Corona Virus Disease (COVID-19) Updates
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ChiefKiasu\" post_id=\"2041795\" time=\"1633964006\" user_id=\"3:
Again, this is the cost we have to play when our gov plays vaccine politics.
Unvaccinated children aged 12 and below allowed to enter Singapore under vaccinated travel lanes: CAAS
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/covid-19-vaccinated-travel-lane-children-12-years-below-2235486
I think we are all going to die soon... this has got to be one of the most horrendous decisions made by CAAS. So why bother having this \"safe lane\" in the first place when some are safe but others are \"not\"?? -
zeit.\" post_id=\"2041779\" time=\"1633957650\" user_id=\"194295:
Not everyone, especially the elderly, is so mobile that they can travel easily to those places where there are shophouses. Many may not know where to go if they have been mainly patronising a mall close to their home. For some/many, the nearest supermarket, pharmacy, even doctor or bank may be in a mall. And if they have to travel further, unvaccinated people will be more exposed through spending more time on public transport. I think this is a badly thought-out policy. Perhaps they should advise the unvaccinated to avoid peak periods for their own safety. If they choose not to, the risk is theirs.
All these petitioners should wean themselves off those profiteering REIT utility shopping malls. They just want to shop at H&M, Uniqlo, Donki, Daiso, right?
It's time for them to support our mom&pop small retail outlets. Singaporeans are too enslaved to mega malls.
There are so many essential services in mature HDB estates located in shophouses. If I'm banned from malls, I already know exactly where to get my substitute goods & services, from hair salons, foot reflexologist, TCM, dental, GP, banks, Ang Mo, NTUC, Giant, Guardian, Watsons, Unity, BBT, chain bakeries, hardware stores, optical shops, locksmiths/cobbler, value household stores, utensil shops to SKP.
Some argued they need to go to the telco shops, Challenger, Harvey Norman, Courts. If they're so IT savvy, why not buy or pay online? For furniture, I don't know if they can enter Ikea or Courts@Tampines, both large standalone stores. If they want a new plan, perhaps they should do it during the grace period. For HP servicing (like Samsung HP), they probably have to let them in to the malls!
For Popular items, they can buy from schoolbag or buy everything during the grace period like I did before CB kicked in. Otherwise, maybe Bras Basah Complex, Marine Parade Central HDB building or Toa Payoh HDB Hub which are not a shopping mall by definition?
For school uniforms end-Dec, maybe they can order online or from new/existing schools if they cannot enter shopping malls to fit and try?
For preggers, maybe their hubby could drive them to industrial warehouses to buy from Baby's Palace or just send the hubby to Kiddy Palace to buy whatever they need. They can order a lot of baby stuffs online/Carousell including maternity wear.
If they wish to buy undergarments, they have to buy Double Rabbit from HDB shops or online. :siam: -
Some of you may have Hong Kong friends, or have domestic helpers who have friends or who had worked in Hong Kong before. Legally and culturally, domestic helpers in HK have a lot of rights. For example, employers need to pay severance or long service payment if you terminate contracts prematurely etc. Domestic helpers also tend to have every Sunday and public holidays off in HK. And it seems like my friends also pay their domestic helpers bonus every year. (I doubt this is a legal requirement.) The status of domestic workers is different in HK, and after some time, they can even apply for residency if I am not wrong. Perhaps Dr Raymond Yuen's perspective and treatment of domestic helpers is influenced by how HKers treat helpers.
Sad to read of his demise
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Liew Nga Wing\" post_id=\"2041791\" time=\"1633962778\" user_id=\"195250:[quote=\"Liew Nga Wing\" post_id=2041791 time=1633962778 user_id=195250]
They can always take an inactivated whole virus vaccine like Sinovac or Sinopharm.
Some people are still hesitating because this mRNA vaccination is a relatively new technique and some may doubt whether there is any long term effects on our body.[/quote] -
pirate\" post_id=\"2041813\" time=\"1633994144\" user_id=\"66252:
Well, the hundreds of dead doctors in Indonesia who took Sinovac would probably disagree with you.
Unfortunately, this is the real life cost of playing vaccine politics and dragging our feet in approving non-mRNA vaccines.lee_yl\" post_id=\"2041801\" time=\"1633965991\" user_id=\"17023:
Heard he is a super 养生 type person, thus no mRNA vaccine for him.
It’s not that he only wanted to stop at 1 dose, he was waiting to take his 2nd dose of Sinopharm.
Unfortunately, he caught the virus before he could be fully vaccinated (2 weeks after 2nd dose to be effective). -
doodbug\" post_id=\"2041839\" time=\"1634003081\" user_id=\"13281:
Please don't start on this. My Hong Kong relatives say it is all a foreign NGO plot to destabilise Hong Kong in the long run.
