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    Corona Virus Disease (COVID-19) Updates

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    • Z Offline
      zeit.033699
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      zeit.\" post_id=\"2039588\" time=\"1632718930\" user_id=\"194295:

      According to STB, our visitor arrivals over the past 3 months were not staggering. So, something somewhere went wrong?
      https://i.imgur.com/h6yogzU.png\">
      OK I kinda figured why now. Our SG Visitor Arrivals from Jan-Jul 2021 = 137,180.

      That's higher than HK's (7.5mil pop) & TW's (23mil pop) and closer to Japan's (126.6mil pop) visitor arrivals from Jan-Jul this year. No wonder their infection rate is so low.

      HK for the same period only saw 42,415 VA.
      TW saw 82,695.
      JP had 147,441.

      https://i.imgur.com/WjDkGCU.png\">

      https://i.imgur.com/DtVNaLa.png\">

      https://i.imgur.com/bORthPU.png\">

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      • P Offline
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        https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/covid-19-quarantine-order-psle-can-child-take-exam-papers-2214716


        So, we managed to QO 1.425% of our PSLE students. Bravo!

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          pirate
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          zeit.\" post_id=\"2040034\" time=\"1633061485\" user_id=\"194295:

          zeit.\" post_id=\"2039588\" time=\"1632718930\" user_id=\"194295:

          According to STB, our visitor arrivals over the past 3 months were not staggering. So, something somewhere went wrong?
          https://i.imgur.com/h6yogzU.png\">

          OK I kinda figured why now. Our SG Visitor Arrivals from Jan-Jul 2021 = 137,180.

          That's higher than HK's (7.5mil pop) & TW's (23mil pop) and closer to Japan's (126.6mil pop) visitor arrivals from Jan-Jul this year. No wonder their infection rate is so low.

          Nah. It's the fish. 🦆

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          • Z Offline
            zeit.033699
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            pirate\" post_id=\"2040030\" time=\"1633059297\" user_id=\"66252:

            zeit.\" post_id=\"2040027\" time=\"1633058510\" user_id=\"194295:

            [quote=pirate post_id=2039986 time=1633021809 user_id=66252]https://www.duke-nus.edu.sg/allnews/new-study-boosts-hopes-for-a-broad-vaccine

            I would throw $1bn and collaborate with China on this because they have all the SARS Covid-1 antibody samples from 2003 recoveries and can ramp up production faster than anybody else.

            We have so many cases now we can do the Phase 1, 2 and 3 trials all at home in Singapore. 🦆

            US has already ordered like-minded democracies like TW not to sell chips to Huawei, and even ordered TSMC to move to Arizona, what makes you think Duke will want to partner with the Chinese?

            NCID is also running a clinical trial with the NIH (National Institutes of Health) in the US, known as the ACTIV-3/TICO trial, focusing on two types of novel drugs. ACTIV-3 is part of a public-private partnership to develop a coordinated research strategy for prioritising and speeding development of the most promising treatments and vaccines.

            What makes you think Duke has more say than Yale? It's what our gov decides that counts. But I am realistic enough to know that our gov people still worship the US. Why you think we are in this neither here nor there mess now?

            That's why I said \"I would\". But I know our gov wouldn't. So we can all wait long long. It ain't going to happen.[/quote]And what makes you think China is willing to offer you their recovered SARS patients' samples or for that matter their citizens as your lab rats?

            Where patents, nationalism, supply chain and national security are concerned, of course China will quietly conduct its own trials using its own subjects, and if there's a better choice, they will prioritise trialing on foreigners in Brazil, UAE, Turkey, Chile, Indonesia and so on over their own folks.

            And unless they have a stake (as in the case of Fosun being a large stakeholder of BNT) and FDI inflow is promised (like BNT setting up a mfg plant and helping to grow their mRNA research), they wouldn't have actually allowed some 144 Chinese subjects to undergo the domestic trials of BNT162b2 on their soil using their GMP lab facilities.

            Our Duke-Arcturus ARCT trials were conducted in the US and Singapore. ARCT-154 trials are done in the other country that Kamala Harris visited recently -- Vietnam. This has to do with geopolitics, bro.
            https://covid19.trackvaccines.org/country/singapore/

            And one more important thing I forgot: ultimately, everyone in the world wants to get US FDA's approval lah! That's the Michelin 3*. e.g. our cPass test has received FDA's approval.

            As for Yale, it's because SG is spooked by HK's umbrella movement & anti-extradition protests spurred by some youth whose critical faculties were ignited after taking liberal studies as one of the 4 compulsory modules in senior high school.

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              pirate
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              zeit.\" post_id=\"2040054\" time=\"1633065578\" user_id=\"194295:

              And unless they have a stake (as in the case of Fosun being a large stakeholder of BNT) and FDI inflow is promised (like BNT setting up a mfg plant and helping to grow their mRNA research)...
              Doh. Of course China will have a large stake in it, and you do know which country has the highest FDI inflow into China? Guess who else has a big stake in BioNTech?

              Duke-NUS, Fosun, Temasek, BioNTech and Pfizer... Biden would have a heart attack.

              Anyway, like I said, it ain't happening. Wait long long.

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                Estéema\" post_id=\"2039923\" time=\"1632987155\" user_id=\"66413:

                No lah, Chief. They’re not using crystal ball to predict but the epidemiologist & virologist use a calibrated formula to extrapolate.

