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    Corona Virus Disease (COVID-19) Updates

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    • EstéemaE Offline
      Estéema
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      MrsKiasu\" post_id=\"2042259\" time=\"1634219211\" user_id=\"43981:

      I guess mostly for family reunion also else feel stressful for this kind of holidays.

      Costly holidays. With all the tests, insurance etc.
      Agree. Most families unlikely to travel with very young kids in toll. Airfares & insurance costs hv gone up and the PCR tests for departure & returning hv to be taken in consideration. Most countries for VTL are in the Northern European/US countries in midst of winter whilst those going into summer are not accessible for tourists for this year. So, ya, travel in necessity basis.

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        Estéema\" post_id=\"2042263\" time=\"1634220307\" user_id=\"66413:

        MrsKiasu\" post_id=\"2042259\" time=\"1634219211\" user_id=\"43981:

        I guess mostly for family reunion also else feel stressful for this kind of holidays.

        Costly holidays. With all the tests, insurance etc.

        Agree. Most families unlikely to travel with very young kids in toll. Airfares & insurance costs hv gone up and the PCR tests for departure & returning hv to be taken in consideration. Most countries for VTL are in the Northern European/US countries in midst of winter whilst those going into summer are not accessible for tourists for this year. So, ya, travel in necessity basis.

        If you have relatives/friends living there, it's not that stressful bah. Say if you kena positive 48hr pre-departure, my understanding is Germany govt only needs you to isolate at home/hotel* for 5 days; or 10 days for e.g. France & UK. The Schengen region is already quite chill liao.

        It's Singapore's side, i.e. ICA that is anal and makes you stay for 14 days before they allow you to take a changed VTL flight home.

        14 days, right? OK, fine. So I self-isolate at my relatives' house/rented apartment (must check if possible to isolate in separate room) for free for 5 days (no/mild symptoms in Germany's case), and thereafter, to kill time I shall train to other cities to jalan jalan till the 14th day to come back to Singapore, can?

        I feel it's people who have no contacts in the VTL countries that will feel stressful as they have to spend a bomb on extended hotel stay, but of course part of it can be defrayed by your insurer lah.


        *Most EU countries don't have GQFs anymore; they just let you isolate at home/hotel. But if u kena Covid in ROK upon arrival or pre-departure, be prepared to stay in their GQF.

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        • EstéemaE Offline
          Estéema
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          Go for holiday & take risks to be isolated in hotel? Parents in SG alr complaining hard to hv young kids holed in any one place for long doing nitch. Most parents will stay ur bah. I’ve frds & relatives in Europe but they thot of getting sick (knowing there is covid out there?) is not my idea of going for R&R just to be released of any pant up need to travel & I do not hv families to reunite there. Just wanna travel, but can wait a little longer when the coast is truly clear abit more (not expecting zero cases round the world).

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          • MrsKiasuM Offline
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            The cases today :sad:

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            • lee_ylL Offline
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              Estéema\" post_id=\"2042263\" time=\"1634220307\" user_id=\"66413:

              MrsKiasu\" post_id=\"2042259\" time=\"1634219211\" user_id=\"43981:

              I guess mostly for family reunion also else feel stressful for this kind of holidays.

              Costly holidays. With all the tests, insurance etc.

              Agree. Most families unlikely to travel with very young kids in toll. Airfares & insurance costs hv gone up and the PCR tests for departure & returning hv to be taken in consideration. Most countries for VTL are in the Northern European/US countries in midst of winter whilst those going into summer are not accessible for tourists for this year. So, ya, travel in necessity basis.

              Delta variant doesn’t care whether you travel out of necessity or for leisure.

              But I am sure there are many Singaporeans out there who can’t wait to bring their family out of Singapore.

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              • lee_ylL Offline
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                lee_yl\" post_id=\"2041193\" time=\"1633534316\" user_id=\"17023:


                Our death rates are also growing exponentially month on month:

                August = 18
                Sept = 40
                Oct = 33 for first 5 days.
                Likely to hit 160+ for this month of Oct.

