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    • MrsKiasuM Offline
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      Zeal mummy\" post_id=\"2045267\" time=\"1636253490\" user_id=\"58173:[quote=\"Zeal mummy\" post_id=2045267 time=1636253490 user_id=58173]
      MrsKiasu\" post_id=\"2045254\" time=\"1636249098\" user_id=\"43981:
      I’ll say physics tuition was quite popular during my time, especially if ur math is not strong. It can become rather daunting working on those questions without help. Recent years, I see more teens having chemistry tuition.. as more attention is focused on chem being the compulsory subject to have for entry to many courses in uni… as biology is no longer a requirement. The child can choose either chemistry or physic tuition, if she/he wants to. Is child leaning towards engineering (phy) or research (chem)?

      I can’t speak for history.. my teenager seem to know which one of the humanities to drop already. I’m struggling to accept. Lol.

      P.s. my children do not have tuition, except for on-and-off Mandarin enrichment classes. We are a English speaking family.
      Thanks zealmum..

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      • MrsKiasuM Offline
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        slmkhoo\" post_id=\"2045269\" time=\"1636253745\" user_id=\"28674:

        MrsKiasu\" post_id=\"2045261\" time=\"1636251119\" user_id=\"43981:

        Thanks slmkhoo! My worries always that she couldn't catch the 'skills'..ever told me her tuition during Pri time is a waste of money. She is very eager to try on her own but somehow I feel just worry ..

        There is another alternative - something like \"master classes\". School teachers may devote time to teaching these skills, but not all students pay attention or practise the skills! Just listening to the instruction won't improve their skills. You can also find a tutor for a limited no. of sessions just to deal with these skills, but again, the child must actually practise and refine the skills. There's no necessity for weekly tuition unless the child needs a tutor to impose discipline.

        Didn't know there is such thing..ok thanks

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        • MrsKiasuM Offline
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          Liew Nga Wing\" post_id=\"2045273\" time=\"1636255188\" user_id=\"195250:[quote=\"Liew Nga Wing\" post_id=2045273 time=1636255188 user_id=195250]
          To me, it is a pity that taking up a subject to study and going for tuition is just to see which questions to be likely in the coming exam papers and how to answer in order to score a high mark.....not really interest to learn the knowledge.

          Is it the aim for going to school and tuition?

          My previous history teacher played a trick on us. She told us that our exam questions would only on those topics before 1945 even though she also taught us the Cold War between the USA and the USSR in 1960s. However, the exam came out with all questions on the \"Cold War\" and most of my classmates failed the exam. I managed to pass the exam with high score because I loved History and I even studied on the topics which were not likely included in the exam.

          This is what my History teacher wanted to teach us...don't anyhow control by exam.....[/quote]
          I think now different from at least my time..no tuition can get few As..

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          • Zeal mummyZ Offline
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            Upper secondary History - content wise, it's new content. However, the skills required for Source Based Questions (SBQ) will be a built up from what has been taught in lower sec so it is necessary for the students to have a good grasp of the answering skills taught in lower secondary.
            Thanks for the information, Swc. Is sec 2 history content the extension of sec 1’s work?

            Edited: SBQ wasn’t difficult, scored well for that. Apparently SBQ no need to study, or so someone says? Hmm…

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            • MrsKiasuM Offline
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              Mommies, do you all really get into the subject contents in order to help the kids?

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              • Zeal mummyZ Offline
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                [quote=\"Zeal mummy\" post_id=2045239 time=1636216078 user_id=58173]

                In the ideal world yes, in the real world ..somethings got to give. They can love all 3 humanities but only have time to study for 1-2.

                How much of lower sec history is built up towards upper sec and to JC? Are they related?

                Upper secondary History - content wise, it's new content. However, the skills required for Source Based Questions (SBQ) will be a built up from what has been taught in lower sec so it is necessary for the students to have a good grasp of the answering skills taught in lower secondary.

                To add on, believe most schools will not demand that you take upper sec History to offer History at A levels, but certainly the foundation will help give the child a headstart.[/quote]Thanks, good information… may I ask any recommendations for sec 2 history please? Survive one more year first then see how.

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                • Zeal mummyZ Offline
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                  Mommies, do you all really get into the subject contents in order to help the kids?
                  No I don’t..

                  Edit: just want to clarify that we are talking about secondary school subject contents. That I don’t as I’m old and can’t remember most of the difficult things. If I do, I’ve to re-learn it.

