shower, sleeping, classroom activity/interactive time, the residents had to remove their masks?
And because the media had reported that special needs people respond better in familiar environments, I cannot help but suspect the staff/caregivers were not masked up or togged up in PPE over the past 4 months either, so as not to frighten their residents who may not be able to recognise them visually?
Did the job placement & support program stop during this period? They have to mix with the community for training.
If they weren't donning masks, of course staff, befrienders and family visitors who live outside in the community may risk bringing in the virus. If they were, what level of filtration do their masks provide? Was there social distancing inside like there is in normal schools, and if not, is it cos social distancing with their caregivers might affect their mood?
I was waiting for this ''mask-off'' confirmation that you'd provided. Yes, it is what Kenneth Mak'd been saying, that most transmissions took place within one's household as family members removed their masks at home.
I see MINDSville cluster as a 'microcosm' of our local community at that point in time, i.e. 2-4 June, when just about 20% or so of our population had been fully vaccinated. Perhaps its infection rate when magnified several times might be mirrored in our larger community back then?
Likewise for the Bukit Merah cluster which had about 51% (unvaccinated) vs 49% (fully vaccinated + 1st dose) being infected. That was around mid- to end-Jun when our country's fully vaccinated population was over 25%-30%? I also referred to my relative's friend's household as a 'microcosm' sampling of the community at large at that point in time. As I'd shared many weeks ago, three out of six household members were infected (50-50 probability). The household profile is as follows:
1 fully vaccinated (index) + 2 unvaccinated infected, versus 1 fully vaccinated + 2 unvaccinated NOT infected.
Based on my above non-scientific observations, I imagine if everyone was to remove his mask in public areas come year-end (when 75% are fully vaccinated), there will be a short-term surge of cases & some deaths but it won't be as severe as it had been in Jun.
Boris Johnson has preempted the Brits that they should expect to see 50,000 cases at least and hundreds of deaths when UK opens up with a 'big bang' on the 19th. We will watch the UK closely, as their elderly vaccination rate is very high, but below 50yo is rather low. These were the youths who'd removed their masks to watch football.
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US and the UK published their deaths data regularly. They don't hide any figures, unlike China and to some extent SG.
https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#cases_deathsper100klast7days
https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/bulletins/deathsregisteredweeklyinenglandandwalesprovisional/weekending25june2021
If you don't read any deaths involving HCWs, maybe the nos were too small to be deemed newsworthy by their media which boast themselves as one of the freest in the world? There was one Jan report of a Florida doctor but that was it. US and UK media are famously politically-aligned, so you should expect to see some left-wing media (in UK's case) and right-wing (in US' case) reporting all the bad news of HCWs getting infected/dying due to vaccination to discredit Johnson's govt and Biden's administration respectively. But did you?
On the other hand, a socialist country like China doesn't even share their data of HCWs dying from their 9 EUA experimental vaccines (Phase 2-3 trials) within their own sovereign territory. Only 9 or so residents died from taking Sinovac in HK I recall. When they published The Lancet report for Sinovac's performance in Turkey, they only showed 18-59yos infection/hospitalisation rates. What about the >60? Everything is in a black hole. Where is China's CDC website of adverse reactions to their 9 experimental vaccines? How many more Li Wenliangs are there in China?
US and UK's labs and pharma manufacturers all all GMP facilities. So sticky the FDA was with mfg processes that they ordered Emergent to destroy millions of defective J&J vaccines.
US and UK hospitals are also well-equipped with PPE and have stringent safety protocols. It's not likely that their vaccinated HCWs will die from taking any of those mRNA vaccines. If there were, western investigative journalists will be the first to seize the scoop and rip them apart.
As for the general public's cases, you'll have to pore thru the VAERS portal. The Americans never hide their injury / adverse cases, unlike China which only asks the state mouthpiece to tell her people their vaccines are the safest and better than western ones without taking into consideration the variants attacking other nations.
Of course I know they are all safe because all Phase 1/2 trials look at Safety, Tolerability and Immunogenicity, the right dosage for human use. Phase 3 will look at Efficacy. The trials must also cover many ethnic groups, age groups, allergies, etc. but did they? It's a big question mark. -
56 locally transmitted cases today :sad:
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And these people may have resistance to a certain extent to go for testing :sad:
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ngl2010\" post_id=\"2030559\" time=\"1626258123\" user_id=\"40978:
Utterly disappointed!
56 locally transmitted cases today :sad:
In the 1st place, can the index case be allowed to enter Spore? She shld hv gone thru the quarantine period etc and why became infected? -
starlight1968sg\" post_id=\"2030562\" time=\"1626259462\" user_id=\"14025:
I don’t think she’s an imported case. LTVP are those already living here. If they broke any rules then they should be punished lor.
Utterly disappointed!ngl2010\" post_id=\"2030559\" time=\"1626258123\" user_id=\"40978:
56 locally transmitted cases today :sad:
In the 1st place, can the index case be allowed to enter Spore? She shld hv gone thru the quarantine period etc and why became infected? -
She’s on Short Term Visit Pass!! In the first place, how did she get into SG? Thought no flying from Vietnam? Sham marriage?
She brought the virus from Vietnam or she got it in SG? STVP no need to serve SHN? She got no TT Token? Is she vaccinated?
“OYK urged all those who have visited the KTV lounges to come forward to get tested and he added that police will take action against the lounges and hostesses.” Well, if I read on papers that police is gonna take action, i would really hesitate to go for testing lah. Lol. But I am worried those uncles may bring back the virus to their families then spread to their children who then bring back to their schools. I know a handful of married men who frequent KTVs (citing business needs). -
lee_yl\" post_id=\"2030582\" time=\"1626265460\" user_id=\"17023:
It's possible that she was not infected when she arrived, but caught it in Singapore. There are cases here in the community. The problem is that her activities are the type that spread the virus further.
She’s on Short Term Visit Pass!! In the first place, how did she get into SG? Thought no flying from Vietnam? Sham marriage?
She brought the virus from Vietnam or she got it in SG? STVP no need to serve SHN? She got no TT Token? Is she vaccinated?
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