Some of you may have Hong Kong friends, or have domestic helpers who have friends or who had worked in Hong Kong before. Legally and culturally, domestic helpers in HK have a lot of rights. For example, employers need to pay severance or long service payment if you terminate contracts prematurely etc. Domestic helpers also tend to have every Sunday and public holidays off in HK. And it seems like my friends also pay their domestic helpers bonus every year. (I doubt this is a legal requirement.) The status of domestic workers is different in HK, and after some time, they can even apply for residency if I am not wrong. Perhaps Dr Raymond Yuen's perspective and treatment of domestic helpers is influenced by how HKers treat helpers.
Sad to read of his demise
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not saying that Singapore should follow HK completely in this regard lah

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Dreamaurora\" post_id=\"2041843\" time=\"1634004493\" user_id=\"38907:
Well, the hundreds of dead doctors in Indonesia who took Sinovac would probably disagree with you.[/quote]Citation please.
Unfortunately, this is the real life cost of playing vaccine politics and dragging our feet in approving non-mRNA vaccines.pirate\" post_id=\"2041813\" time=\"1633994144\" user_id=\"66252:
[quote=lee_yl post_id=2041801 time=1633965991 user_id=17023]Heard he is a super 养生 type person, thus no mRNA vaccine for him.
It’s not that he only wanted to stop at 1 dose, he was waiting to take his 2nd dose of Sinopharm.
Unfortunately, he caught the virus before he could be fully vaccinated (2 weeks after 2nd dose to be effective).
Might as well say that the scores of dead vaccinated people in Singapore would probably disagree with vaccination altogether, with that kind of politically motivated logic.
Thank you for helping to spread vaccine disinformation. -
Some are just more kind hearted I guess…
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slmkhoo\" post_id=\"2041822\" time=\"1633997757\" user_id=\"28674:
Ban this ban that, might as well mandate all seniors to be vaccinated except those who are medically certified not able to.
Not everyone, especially the elderly, is so mobile that they can travel easily to those places where there are shophouses. Many may not know where to go if they have been mainly patronising a mall close to their home. For some/many, the nearest supermarket, pharmacy, even doctor or bank may be in a mall. And if they have to travel further, unvaccinated people will be more exposed through spending more time on public transport. I think this is a badly thought-out policy. Perhaps they should advise the unvaccinated to avoid peak periods for their own safety. If they choose not to, the risk is theirs.zeit.\" post_id=\"2041779\" time=\"1633957650\" user_id=\"194295:
All these petitioners should wean themselves off those profiteering REIT utility shopping malls. They just want to shop at H&M, Uniqlo, Donki, Daiso, right?
It's time for them to support our mom&pop small retail outlets. Singaporeans are too enslaved to mega malls.
There are so many essential services in mature HDB estates located in shophouses. If I'm banned from malls, I already know exactly where to get my substitute goods & services, from hair salons, foot reflexologist, TCM, dental, GP, banks, Ang Mo, NTUC, Giant, Guardian, Watsons, Unity, BBT, chain bakeries, hardware stores, optical shops, locksmiths/cobbler, value household stores, utensil shops to SKP.
Some argued they need to go to the telco shops, Challenger, Harvey Norman, Courts. If they're so IT savvy, why not buy or pay online? For furniture, I don't know if they can enter Ikea or Courts@Tampines, both large standalone stores. If they want a new plan, perhaps they should do it during the grace period. For HP servicing (like Samsung HP), they probably have to let them in to the malls!
For Popular items, they can buy from schoolbag or buy everything during the grace period like I did before CB kicked in. Otherwise, maybe Bras Basah Complex, Marine Parade Central HDB building or Toa Payoh HDB Hub which are not a shopping mall by definition?
For school uniforms end-Dec, maybe they can order online or from new/existing schools if they cannot enter shopping malls to fit and try?
For preggers, maybe their hubby could drive them to industrial warehouses to buy from Baby's Palace or just send the hubby to Kiddy Palace to buy whatever they need. They can order a lot of baby stuffs online/Carousell including maternity wear.
If they wish to buy undergarments, they have to buy Double Rabbit from HDB shops or online. :siam:
Earlier I proposed a temporary ban on dining in for seniors regardless of vaccination status because vaccinated seniors may also die of COVID.
How many seniors lying on hospital beds now who are seriously ill are vaccinated? Likely more than half!
Shopping itself WITH MASKS ON, is highly unlikely to transmit virus. It is not a scientific way to justify why unvaccinated folks cannot enter malls with mask on. Especially some elderly folks may want to go to bank, dental clinics or hair cut etc. at the mall infront of the house.
Not all HDB estates have plenty of shophouses like Toa Payoh HDB Hub. Ironically, TPY does not have large shopping malls but it is one of the estates with the most COVID cases!!
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