Corona Virus Disease (COVID-19) Updates
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lee_yl\" post_id=\"2037294\" time=\"1631243793\" user_id=\"17023:
From MOH news highlights: As of 9 September 2021, 12pm, 664 COVID-19 cases are currently warded in hospital. Most are well and under observation. There are currently 26 cases of serious illness requiring oxygen supplementation, and 7 in critical condition in the ICU. Of those who have fallen very ill, 28 are seniors above 60 years.
I notice that while there are only 6 in ICU, we already have 664 warded in hospital, Think before we reach even near 1000 ICU cases, there will be more than 100k covid patients warded inside hospitals due to covid. Do we have enough doctors and nurses not to mention beds to go round?
I think it's mainly too much caution and too many available beds that has caused 600+ to be hospitalised. And these don't count in the \"100 ICU beds for Covid patients\". -
slmkhoo\" post_id=\"2037377\" time=\"1631265960\" user_id=\"28674:
Yes, the 664 warded in hospitals have not fallen “seriously ill” but they still need to occupy an isolation type bed.
From MOH news highlights: As of 9 September 2021, 12pm, 664 COVID-19 cases are currently warded in hospital. Most are well and under observation. There are currently 26 cases of serious illness requiring oxygen supplementation, and 7 in critical condition in the ICU. Of those who have fallen very ill, 28 are seniors above 60 years.lee_yl\" post_id=\"2037294\" time=\"1631243793\" user_id=\"17023:
I notice that while there are only 6 in ICU, we already have 664 warded in hospital, Think before we reach even near 1000 ICU cases, there will be more than 100k covid patients warded inside hospitals due to covid. Do we have enough doctors and nurses not to mention beds to go round?
I think it's mainly too much caution and too many available beds that has caused 600+ to be hospitalised. And these don't count in the \"100 ICU beds for Covid patients\".
OYK said MOH has prepared 1000 isolation type beds for these covid patients but it’s almost 80% full. Of cos can discharge some to CCF and repurpose more beds.
But for just 6 ICU cases, we already have 664 warded, so for 1000 ICU cases, can we expect 100K+ warded in hospitals needing isolation type beds?
OKY: “ Thus, the odds of a large surge in cases are stacked against us: we knew that when a cluster grows uncontrollably, infection numbers would double every seven to ten days, which meant that hospital beds could fill up in a week. Beyond that, we could be overwhelmed. \" -
lee_yl\" post_id=\"2037385\" time=\"1631268504\" user_id=\"17023:
Yes, the 664 warded in hospitals have not fallen “seriously ill” but they still need to occupy an isolation type bed.
From MOH news highlights: As of 9 September 2021, 12pm, 664 COVID-19 cases are currently warded in hospital. Most are well and under observation. There are currently 26 cases of serious illness requiring oxygen supplementation, and 7 in critical condition in the ICU. Of those who have fallen very ill, 28 are seniors above 60 years.slmkhoo\" post_id=\"2037377\" time=\"1631265960\" user_id=\"28674:
[quote=lee_yl post_id=2037294 time=1631243793 user_id=17023]I notice that while there are only 6 in ICU, we already have 664 warded in hospital, Think before we reach even near 1000 ICU cases, there will be more than 100k covid patients warded inside hospitals due to covid. Do we have enough doctors and nurses not to mention beds to go round?
I think it's mainly too much caution and too many available beds that has caused 600+ to be hospitalised. And these don't count in the \"100 ICU beds for Covid patients\".
OYK said MOH has prepared 1000 isolation type beds for these covid patients but it’s almost 80% full. Of cos can discharge some to CCF and repurpose more beds.
But for just 6 ICU cases, we already have 664 warded, so for 1000 ICU cases, can we expect 100K+ warded in hospitals needing isolation type beds?
OKY: “ Thus, the odds of a large surge in cases are stacked against us: we knew that when a cluster grows uncontrollably, infection numbers would double every seven to ten days, which meant that hospital beds could fill up in a week. Beyond that, we could be overwhelmed. \"[/quote]They are already allowing some people to recover at home, and will extend it further in future - so the pressure on hospital beds will decrease. It would be ridiculous to keep to the current ratio if the virus is regarded as endemic and most people are not seriously ill. Higher risk ones should be kept in hospital for observation, but no need to keep so many. It's like hospitalising everyone who has flu. -
My DH says MOH and MTF too panicky. Don’t know what they are talking about.
LW said we all should be mentally prepared that cases will surge once we open up. Our cases already surged to 451 before the tourists started coming in and with 50% still WFH. So “Open up” to what? Opening of dining in?
