2023 PSLE Discussions and Strategies (Children born in 2011)
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phtthp\" post_id=\"2041272\" time=\"1633582541\" user_id=\"35251:
P4 streaming is no big deal.
If cancel P4 year end exam, then how to do streaming into 2022 new P5 classes ?
maybe rely back on this current
P4 (SA1 mid-year + Term 3 CA1, if ever there was one conducted) test results, to stream ?
https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/parenting-education/year-end-exams-cancelled-for-pri-3-and-4-pupils-classes-to-resume
Because whatever subject combi they suggest, is only a suggestion.
Eg school suggests Foundation Science, Standard English Maths Chinese.
Parent can still override and submit form for Standard EMS, Higher Chinese. If u think it’s suitable.
End of P5 then school decide for you. -
Want to check…am I correct to say that under the new AL system, HCL is of lesser relevance for someone not targeting SAP secondary school?
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MrsKiasu\" post_id=\"2041280\" time=\"1633583900\" user_id=\"43981:
Under both T score & AL System, HCL grade is not taken into consideration if you’re not targeting SAP secondary school.
Want to check..am I correct to say that under the new AL system, HCL is of lesser relevance for someone not targeting SAP secondary school?
So if you not going to SAP school, don’t bother taking up HCL unless very free nothing better to do. Got free time just read Chinese storybooks also can learn. -
zac's mum\" post_id=\"2041281\" time=\"1633584037\" user_id=\"53606:[quote=\"zac's mum\" post_id=2041281 time=1633584037 user_id=53606]
Ok thanks..only remember some 'emphasis' of HCL during dd1's time ..now like quiet.MrsKiasu\" post_id=\"2041280\" time=\"1633583900\" user_id=\"43981:Under both T score & AL System, HCL grade is not taken into consideration if you’re not targeting SAP secondary school.
So if you not going to SAP school, don’t bother taking up HCL unless very free nothing better to do. Got free time just read Chinese storybooks also can learn. -
zac's mum\" post_id=\"2041278\" time=\"1633583660\" user_id=\"53606:[quote=\"zac's mum\" post_id=2041278 time=1633583660 user_id=53606]
I am more concerned that it is a missed opportunity to practise exam taking skills. Their next exam would be p5 year end exam, 1.5 years since the last. This is the first cohort of \" test less learn more\". It is what it is and will make the best of this change.phtthp\" post_id=\"2041272\" time=\"1633582541\" user_id=\"35251:
P4 streaming is no big deal.If cancel P4 year end exam, then how to do streaming into 2022 new P5 classes ?
maybe rely back on this current
P4 (SA1 mid-year + Term 3 CA1, if ever there was one conducted) test results, to stream ?
https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/parenting-education/year-end-exams-cancelled-for-pri-3-and-4-pupils-classes-to-resume
Because whatever subject combi they suggest, is only a suggestion.
Eg school suggests Foundation Science, Standard English Maths Chinese.
Parent can still override and submit form for Standard EMS, Higher Chinese. If u think it’s suitable.
End of P5 then school decide for you.[/quote]
On streaming, some schools are quite specific about HMT / foundation equirements. Good to know that there is room for negotiation. -
iggy\" post_id=\"2041789\" time=\"1633960936\" user_id=\"32682:
I am more concerned that it is a missed opportunity to practise exam taking skills. Their next exam would be p5 year end exam, 1.5 years since the last. This is the first cohort of \" test less learn more\". It is what it is and will make the best of this change.
P4 streaming is no big deal.zac's mum\" post_id=\"2041278\" time=\"1633583660\" user_id=\"53606:[quote=\"zac's mum\" post_id=2041278 time=1633583660 user_id=53606]
If cancel P4 year end exam, then how to do streaming into 2022 new P5 classes ?
maybe rely back on this current
P4 (SA1 mid-year + Term 3 CA1, if ever there was one conducted) test results, to stream ?
https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/parenting-education/year-end-exams-cancelled-for-pri-3-and-4-pupils-classes-to-resume
Because whatever subject combi they suggest, is only a suggestion.
Eg school suggests Foundation Science, Standard English Maths Chinese.
Parent can still override and submit form for Standard EMS, Higher Chinese. If u think it’s suitable.
End of P5 then school decide for you.
On streaming, some schools are quite specific about HMT / foundation equirements. Good to know that there is room for negotiation.[/quote]Here is the official MOE write up on P4 “streaming” (it’s called SBB). It is like I mentioned, parents can override the school’s recommendation if they want. U can use P5 year to see if your child can cope with your choice or not.
https://www.moe.gov.sg/primary/curriculum/subject-based-banding
https://www.saintandrewsjunior.moe.edu.sg/qql/slot/u180/MOE_Subject-Based_Banding.pdf
My personal opinion on exams (especially P4 exams): they are a poor assessment tool for gauging how well a child has understood what he needs to know. They are only a snapshot of how well he can answer P4 exam questions.
Bear in mind that P4 exam format is so different from P5 (PSLE) format. Compo and zuowen are completely different, maths and science require HOT skills with longer and fuller answers due to more marks allocated per qn. English and Chinese compre too.