                I read an article s’time back how they use tt to apply in diff context, population, etc to extrapolate. So one typical cultural habits & the ability to implement regulations contributes partly to the numbers. Some weightage are higher & some lower. The scientific at does the numbering crunching & not the politician. The latest Delta also hv a set of formula they use for the difference in variant spread. It is a heavy responsibility to care for the covid spread to elderlies but we also hv to care for the ver young ones who hv not been vaccinated & awaiting the trials to be conclusive for the age group. They are the future generation, so the need to implement tightened measures when the numbers go up. We don’t even want the very young ones (tho might be stronger for the covid infection which has been the pattern so far), to be laden with aftermath health issues & lead a less than optimum life. ...
                Thanks Esteema. Honestly it seems like everyone is spitting out numbers these days and I'm all googly-eyed from just trying to read (not understand) what they are saying. But numbers are just numbers, and other countries are not Singapore. It's still pretty scary how fast the infection is spreading in Singapore, it seems.

                If we want to treat this thing as \"endemic\", ok, we will. That will require us to EXPECT to catch COVID-19 one day, and be able to laugh it off as a bad cold. Yet the current images of doctors and nurses in full PPE gear handling patients being stretchered out of ambulances run counter to this view. I know that old and weak people can die from having \"colds\". So perhaps the right method is to compare the mortality rate of people who have died from common colds with that of vaccinated people who died from COVID? That will set things in perspective, and hopefully calm things down, assuming the numbers is about the same. If they are very different, then its time to :yikes:

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                • starlight1968sgS Offline
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                  Can we get rid of covid? No and this means we hv to live with it. Hence taking endemic route is reasonable.

                  Can we really accept it as part of our life with so many unknown about the covid? I dont think so at moment.

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                  • MrsKiasuM Offline
                    MrsKiasu
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                    ChiefKiasu\" post_id=\"2040109\" time=\"1633074455\" user_id=\"3:

                    Estéema\" post_id=\"2039923\" time=\"1632987155\" user_id=\"66413:

                    No lah, Chief. They’re not using crystal ball to predict but the epidemiologist & virologist use a calibrated formula to extrapolate.

                    I read an article s’time back how they use tt to apply in diff context, population, etc to extrapolate. So one typical cultural habits & the ability to implement regulations contributes partly to the numbers. Some weightage are higher & some lower. The scientific at does the numbering crunching & not the politician. The latest Delta also hv a set of formula they use for the difference in variant spread. It is a heavy responsibility to care for the covid spread to elderlies but we also hv to care for the ver young ones who hv not been vaccinated & awaiting the trials to be conclusive for the age group. They are the future generation, so the need to implement tightened measures when the numbers go up. We don’t even want the very young ones (tho might be stronger for the covid infection which has been the pattern so far), to be laden with aftermath health issues & lead a less than optimum life. ...

                    Thanks Esteema. Honestly it seems like everyone is spitting out numbers these days and I'm all googly-eyed from just trying to read (not understand) what they are saying. But numbers are just numbers, and other countries are not Singapore. It's still pretty scary how fast the infection is spreading in Singapore, it seems.

                    If we want to treat this thing as \"endemic\", ok, we will. That will require us to EXPECT to catch COVID-19 one day, and be able to laugh it off as a bad cold. Yet the current images of doctors and nurses in full PPE gear handling patients being stretchered out of ambulances run counter to this view. I know that old and weak people can die from having \"colds\". So perhaps the right method is to compare the mortality rate of people who have died from common colds with that of vaccinated people who died from COVID? That will set things in perspective, and hopefully calm things down, assuming the numbers is about the same. If they are very different, then its time to :yikes:

                    And may I add...the eMPS..I have some internal struggle in the matching..apologies if that no longer true coz I have never seen mp(yet).

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                    • sharonkhooS Offline
                      sharonkhoo
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                      starlight1968sg\" post_id=\"2040117\" time=\"1633076800\" user_id=\"14025:

                      Can we get rid of covid? No and this means we hv to live with it. Hence taking endemic route is reasonable.
                      Can we really accept it as part of our life with so many unknown about the covid? I dont think so at moment.
                      Nothing is ever completely known, and we have to deal with it as best we can given what we know. Cancer has been with us for centuries, and we still don't know all that much about it. I'm not prepared to put life on hold for another 2 years or 10 years or however long it takes to know \"enough\". For myself, I'm nearly 60 and don't want to waste what time is left (and Covid might get me anyway), and especially for the young people, they've hunkered down long enough.

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                        slmkhoo\" post_id=\"2040122\" time=\"1633077639\" user_id=\"28674:

                        starlight1968sg\" post_id=\"2040117\" time=\"1633076800\" user_id=\"14025:

                        Can we get rid of covid? No and this means we hv to live with it. Hence taking endemic route is reasonable.
                        Can we really accept it as part of our life with so many unknown about the covid? I dont think so at moment.

                        Nothing is ever completely known, and we have to deal with it as best we can given what we know. Cancer has been with us for centuries, and we still don't know all that much about it. I'm not prepared to put life on hold for another 2 years or 10 years or however long it takes to know \"enough\". For myself, I'm nearly 60 and don't want to waste what time is left (and Covid might get me anyway), and especially for the young people, they've hunkered down long enough.

                        slmkhoo
                        I dont want to waste time too as the world has stopped for about 2 years and maybe even more due to covid.
                        I know I have to accept covid as part of my life but i am bothered by the number of new cases and deaths although I know each day there are pple dying anyway.

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