The vaccination rate has reached 81%, so there’s no more trump card except to roll out booster shots? -
lee_yl\" post_id=\"2037389\" time=\"1631269636\" user_id=\"17023:
I think it’s just the fear of the unknown. I think the country is well-positioned to transit into endemic and can see OYK believes it could work. But the rest like LW and HC are probably still on the fence about it. I guess they all give OYK 2 weeks to see if his theory would actually work out.
My DH says MOH and MTF too panicky. Don’t know what they are talking about.
LW said we all should be mentally prepared that cases will surge once we open up. Our cases already surged to 451 before the tourists started coming in and with 50% still WFH. So “Open up” to what? Opening of dining in?
The vaccination rate has reached 81%, so there’s no more trump card except to roll out booster shots? -
When we hit 3000 daily cases, at least 1% of them or 30 people will be seriously ill. 300 icu beds will be filled up in 10 days.
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slmkhoo\" post_id=\"2037387\" time=\"1631269131\" user_id=\"28674:
I cannot say for sure whether the 664 patients may need medical care/attention otherwise the majority of them could be shifted to CCF. Whether over warded or not, only the medical professionals can tell.
They are already allowing some people to recover at home, and will extend it further in future - so the pressure on hospital beds will decrease. It would be ridiculous to keep to the current ratio if the virus is regarded as endemic and most people are not seriously ill. Higher risk ones should be kept in hospital for observation, but no need to keep so many. It's like hospitalising everyone who has flu.lee_yl\" post_id=\"2037385\" time=\"1631268504\" user_id=\"17023:
Yes, the 664 warded in hospitals have not fallen “seriously ill” but they still need to occupy an isolation type bed.
OYK said MOH has prepared 1000 isolation type beds for these covid patients but it’s almost 80% full. Of cos can discharge some to CCF and repurpose more beds.
But for just 6 ICU cases, we already have 664 warded, so for 1000 ICU cases, can we expect 100K+ warded in hospitals needing isolation type beds?
OKY: “ Thus, the odds of a large surge in cases are stacked against us: we knew that when a cluster grows uncontrollably, infection numbers would double every seven to ten days, which meant that hospital beds could fill up in a week. Beyond that, we could be overwhelmed. \"
Today alone, reported 127 seniors tested positive. So 664 warded hospital don’t seem a lot to me now. -
thisis2012\" post_id=\"2037416\" time=\"1631289306\" user_id=\"65469:
OYK said in MTF conference that the newly announced measures can only handle up to 1000 daily community cases. When we hit 1000 daily community cases, new measures will need to be rolled out.
When we hit 3000 daily cases, at least 1% of them or 30 people will be seriously ill. 300 icu beds will be filled up in 10 days.
Basically, whatever they plan for us, it is good for next few days only as we will see 1000 community cases very soon. -
Dreamaurora\" post_id=\"2037396\" time=\"1631274127\" user_id=\"38907:
How about PM Lee? PM Lee announced on his TV broadcast how SG can exit from managing Covid via Vaccinate, Test and Trace. But the MTF sort of forgot about following these (basic) strategies.
I think it’s just the fear of the unknown. I think the country is well-positioned to transit into endemic and can see OYK believes it could work. But the rest like LW and HC are probably still on the fence about it. I guess they all give OYK 2 weeks to see if his theory would actually work out.lee_yl\" post_id=\"2037389\" time=\"1631269636\" user_id=\"17023:
My DH says MOH and MTF too panicky. Don’t know what they are talking about.
LW said we all should be mentally prepared that cases will surge once we open up. Our cases already surged to 451 before the tourists started coming in and with 50% still WFH. So “Open up” to what? Opening of dining in?
The vaccination rate has reached 81%, so there’s no more trump card except to roll out booster shots?
OYK must have the courage lah. But can sense he is feeling very pressurized already. So it will be a pity cos we will never know whether his idea will work or not. :sad:
During the conference, OYK mentioned that contact tracing still need to go through manual interview and every interview lasts for 2hours+. Upon hearing this, DH nearly fell off his chair. Thought we already pushed out Trace Together token (at a very high cost), the app and Safe Entry yet we still need to rely on manual process? What’s wrong? If you interview 10 pax, 8 will not remember where they have been for past 2 weeks. And if ask 10 pax whether they had visited KTVs, 9 would say no.
OYK said MOH can’t contact trace because the daily numbers are so huge. They cannot spend 2hrs for every case. Did the ego of the ‘person-in-charge of contact tracing’ so big that he didn’t know how to ask for help? Last year still roped in SAF and Police to help. Now it’s tooooo late, daily unlinked numbers too big, can’t be helped, sigh…. -
Are our Mins aged 60 and above taking the booster shots?
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