Corona Virus Disease (COVID-19) Updates
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Dreamaurora\" post_id=\"2041901\" time=\"1634017082\" user_id=\"38907:
The NYT article was updated 18 July.
The NYtimes article was dated June and the Straits Times article was dated 18 July. By end of June probably safe to assume that maybe close to 90% of the doctors were fully vaccinated with Sinovac. Even so, there was a spike of 114 doctors who died from early July to 17 July, and probably quite a few more by the end of July (no article to back this up though) coinciding with the spread of Delta. So we can probably draw the conclusion here that Sinovac is far less effective than MRNAs. Contrast this with Singapore who only had the very first medical worker fatality a few days ago. Even assuming that this might be because Singapore's medical care is top notch, surely we expect at least one or two dead doctors or nurses jabbed with MRNA by by now right? In any case, it seems your mind is made up about MRNA vaccines, if that is what you believe than you are entitled to that opinion.
No, you cannot scientifically draw such a conclusion because we do not know how many of the 114 deaths were vaccinated.
And no, you cannot draw a parallel between doctors and medical personnel in Singapore hospitals with doctors and medical personnel in some rural town in Indonesia with only basic facilities and no access to expensive anti-viral medication.
It is this kind of unscientific conclusion drawing that feeds the anti-vaxers - I don't want to take mRNA vaccines because they are new and unproven; I won't take Sinovac or Sinopharm either because I read that they are lousy; AZ and J have serious adverse reactions; and Sputnik etc are all not even approved by WHO. -
There are many shops esp the older estates have row of shops of almost everything we want to buy. Supermarkets in mall still can go?
Supermarkets also have quite a few outside the mall. -
I don’t think it’s a fair, apple to apple comparison. We all know the hygiene standards of hospitals in Singapore and Indonesia are vastly different. Moreover, I half suspect that during the massive outbreak, Indonesia may not have enough PPEs and their doctors and nurses may need to recycle PPEs.
There was a US scientist inoculated with Pfizer, went over to India and died of COVID-Delta variant there.
I would appreciate that MOH could release more data like how many of the vaccinated folks who passed on were inoculated with which vaccine. Maybe all those vaccinated and passed on due to COVID, 100% took Pfizer? This area, I can say Malaysia is more transparent than SG. -
lee_yl\" post_id=\"2041914\" time=\"1634019274\" user_id=\"17023:
In this way, as a layman, we can sense which is more helpful in preventing an infected vaccinated from dying of covid.
Maybe all those vaccinated and passed on due to COVID, 100% took Pfizer? This area, I can say Malaysia is more transparent than SG. -
starlight1968sg\" post_id=\"2041919\" time=\"1634019480\" user_id=\"14025:
Data seems to point out to Moderna as the better vaccine. Considering to take that as a booster shot.
In this way, as a layman, we can sense which is more helpful in preventing an infected vaccinated from dying of covid.lee_yl\" post_id=\"2041914\" time=\"1634019274\" user_id=\"17023:
Maybe all those vaccinated and passed on due to COVID, 100% took Pfizer? This area, I can say Malaysia is more transparent than SG.
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MrsKiasu\" post_id=\"2041913\" time=\"1634019047\" user_id=\"43981:
Supermarkets in malls cannot go. Anyway I also try not to go supermarkets during this time. 90% of my grocery is ordered from Amazon. The other 10% I just quickly drop by Cold Storage and M&S near closing time to get their clearance stuff.
There are many shops esp the older estates have row of shops of almost everything we want to buy. Supermarkets in mall still can go?
Supermarkets also have quite a few outside the mall. -
Dreamaurora\" post_id=\"2041923\" time=\"1634021189\" user_id=\"38907:
Data seems to point out to Moderna as the better vaccine. Considering to take that as a booster shot.[/quote]Thanks; i see more taking M as the booster shot.
In this way, as a layman, we can sense which is more helpful in preventing an infected vaccinated from dying of covid.starlight1968sg\" post_id=\"2041919\" time=\"1634019480\" user_id=\"14025:
[quote=lee_yl post_id=2041914 time=1634019274 user_id=17023]Maybe all those vaccinated and passed on due to COVID, 100% took Pfizer? This area, I can say Malaysia is more transparent than SG.
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Dreamaurora\" post_id=\"2041925\" time=\"1634021425\" user_id=\"38907:
My concern is the low income and elderly. The more tech-savvy can order online; those with transport can travel anywhere and carry loads home. The elderly may buy small quantities every day or 2, and to make them spend on travelling to a more distant place frequently not only costs more, but exposes them more. The low income also will have to bear more transport costs if they have to travel far, or carry heavy loads further than their neighbourhood mall.
Supermarkets in malls cannot go. Anyway I also try not to go supermarkets during this time. 90% of my grocery is ordered from Amazon. The other 10% I just quickly drop by Cold Storage and M&S near closing time to get their clearance stuff.MrsKiasu\" post_id=\"2041913\" time=\"1634019047\" user_id=\"43981:
There are many shops esp the older estates have row of shops of almost everything we want to buy. Supermarkets in mall still can go?
Supermarkets also have quite a few outside the mall. -
There are some seniors who just buy little food to last a couple of days.
I think the neighbours, RC and MPs would need to step in to help if these seniors are on HRP. -
Dreamaurora\" post_id=\"2041925\" time=\"1634021425\" user_id=\"38907:
I thought supermarket got exception..if cant go then can be quite inconvenient..unless nearby got those operating at shop rows.
Supermarkets in malls cannot go. Anyway I also try not to go supermarkets during this time. 90% of my grocery is ordered from Amazon. The other 10% I just quickly drop by Cold Storage and M&S near closing time to get their clearance stuff.MrsKiasu\" post_id=\"2041913\" time=\"1634019047\" user_id=\"43981:
There are many shops esp the older estates have row of shops of almost everything we want to buy. Supermarkets in mall still can go?
Supermarkets also have quite a few outside the mall.
One day I saw this Jordon van outside a mall ..they hv online shop at Qxxx. Got pork knuckle like quite alike de..you may want to try. Frozen cooked so convenient to prepare.
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