                  .. For primary, I do as it’s things I already know. And it’s easy peasy.

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                    MrsKiasu\" post_id=\"2045288\" time=\"1636260450\" user_id=\"43981:

                    slmkhoo\" post_id=\"2045269\" time=\"1636253745\" user_id=\"28674:

                    [quote=MrsKiasu post_id=2045261 time=1636251119 user_id=43981]Thanks slmkhoo! My worries always that she couldn't catch the 'skills'..ever told me her tuition during Pri time is a waste of money. She is very eager to try on her own but somehow I feel just worry ..

                    There is another alternative - something like \"master classes\". School teachers may devote time to teaching these skills, but not all students pay attention or practise the skills! Just listening to the instruction won't improve their skills. You can also find a tutor for a limited no. of sessions just to deal with these skills, but again, the child must actually practise and refine the skills. There's no necessity for weekly tuition unless the child needs a tutor to impose discipline.

                    Didn't know there is such thing..ok thanks[/quote]Not all tutors will do this, I think. I expect the per hour rate will be higher. But I've seen ads for such classes during the longer school holidays - just 2-4 sessions on a specific subject, or specific topics or skills.

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                      MrsKiasu\" post_id=\"2045301\" time=\"1636263103\" user_id=\"43981:
                      No I don’t..
                      It depends on how much help the child needs. For one child, we only talked about the \"meta\" things - like how to approach studying, study habits, ways to seek help if needed, etc. My job was more to just provide food, clean clothes and a sounding board. It does help when the parent can understand the subject a bit, at least enough to ask the occasional intelligent question!

                      For the other child, who was weaker and less motivated, yet, I got into everything (except Maths - but my husband had to help in that). In earlier years when content was less difficult, I was more focused on discipline and how to study (but also needed to drill a bit into the content), but as she went up in the years, I was coaching more of the content as well. Luckily, for her A levels, she took Geog (one of my strong subjects), Lit (she had a great teacher, and I also read all her texts so I could discuss with her), and GP was one of my better subjects too. Maths was my husband's job, and for her Management, I could help a bit, but we mainly told her - just pass it! There is only so much time available, and in lower sec when there are so many subjects, you probably have to choose to focus on the weakest subjects. It's not possible to focus on many subjects at once.

                      To get back on topic, for History, you can just read her textbook, and maybe an article or 2, or wikipedia! Just so you can talk to her about the topics, and point her in the right direction. Because even to help her in SBQ or whatever, you need to know a bit of the content otherwise it's very hard to discuss anything useful.

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                      • MrsKiasuM Offline
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                        Zeal mummy\" post_id=\"2045305\" time=\"1636264875\" user_id=\"58173:[quote=\"Zeal mummy\" post_id=2045305 time=1636264875 user_id=58173]

                        It depends on how much help the child needs. For one child, we only talked about the \"meta\" things - like how to approach studying, study habits, ways to seek help if needed, etc. My job was more to just provide food, clean clothes and a sounding board. It does help when the parent can understand the subject a bit, at least enough to ask the occasional intelligent question!

                        For the other child, who was weaker and less motivated, yet, I got into everything (except Maths - but my husband had to help in that). In earlier years when content was less difficult, I was more focused on discipline and how to study (but also needed to drill a bit into the content), but as she went up in the years, I was coaching more of the content as well. Luckily, for her A levels, she took Geog (one of my strong subjects), Lit (she had a great teacher, and I also read all her texts so I could discuss with her), and GP was one of my better subjects too. Maths was my husband's job, and for her Management, I could help a bit, but we mainly told her - just pass it! There is only so much time available, and in lower sec when there are so many subjects, you probably have to choose to focus on the weakest subjects. It's not possible to focus on many subjects at once.

                        To get back on topic, for History, you can just read her textbook, and maybe an article or 2, or wikipedia! Just so you can talk to her about the topics, and point her in the right direction. Because even to help her in SBQ or whatever, you need to know a bit of the content otherwise it's very hard to discuss anything useful.

                        I would love to know the subject so can direct her but just by thinking of it I feel it like a very big project. But dont think she would like me to put my leg in also.. just that I would like to see how can help her.

                        I do offer my help for Maths tho but she never take it..not that I know/remember how to do it..but I thought if she needs my help then I can straight away zoom into that particular section and learn etc..that's easier for Maths but not for most other subj where I think must have head and tail.

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