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    Corona Virus Disease (COVID-19) Updates

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    • Z Offline
      zeit.033699
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      You're still on MINDSVILLE after so many months? Thought I'd already said MINDSVILLE's a classic microcosm of a 90% fully vaccinated community sans universal masks and SMMs.


      That is the kind of unbridled spike you'd expect if all masks were removed in our actual larger community*. And if I may add that at the point of the outbreak, there were about 80% UNvaccinated visitors/counsellors/volunteers/physiotherapists/doctors/family from the larger community regularly entering the otherwise safe sanctuary of MINDSVILLE.

      There's helluva diff if you don't don masks. See the red spike.

      https://i.imgur.com/Emvlgac.png\">


      *NB: slmkhoo's clarified that residents in there don't don masks (there's wading pool, dorms/shower rooms for adults with special needs). Also, some caregivers/minders might not always don masks cos maybe special needs residents can't recognise their masked faces. Recall a case of a young resident throwing tantrums during a swab test by some unfamiliar, intimidating PPE-clad swabbers.

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      • zac's mumZ Offline
        zac's mum
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        So the child in the ICU is true (4 years old):


        More info here:
        https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/4-rare-cases-multi-system-inflammatory-syndrome-kids-found-date-moh-2295971

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          ngl2010
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          zac's mum\" post_id=\"2045246\" time=\"1636244720\" user_id=\"53606:[quote=\"zac's mum\" post_id=2045246 time=1636244720 user_id=53606]
          So the child in the ICU is true (4 years old):

          More info here:
          https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/4-rare-cases-multi-system-inflammatory-syndrome-kids-found-date-moh-2295971[/quote]
          Yes. So poor thing :sad:

          There is another boy. The 8-year old one. The newspapers said he was in ICU from 27 Oct to 1 Nov but already discharged.

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          • ChiefKiasuC Offline
            ChiefKiasu
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            My goodness. It is sad. I’m just wondering, will a baby get infected inside the womb of a mother stricken with COVID? And if the mother gets vaccinated, will the baby be "vaccinated" too? Hmm…

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            • zac's mumZ Offline
              zac's mum
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              ChiefKiasu\" post_id=\"2045251\" time=\"1636247864\" user_id=\"3:

              My goodness. It is sad. I'm just wondering, will a baby get infected inside the womb of a mother stricken with COVID? And if the mother gets vaccinated, will the baby be \"vaccinated\" too? Hmm...
              If I recall my Biology lessons correctly, yes the antibodies will be passed from mother to baby via the umbilical cord/blood stream.

              If not, then breastfeeding after baby is born will pass along the antibodies too.

              The 2-month old is recovering well after out of ICU I hope.

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              • MrsKiasuM Offline
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                I heard one case from neighbouring country. Pregnant mom doesn’t know she got covid but can’t remember due to what problem went to see doctor. Doctor did a test and told her she contracted covid and advised her to go for Caesarean. Baby don’t have covid and new mom is well but have to be isolated.

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                • sharonkhooS Offline
                  sharonkhoo
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                  ChiefKiasu\" post_id=\"2045251\" time=\"1636247864\" user_id=\"3:

                  My goodness. It is sad. I'm just wondering, will a baby get infected inside the womb of a mother stricken with COVID? And if the mother gets vaccinated, will the baby be \"vaccinated\" too? Hmm...
                  From KKH: https://www.kkh.com.sg/patient-care/Pages/COVID-19-Vaccination.aspx
                  KKH advises pregnant women to seek COVID-19 vaccination from 13 weeks of pregnancy as there are severe risks involved if infected with the virus, compared to non-pregnant women. Some of these risks involve the development of serious complications which increases pregnant women’s risk of needing intensive care unit (ICU) care and invasive ventilation, as well as developing potentially lethal complications like deep vein thrombosis and pulmonary embolism. They also have a doubled risk of preterm birth if they are symptomatic, and these babies may require neonatal ICU care.

                  The mRNA vaccines have been shown to generate antibody production in both pregnant and breastfeeding women. These antibodies are transferred passively across the placenta to the baby antenatally or before birth, and antibodies have also been detected in breastmilk after vaccination. While the exact nature and extent of protection for the babies remains to be ascertained, these findings are promising.

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                    Pebbly
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                    All the 4 cases listed in the cna article had a re-admission to hospital or an admission after a recovery at home. So parents should continue to observe their children even after they recover from the initial bout of Covid.

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                      pirate
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                      zeit.\" post_id=\"2045190\" time=\"1636191876\" user_id=\"194295:

                      You're still on MINDSVILLE after so many months? Thought I'd already said MINDSVILLE's a classic microcosm of a 90% fully vaccinated community sans universal masks and SMMs.

                      That is the kind of unbridled spike you'd expect if all masks were removed in our actual larger community*. And if I may add that at the point of the outbreak, there were about 80% UNvaccinated visitors/counsellors/volunteers/physiotherapists/doctors/family from the larger community regularly entering the otherwise safe sanctuary of MINDSVILLE.

                      There's helluva diff if you don't don masks. See the red spike.

                      https://i.imgur.com/Emvlgac.png\">


                      *NB: slmkhoo's clarified that residents in there don't don masks (there's wading pool, dorms/shower rooms for adults with special needs). Also, some caregivers/minders might not always don masks cos maybe special needs residents can't recognise their masked faces. Recall a case of a young resident throwing tantrums during a swab test by some unfamiliar, intimidating PPE-clad swabbers.
                      Seriously. The boat has already long sailed that our vaccines are not effective against transmission of the Delta strain. Our entire regime is now premised on our vaccines offering very little protection against transmission and infection. The focus has already shifted to vaccination offering protection against severity of the illness when infected.

                      You are still hawking alternative interpretations of that set of data after all these months?

                      The writing was on the wall then. Our experts should have seen it for what it was, instead of relying on sophistry to try to explain why what was on the wall was not writing, even after Bukit Merah View. They forgot Occam's razor

                      Like I said then, it is not 20/20 hindsight when others have pointed it out to you back then but you chose to ignore it.

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                        zac's mum\" post_id=\"2045252\" time=\"1636248274\" user_id=\"53606:[quote=\"zac's mum\" post_id=2045252 time=1636248274 user_id=53606]
                        ChiefKiasu\" post_id=\"2045251\" time=\"1636247864\" user_id=\"3:
                        My goodness. It is sad. I'm just wondering, will a baby get infected inside the womb of a mother stricken with COVID? And if the mother gets vaccinated, will the baby be \"vaccinated\" too? Hmm...
                        If I recall my Biology lessons correctly, yes the antibodies will be passed from mother to baby via the umbilical cord/blood stream.

                        If not, then breastfeeding after baby is born will pass along the antibodies too.

                        The 2-month old is recovering well after out of ICU I hope.[/quote]
                        It’s so sad when very young children catches covid as they’ll nvr live normally w/I health issues following the rest of their lives. It’s also devastating for parents to see their child suffering it & I’m sure the health carerers gets a brunt of it somehow. Just pray they’ll all be given heavenly mercy & recover well with proper medical treatment. 🙏🏻

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