Corona Virus Disease (COVID-19) Updates

[Estéema]

Liew Nga Wing\" post_id=\"2042042\" time=\"1634080686\" user_id=\"195250:[quote=\"Liew Nga Wing\" post_id=2042042 time=1634080686 user_id=195250]

starlight1968sg\" post_id=\"2042040\" time=\"1634076369\" user_id=\"14025:

To think from another angle, why unvaccinated ones can't go here and there, to mix with the vaccinated ones? Aren't the unvaccinated ones more worry to catch the virus since the vaccinated if infected, are mostly mild or no symptoms?

This is to protect the unvaccinated ones from mixing with the big crowd in shopping malls and exposing themselves to the risk of dining because they may have more severe symptoms than those vaccinated ones.[/quote]

Yap. MOH can’t leave them carefree o’wise vulnerable & their resources alr stretched far too long alr. Think not just SG, some other countries like New York also tightened regulations for essential work & accessibility to public areas. We just gotta to work things out to help those unvax with practical daily needs. I still think the RCs in each area shld step up with either food distribution or collate orders to facilitate. At the moment, some volunteers helping with delivery but the help is pathetic. I noticed my area only one lady volunteering. She’ll wear out in no time.

[MrsKiasu]

I think that is an effective way in achieving the objective..if increase alot more maybe more than x mths after 2nd dose may get it also

[raysusan]

pirate\" post_id=\"2042043\" time=\"1634080996\" user_id=\"66252:

starlight1968sg\" post_id=\"2042040\" time=\"1634076369\" user_id=\"14025:

To think from another angle, why unvaccinated ones can't go here and there, to mix with the vaccinated ones? Aren't the unvaccinated ones more worry to catch the virus since the vaccinated if infected, are mostly mild or no symptoms?

No lah. It is so that the unvaccinated don't get infected by the vaccinated, and hog up all our limited medical resources.

but they allow the unvax to dine in upon PET
so contradicting
protect the unvax but allow PET..

[sharonkhoo]

raysusan\" post_id=\"2042056\" time=\"1634088417\" user_id=\"1304:

pirate\" post_id=\"2042043\" time=\"1634080996\" user_id=\"66252:

[quote=starlight1968sg post_id=2042040 time=1634076369 user_id=14025]To think from another angle, why unvaccinated ones can't go here and there, to mix with the vaccinated ones? Aren't the unvaccinated ones more worry to catch the virus since the vaccinated if infected, are mostly mild or no symptoms?

No lah. It is so that the unvaccinated don't get infected by the vaccinated, and hog up all our limited medical resources.

but they allow the unvax to dine in upon PET
so contradicting
protect the unvax but allow PET.. [/quote]All in all, this prohibiting the unvaccinated from malls was a mistake, but they cannot lose face by admitting it. So they make exceptions, and these will grow as people complain, and they will quietly change the policy after a while, and find some reason to say that it is no longer necessary.

This is a policy made by people who drive cars, know how to order online, have the means (and strength) to buy larger quantities at a time, who don't mind paying for deliveries...

If they want people to take reponsibility for themselves, then let the unvaccinated make their own decisions. Advise them, frighten them about the consequences, make it as easy as possible for them to get vaccinated if they can, but let them make their choices. It's like telling the elderly to use pedestrian crossings - if they choose not to, do we man every road to stop them?

[MrsKiasu]

I just guess some of the businesses are having challenges with the frequent changes and added responsibilities.


If I cook noodles at my stall and a person came ordering dine in..I have to take my head up, ask and see the vaccination status on hp? Or the hawkers share cost employ someone to keep going round the tables to check?

If me, I will just probably just take off my apron and say you all work la

[pirate]

I am more interested in the question if I am vaccinated, encountered the virus, but did not get infected even asymptomatically, because my body’s immune system squashed the virus before I could get infected, will I develop natural immunity?


Or will everyone who is vaccinated and encounters the virus still get infected, albeit asymptomatically?

[ChiefKiasu]

pirate\" post_id=\"2042077\" time=\"1634094958\" user_id=\"66252:

I am more interested in the question if I am vaccinated, encountered the virus, but did not get infected even asymptomatically, because my body's immune system squashed the virus before I could get infected, will I develop natural immunity?

Or will everyone who is vaccinated and encounters the virus still get infected, albeit asymptomatically?

Well, think about flu shots. We still have to take them every year. I think it is part of the natural selection process when we build immunity for the virus, with or without the vaccine. Not sure if having the vaccine may hasten this process, or simply patch us over this period when we are still developing natural immunity.

[Imp75]

MrsKiasu\" post_id=\"2042075\" time=\"1634093033\" user_id=\"43981:

I just guess some of the businesses are having challenges with the frequent changes and added responsibilities.

If I cook noodles at my stall and a person came ordering dine in..I have to take my head up, ask and see the vaccination status on hp? Or the hawkers share cost employ someone to keep going round the tables to check?

If me, I will just probably just take off my apron and say you all work la

So this morning I went to a coffesshop for breakfast. This is a chain coffeeshop with financial muscle. I was checked/verified with trace together app by the kopi auntie before I could place my kopi orders. My hubs ordered prata, hawker doesn't bother to check. Per Grace Fu, the onus to check lies on the spot check conducted by SMM officers not hawkers.

[MrsKiasu]

Just guess, probably so long as the system need to do some work on it ie virus entered into system, high chance will get the extra goodness coz our system may in a way recognise the virus even when it is trying to squash it


I just feel that a vaccinated person have quite high chance to get infected just that we may perform better than unvaccinated ba.

Then I have a qn..if we are less than 6 mths from 2nd dose, at current condition when it is expected that most of us will encounter the virus say in these x mths while we supposedly still under the protection of vaccination.. we may not need booster if our vaccination expiry date is longer than the x mths? Can check antibodies(?) I suppose..is it very expensive? Now it is like young, old, weak or strong all have a standard depletion rate..

[MrsKiasu]

Imp75\" post_id=\"2042084\" time=\"1634097495\" user_id=\"2358:

MrsKiasu\" post_id=\"2042075\" time=\"1634093033\" user_id=\"43981:

I just guess some of the businesses are having challenges with the frequent changes and added responsibilities.

If I cook noodles at my stall and a person came ordering dine in..I have to take my head up, ask and see the vaccination status on hp? Or the hawkers share cost employ someone to keep going round the tables to check?

If me, I will just probably just take off my apron and say you all work la

So this morning I went to a coffesshop for breakfast. This is a chain coffeeshop with financial muscle. I was checked/verified with trace together app by the kopi auntie before I could place my kopi orders. My hubs ordered prata, hawker doesn't bother to check. Per Grace Fu, the onus to check lies on the spot check conducted by SMM officers not hawkers.

Oic SMM officers salary paid by G I guess then not so bad. Those chain one I went, they ask and need to check but they have like 3 pax at the counter so can..