2022 PSLE Discussions & Strategies (born in 2010)

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Liew Nga Wing\" post_id=\"2044264\" time=\"1635645360\" user_id=\"195250:[quote=\"Liew Nga Wing\" post_id=2044264 time=1635645360 user_id=195250]

Zeal mummy\" post_id=\"2044249\" time=\"1635623273\" user_id=\"58173:[quote=\"Zeal mummy\" post_id=2044249 time=1635623273 user_id=58173][quote=\"Liew Nga Wing\" post_id=2044247 time=1635615770 user_id=195250]
To my understanding, the final 8 students having same citizenship and same choice order may score for example, from 91 to 99 and rated at the same level. Because of the computer balloting, the 5 students who finally get the place in their dream school may score 91 to 95 but the 3 unsuccessful students may score 96 to 99. And therefore this is the unfairness of the new system.[/quote]

Not many things in this world is fair and square. The o-levels function the same way as well, do we say that it’s unfair too?[/quote]

Although there are many unfair things or systems in the world, we still hope that our examination system could be fair and just.[/quote]Going through half lifetime, have learnt that nothing is absolute. Who is to say, it's unfair. It can be a chance too, a door open to new opportunities for the kid who was ballot out. Always in the shadows of others. A blessing in disguise.
Personally, I have seen enough of such turnaround cases.

[lee_yl]

Zeal mummy\" post_id=\"2044250\" time=\"1635623428\" user_id=\"58173:[quote=\"Zeal mummy\" post_id=2044250 time=1635623428 user_id=58173]

lee_yl\" post_id=\"2044188\" time=\"1635570539\" user_id=\"17023:

ST Smart Parenting Webinar on New PSLE scoring system was today.

Based on what I gather, papers for our kiddo will not be very easy next time as the papers will have combination of hard, avg and easy questions. This will then form a natural bell curve like the old scoring system(except this is based on students’ sampling scores for each cohort). And the hard qns will definitely be there to sieve out the good, average and weaker ones.

I guess that our batch will most likely not have the luxury of taking out the last common topics. Understand some P5 may not have completed all the P5 topics. So sch will have to do some catching up now. And for the rest who completed, some will start covering p6 topics now.

IMHO, this new scoring system is definitely more stressful compared to the older one. Not sure why MOE think otherwise. Will our kiddos chase for that 1 more point to score a better AL? Isn’t this obvious?

I mean all the average and above students will definitely try to attempt those difficult questions, right? Then many of them will cry, like the Helen & Ivan question.

Removed the t-score old bell curve, now set a new arbitrary bell curve?! 😂

At first thought new AL sort of aim to spread the good students around, so it’s back to bell curve again.

When MOE and the citizens think differently, it means MOE is out of touch with the ground. Don’t mind if I say this, the 1st batch of kids who went through AL banding already cried until some need to see school counselors (as reported in ST), then it shows AL banding does not help in reducing psle stress for both parents and child. Not to mention the secondary school posting stress

Some form of stress is at times, necessary. The crying that had been reported was not due to the AL system. I see it as a separate issue.[/quote]So crying is due to the difficulty of the papers?

Are you sure not due to AL banding? One mark less in every paper taken can cause an AL4 pointer to become AL8 pointer. I think there is some relation.

Do you think the new AL banding has reduced PSLE stress for both parents and students?

[lee_yl]

laughingcat\" post_id=\"2044209\" time=\"1635579354\" user_id=\"3309:

With or without any system, the exam papers are being set with different degree of difficulty, so much so that inherently a natural bell curve resulted.

Then might as well keep the old T-score?

MOE has forgotten the objective of AL banding; to test the competency of the students at 12 and not to compare and compete with others within the cohort. If just to meet minimum competency, then set papers at just a min standard will do.

So, now the hard questions are there, the hard questions, I suppose will differentiate the AL1 students for the top schools. So long we need to rely on PSLE to sort students into different sec schools, we will forever be trapped in this logic.

[Zeal mummy]

lee_yl\" post_id=\"2044269\" time=\"1635648352\" user_id=\"17023:

Zeal mummy\" post_id=\"2044250\" time=\"1635623428\" user_id=\"58173:[quote=\"Zeal mummy\" post_id=2044250 time=1635623428 user_id=58173]

I mean all the average and above students will definitely try to attempt those difficult questions, right? Then many of them will cry, like the Helen & Ivan question.

Removed the t-score old bell curve, now set a new arbitrary bell curve?! 😂

At first thought new AL sort of aim to spread the good students around, so it’s back to bell curve again.

When MOE and the citizens think differently, it means MOE is out of touch with the ground. Don’t mind if I say this, the 1st batch of kids who went through AL banding already cried until some need to see school counselors (as reported in ST), then it shows AL banding does not help in reducing psle stress for both parents and child. Not to mention the secondary school posting stress

Some form of stress is at times, necessary. The crying that had been reported was not due to the AL system. I see it as a separate issue.

So crying is due to the difficulty of the papers?

Are you sure not due to AL banding? One mark less in every paper taken can cause an AL4 pointer to become AL8 pointer. I think there is some relation.