I find that: doing well/poorly in P4 exams is no indicator of whether the child will do similarly well/poorly in P5/P6 exams. It’s a different kettle of fish.
Parents can still focus on ensuring your child has the content knowledge and foundational thinking/analysis skills, without having exams u know. Just continue having regular practise and revision, do sample exam papers to get used to the qn types, but no need to count and stress over the marks. Noting where the mistakes are is more useful for diagnosis than marks alone. -
zac's mum\" post_id=\"2041792\" time=\"1633962881\" user_id=\"53606:[quote=\"zac's mum\" post_id=2041792 time=1633962881 user_id=53606]
Some schools already started using the so called PSLE format for P4 exams. Hence, it’s really a missed opportunity to gauge where the child stands at this snapshot in time.
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My personal opinion on exams (especially P4 exams): they are a poor assessment tool for gauging how well a child has understood what he needs to know. They are only a snapshot of how well he can answer P4 exam questions.
Bear in mind that P4 exam format is so different from P5 (PSLE) format. Compo and zuowen are completely different, maths and science require HOT skills with longer and fuller answers due to more marks allocated per qn. English and Chinese compre too.
I find that: doing well/poorly in P4 exams is no indicator of whether the child will do similarly well/poorly in P5/P6 exams. It’s a different kettle of fish.
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floppy\" post_id=\"2041829\" time=\"1633999825\" user_id=\"97579:
Are u sure…go see PSLE 3-year series in Popular…and compare to those P4 free exam papers.
Some schools already started using the so called PSLE format for P4 exams. Hence, it’s really a missed opportunity to gauge where the child stands at this snapshot in time.[/quote]zac's mum\" post_id=\"2041792\" time=\"1633962881\" user_id=\"53606:[quote=\"zac's mum\" post_id=2041792 time=1633962881 user_id=53606]…
My personal opinion on exams (especially P4 exams): they are a poor assessment tool for gauging how well a child has understood what he needs to know. They are only a snapshot of how well he can answer P4 exam questions.
Bear in mind that P4 exam format is so different from P5 (PSLE) format. Compo and zuowen are completely different, maths and science require HOT skills with longer and fuller answers due to more marks allocated per qn. English and Chinese compre too.
I find that: doing well/poorly in P4 exams is no indicator of whether the child will do similarly well/poorly in P5/P6 exams. It’s a different kettle of fish.
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floppy\" post_id=\"2041829\" time=\"1633999825\" user_id=\"97579:
Wow, with no P5 SA1 I can't say it is a bad move though. It may be quite challenging but you have more time to adapt and adjust before P5 SA2. I am not sure whether the WAs always do justice to the full upper primary SA2.
Some schools already started using the so called PSLE format for P4 exams. Hence, it’s really a missed opportunity to gauge where the child stands at this snapshot in time.[/quote]zac's mum\" post_id=\"2041792\" time=\"1633962881\" user_id=\"53606:[quote=\"zac's mum\" post_id=2041792 time=1633962881 user_id=53606]…
My personal opinion on exams (especially P4 exams): they are a poor assessment tool for gauging how well a child has understood what he needs to know. They are only a snapshot of how well he can answer P4 exam questions.
Bear in mind that P4 exam format is so different from P5 (PSLE) format. Compo and zuowen are completely different, maths and science require HOT skills with longer and fuller answers due to more marks allocated per qn. English and Chinese compre too.
I find that: doing well/poorly in P4 exams is no indicator of whether the child will do similarly well/poorly in P5/P6 exams. It’s a different kettle of fish.
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zac's mum\" post_id=\"2041830\" time=\"1634000258\" user_id=\"53606:[quote=\"zac's mum\" post_id=2041830 time=1634000258 user_id=53606]
Are u sure…go see PSLE 3-year series in Popular…and compare to those P4 free exam papers.[/quote]Yah, I shared the mock test paper, mid-year exams and oral with some teaching friends to seek their opinion and feedback because I can’t tell the difference between the PSLE format and the school’s papers. Apparently, some papers / sections have already been lstructured based on PSLE format (it seems like different schools can choose different approaches). I’m assuming the intention is to reduce any major shock when pupils stepped into P5.floppy\" post_id=\"2041829\" time=\"1633999825\" user_id=\"97579:
Some schools already started using the so called PSLE format for P4 exams. Hence, it’s really a missed opportunity to gauge where the child stands at this snapshot in time.[/quote][quote=\"zac's mum\" post_id=2041792 time=1633962881 user_id=53606]…
My personal opinion on exams (especially P4 exams): they are a poor assessment tool for gauging how well a child has understood what he needs to know. They are only a snapshot of how well he can answer P4 exam questions.
Bear in mind that P4 exam format is so different from P5 (PSLE) format. Compo and zuowen are completely different, maths and science require HOT skills with longer and fuller answers due to more marks allocated per qn. English and Chinese compre too.
I find that: doing well/poorly in P4 exams is no indicator of whether the child will do similarly well/poorly in P5/P6 exams. It’s a different kettle of fish.
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