2022 PSLE Discussions & Strategies (born in 2010)
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Whether it is t-scores or AL-scores… PSLE is definitely stressful for the child. Better for us to concentrate on building up the child’s tenacity than to debate on which is more "stressful".
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lee_yl\" post_id=\"2044353\" time=\"1635683083\" user_id=\"17023:
Zeal mummy\" post_id=\"2044324\" time=\"1635671953\" user_id=\"58173:[quote=\"Zeal mummy\" post_id=2044324 time=1635671953 user_id=58173]
If under the new AL banding and old t-score, the students would still have cried, then why bother to do a reform (to the new AL banding)?AL system and PSLE paper standard are 2 different things. Just because its AL system, it doesn't mean PSLE paper should be set artificially easy so that 50% of the cohort will end up balloting -
Veyron\" post_id=\"2044445\" time=\"1635763091\" user_id=\"30663:
Isn’t the whole idea of a reform is to help lessen the PSLE stress for both parents and child? And if possible, to be less elitist in our approach to education?
AL system and PSLE paper standard are 2 different things. Just because its AL system, it doesn't mean PSLE paper should be set artificially easy so that 50% of the cohort will end up ballotinglee_yl\" post_id=\"2044353\" time=\"1635683083\" user_id=\"17023:
If under the new AL banding and old t-score, the students would still have cried, then why bother to do a reform (to the new AL banding)?
Why cannot have more balloting for top schools? If all those who meet COP of RI (say, AL6) has to enter balloting altogether, then there is no need to try to score AL4 points as the student will still be subject to balloting. As it is, at AL4 it is almost certain that a student can get into any secondary school of his choice which causes students to chase for every mark.
And of cos, there are some parents who cannot accept that their children, being the top students, will be subject to balloting, thus we are stuck in this situation. -
lee_yl\" post_id=\"2044451\" time=\"1635767396\" user_id=\"17023:
Isn’t the whole idea of a reform is to help lessen the PSLE stress for both parents and child? And if possible, to be less elitist in our approach to education?
AL system and PSLE paper standard are 2 different things. Just because its AL system, it doesn't mean PSLE paper should be set artificially easy so that 50% of the cohort will end up ballotingVeyron\" post_id=\"2044445\" time=\"1635763091\" user_id=\"30663:
[quote=lee_yl post_id=2044353 time=1635683083 user_id=17023]If under the new AL banding and old t-score, the students would still have cried, then why bother to do a reform (to the new AL banding)?
Why cannot have more balloting for top schools? If all those who meet COP of RI (say, AL6) has to enter balloting altogether, then there is no need to try to score AL4 points as the student will still be subject to balloting. As it is, at AL4 it is almost certain that a student can get into any secondary school of his choice which causes students to chase for every mark.
And of cos, there are some parents who cannot accept that their children, being the top students, will be subject to balloting, thus we are stuck in this situation.[/quote]There are many different types of public examinations all over the world, e.g. GCE \"O\" and \"A\" Level, Tofle, LCCI, ACCA...etc...and all causing different level of stress to the candidates and their family members. We cannot just want to reduce the stress of exam, then go balloting to decide who can further their study and who cannot by luck.
Just think, when there are 2 ladies fighting for a secretary post, even they may be having more or less same LCCI exam result, the boss will not use balloting to decide whom he want to employ. -
Extracted from MOE's https://www.moe.gov.sg/microsites/psle-fsbb/psle/main.html
The revised PSLE scoring system in 2021 will help your child focus on their learning instead of how they compare to others. -
Liew Nga Wing\" post_id=\"2044467\" time=\"1635777489\" user_id=\"195250:[quote=\"Liew Nga Wing\" post_id=2044467 time=1635777489 user_id=195250]
Take TOFEL or LCCI at what age? 18yo?lee_yl\" post_id=\"2044451\" time=\"1635767396\" user_id=\"17023:There are many different types of public examinations all over the world, e.g. GCE \"O\" and \"A\" Level, Tofle, LCCI, ACCA...etc...and all causing different level of stress to the candidates and their family members. We cannot just want to reduce the stress of exam, then go balloting to decide who can further their study and who cannot by luck.
Just think, when there are 2 ladies fighting for a secretary post, even they may be having more or less same LCCI exam result, the boss will not use balloting to decide whom he want to employ.
30yo also can take LCCI or ACCA.
At what age does a child take PSLE? 12 year old.
The maturity level is different! And we are only talking about balloting for schools and not passing the exams.
After all, the PSLE reform is supposed to help remove undue stress from 12 year old children. Singapore has the dubious honor of organising an important national exam for kids at such a young age.
Now, we all know, the papers will be set with easy, average and difficult questions. And in order avoid balloting at AL6 for top IP schools, students must do well to score AL4 or AL5 to give them guaranteed entry into top IP schools (COP AL6 and below). Worse still, unlike tscore where strong subjects can compensate for a weaker subject, AL banding requires equally strong results in all the subjects to have either AL4 or AL5. The stress level won’t be reduced -
On a different track. I took the TOEFL and SAT English papers when I was 19, and I think that was my first experience with racism. The papers were instrumented in such a way that it was very difficult for a non-American-born person to actually do well in the tests. Left a bad taste in my mouth.
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I took my TOFEL English papers when I was 20 but found the papers are OK for me. I managed to get a good result from it and always remember the joy when the notification of result was received.
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lee_yl\" post_id=\"2044451\" time=\"1635767396\" user_id=\"17023:
Isn’t the whole idea of a reform is to help lessen the PSLE stress for both parents and child? And if possible, to be less elitist in our approach to education?
AL system and PSLE paper standard are 2 different things. Just because its AL system, it doesn't mean PSLE paper should be set artificially easy so that 50% of the cohort will end up ballotingVeyron\" post_id=\"2044445\" time=\"1635763091\" user_id=\"30663:
[quote=lee_yl post_id=2044353 time=1635683083 user_id=17023]If under the new AL banding and old t-score, the students would still have cried, then why bother to do a reform (to the new AL banding)?
Why cannot have more balloting for top schools? If all those who meet COP of RI (say, AL6) has to enter balloting altogether, then there is no need to try to score AL4 points as the student will still be subject to balloting. As it is, at AL4 it is almost certain that a student can get into any secondary school of his choice which causes students to chase for every mark.
And of cos, there are some parents who cannot accept that their children, being the top students, will be subject to balloting, thus we are stuck in this situation.[/quote]The stress from PSLE actually arises from parents' desire to send their children to the top secondary schools of their choice. As long as the desire is there, there will always be stress regardless of which exam system as demand will always outstrip supply.
So if parents wish to be less stressful or stress-free PSLE, then be contented with whatever secondary school the PSLE result offers. Under the AL system, it should be less stressful because there are now more choices -
Veyron\" post_id=\"2044520\" time=\"1635831746\" user_id=\"30663:
Actually, we tend to blame parents. But these are P6 kids, on the cusp of the teenage angst of \"disobedience\". I'm sure you can find many kids who knows what they want, by P6, and to go against them is to beat ourselves against an immovable wall.
The stress from PSLE actually arises from parents' desire to send their children to the top secondary schools of their choice. As long as the desire is there, there will always be stress regardless of which exam system as demand will always outstrip supply.
So if parents wish to be less stressful or stress-free PSLE, then be contented with whatever secondary school the PSLE result offers. Under the AL system, it should be less stressful because there are now more choices
You say \"Under the AL system, it should be less stressful because there are now more choices\". Why is that so? How is this choice distributed now? I'm curious.
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