Do you think the new AL banding has reduced PSLE stress for both parents and students?[/quote]Do you think they wouldn’t had cried, if it was with the old t-score? They would have still cried. Cos they can’t do the questions. (Personally I felt the questions weren’t particularly hard) but I can empathize that if you can’t do it after working real hard, you would need to let off some steam by crying/venting/ranting. It’s probably due to the immediate stresses after completing the paper and feeling like you can do better.

[Zeal mummy]

00skyblue00\" post_id=\"2044268\" time=\"1635648276\" user_id=\"143605:

Liew Nga Wing\" post_id=\"2044264\" time=\"1635645360\" user_id=\"195250:[quote=\"Liew Nga Wing\" post_id=2044264 time=1635645360 user_id=195250][quote=\"Zeal mummy\" post_id=2044249 time=1635623273 user_id=58173]

Not many things in this world is fair and square. The o-levels function the same way as well, do we say that it’s unfair too?

Although there are many unfair things or systems in the world, we still hope that our examination system could be fair and just.[/quote]

Going through half lifetime, have learnt that nothing is absolute. Who is to say, it's unfair. It can be a chance too, a door open to new opportunities for the kid who was ballot out. Always in the shadows of others. A blessing in disguise.
Personally, I have seen enough of such turnaround cases.[/quote]I agree with you.

[Zeal mummy]

ChiefKiasu\" post_id=\"2044260\" time=\"1635642541\" user_id=\"3:

Zeal mummy\" post_id=\"2044248\" time=\"1635623192\" user_id=\"58173:[quote=\"Zeal mummy\" post_id=2044248 time=1635623192 user_id=58173]The beauty of it all is that nobody will know who did slightly better or worse.

I know... but the problem is, for those balloted out, there is always this \"unfair\" feeling for the rest of their lives. Oh well, it's just the PSLE. As we all know, there is much bigger fish to fry.[/quote]

If you don’t know if you did slight better or worse (upper or lower tier of the banding), then you wouldn’t know that it had been fair or unfair. You could be the lucky one? On the same page, as parents we should encourage our children to do their best.. and not to speak of fairness in every system. We play the game, the way the game is played.

[Liew Nga Wing]

00skyblue00\" post_id=\"2044268\" time=\"1635648276\" user_id=\"143605:

Liew Nga Wing\" post_id=\"2044264\" time=\"1635645360\" user_id=\"195250:[quote=\"Liew Nga Wing\" post_id=2044264 time=1635645360 user_id=195250][quote=\"Zeal mummy\" post_id=2044249 time=1635623273 user_id=58173]

Not many things in this world is fair and square. The o-levels function the same way as well, do we say that it’s unfair too?

Although there are many unfair things or systems in the world, we still hope that our examination system could be fair and just.[/quote]

Going through half lifetime, have learnt that nothing is absolute. Who is to say, it's unfair. It can be a chance too, a door open to new opportunities for the kid who was ballot out. Always in the shadows of others. A blessing in disguise.
Personally, I have seen enough of such turnaround cases.[/quote]It will always be some unhappy and disappointing feeling for those balloted out. Not everyone can... in Chinese we say \"看得开\" look at a larger picture and agree with \" 塞翁失马，焉知非福\"。

[Zeal mummy]

Liew Nga Wing\" post_id=\"2044343\" time=\"1635678193\" user_id=\"195250:[quote=\"Liew Nga Wing\" post_id=2044343 time=1635678193 user_id=195250]

00skyblue00\" post_id=\"2044268\" time=\"1635648276\" user_id=\"143605:

[quote=\"Liew Nga Wing\" post_id=2044264 time=1635645360 user_id=195250]
Although there are many unfair things or systems in the world, we still hope that our examination system could be fair and just.

Going through half lifetime, have learnt that nothing is absolute. Who is to say, it's unfair. It can be a chance too, a door open to new opportunities for the kid who was ballot out. Always in the shadows of others. A blessing in disguise.
Personally, I have seen enough of such turnaround cases.[/quote]

It will always be some unhappy and disappointing feeling for those balloted out. Not everyone can... in Chinese we say \"看得开\" look at a larger picture and agree with \" 塞翁失马，焉知非福\"。[/quote]Yeah, exactly! Plenty of cases where it’s a blessing in disguise.

[lee_yl]

Zeal mummy\" post_id=\"2044324\" time=\"1635671953\" user_id=\"58173:[quote=\"Zeal mummy\" post_id=2044324 time=1635671953 user_id=58173]

lee_yl\" post_id=\"2044269\" time=\"1635648352\" user_id=\"17023:

Do you think they wouldn’t had cried, if it was with the old t-score? They would have still cried. Cos they can’t do the questions. (Personally I felt the questions weren’t particularly hard) but I can empathize that if you can’t do it after working real hard, you would need to let off some steam by crying/venting/ranting. It’s probably due to the immediate stresses after completing the paper and feeling like you can do better.

If under the new AL banding and old t-score, the students would still have cried, then why bother to do a reform (to the new AL banding)?

[Zeal mummy]

lee_yl\" post_id=\"2044353\" time=\"1635683083\" user_id=\"17023:

Zeal mummy\" post_id=\"2044324\" time=\"1635671953\" user_id=\"58173:[quote=\"Zeal mummy\" post_id=2044324 time=1635671953 user_id=58173]

If under the new AL banding and old t-score, the students would still have cried, then why bother to do a reform (to the new AL banding)?

That’s why I said it’s a separate issue.