                How about Nov? Worst case could hit 160 X 8 = 1280 deaths!
                Retrieved an old post dated a week ago, 07 Oct 21.

                My estimate of 160 deaths for the month of October is sadly going to be exceeded.

                At this rate, we may well see a thousand deaths in November.

                I hope the two young persons (23yo and 34yo) who passed on today are the rare exceptions, if not, it will get many people worried, including yours truly.

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                • EstéemaE Offline
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                  lee_yl\" post_id=\"2042275\" time=\"1634225574\" user_id=\"17023:

                  Estéema\" post_id=\"2042263\" time=\"1634220307\" user_id=\"66413:

                  [quote=MrsKiasu post_id=2042259 time=1634219211 user_id=43981]I guess mostly for family reunion also else feel stressful for this kind of holidays.

                  Costly holidays. With all the tests, insurance etc.

                  Agree. Most families unlikely to travel with very young kids in toll. Airfares & insurance costs hv gone up and the PCR tests for departure & returning hv to be taken in consideration. Most countries for VTL are in the Northern European/US countries in midst of winter whilst those going into summer are not accessible for tourists for this year. So, ya, travel in necessity basis.

                  Delta variant doesn’t care whether you travel out of necessity or for leisure.

                  But I am sure there are many Singaporeans out there who can’t wait to bring their family out of Singapore.[/quote]There are risks takers as much as those who wld gripe abt allowing unvax kids on board. Many who jumped on the VTL likely longing to reunite with families across borders, single/couples w/o kids or retirees who want the throw caution back their mind as YOLO 🤣

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                  • MrsKiasuM Offline
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                    Earlier days we have a lot more information…on places where cases go and also what the existing conditions right?


                    Then we say focus should be on severe illnesses/in icu. Will it be good if we can have that much information also on the current focus? It probably help to ‘scare’ some people ba…it may help some people to identify their own risk, on where they stand…coz now seems like if you are unvaccinated, if you are older you have more risk…nightly reports like showing more than that?

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                    • MrsKiasuM Offline
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                      zeit.\" post_id=\"2042267\" time=\"1634223417\" user_id=\"194295:

                      Estéema\" post_id=\"2042263\" time=\"1634220307\" user_id=\"66413:

                      [quote=MrsKiasu post_id=2042259 time=1634219211 user_id=43981]I guess mostly for family reunion also else feel stressful for this kind of holidays.

                      Costly holidays. With all the tests, insurance etc.

                      Agree. Most families unlikely to travel with very young kids in toll. Airfares & insurance costs hv gone up and the PCR tests for departure & returning hv to be taken in consideration. Most countries for VTL are in the Northern European/US countries in midst of winter whilst those going into summer are not accessible for tourists for this year. So, ya, travel in necessity basis.

                      If you have relatives/friends living there, it's not that stressful bah. Say if you kena positive 48hr pre-departure, my understanding is Germany govt only needs you to isolate at home/hotel* for 5 days; or 10 days for e.g. France & UK. The Schengen region is already quite chill liao.

                      It's Singapore's side, i.e. ICA that is anal and makes you stay for 14 days before they allow you to take a changed VTL flight home.

                      14 days, right? OK, fine. So I self-isolate at my relatives' house/rented apartment (must check if possible to isolate in separate room) for free for 5 days (no/mild symptoms in Germany's case), and thereafter, to kill time I shall train to other cities to jalan jalan till the 14th day to come back to Singapore, can?

                      I feel it's people who have no contacts in the VTL countries that will feel stressful as they have to spend a bomb on extended hotel stay, but of course part of it can be defrayed by your insurer lah.


                      *Most EU countries don't have GQFs anymore; they just let you isolate at home/hotel. But if u kena Covid in ROK upon arrival or pre-departure, be prepared to stay in their GQF.[/quote] :spank: got it still go to people's house arh? Wait they lock the door 😂

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                      • starlight1968sgS Offline
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                        Just tired with the number of new cases and deaths…

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