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    Corona Virus Disease (COVID-19) Updates

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    • MrsKiasuM Offline
      MrsKiasu
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      I think will be kids turn soon…

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      • MrsKiasuM Offline
        MrsKiasu
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        zac's mum\" post_id=\"2045449\" time=\"1636373262\" user_id=\"53606:[quote=\"zac's mum\" post_id=2045449 time=1636373262 user_id=53606]
        My P5 just took his Diptheria 3rd shot in school today. The entire class except 1-2 kids got very sore arms within 30min. A couple of them had fever earlier this evening but it has subsided.

        Didn’t even recall having these symptoms during my time, but I guess now we’re more alert to such things.

        I think they’re all quite open to getting the Covid vaccine next year.[/quote]
        I never take notice also..usually as per normal whatever jab due just take..dd never feedback I also never ask.

        But HPV as too near to vaccination, yes I asked to defer.

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        • D Offline
          Dreamaurora
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          sevenseals\" post_id=\"2045418\" time=\"1636358001\" user_id=\"124401:

          sevenseals\" post_id=\"2045130\" time=\"1636168040\" user_id=\"124401:

          doctors suffer emotional pain when they see their patients die in their watch,
          especially if they know there is a cure in other countries but is not accessible here.

          Some of the doctors resign because they see so many deaths still 17 per day and cannot do anything about it other than just giving panadol, oxygen, which are not treatments at all. Even the steroids given are very weak. What happen to the Regeneron announced in Sept that it would be available in Oct.

          They were thinking why would they need doctors just to see patients die, paramedics can do the job. A doctor should be given leeway to administer medicines (which are available elsewhere, but not allowed in sg), otherwise they feel the blood of the dead on their hands.

          First of all, is this just an anecdote or do you have a first hand account of doctors who actually resign because your said reason? Because what you just said is really tantamount to putting words in these doctors' mouths.

          I can't believe you are suggesting that doctors should be allowed to circumvent proper medical protocol and administer unapproved medicine just to obey their conscience. In fact, one of the reasons the medical care over here is world class is because it is heavily regulated to prevent rogue treatments that might have adverse consequences. Yes, you might argue that medicine like Ivermectin might have some anecdotal success in countries such as India. But medicine cannot be approved for professional medical use based on anecdotal evidence, they have proper clinical trials that often take years to conduct. This Covid pandemic is unprecedented, it is the only reason why the process to research and approve new anti-Covid drugs are accelerated.

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          • Liew Nga WingL Offline
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            Dreamaurora\" post_id=\"2045472\" time=\"1636382461\" user_id=\"38907:

            sevenseals\" post_id=\"2045418\" time=\"1636358001\" user_id=\"124401:

            [quote=sevenseals post_id=2045130 time=1636168040 user_id=124401]doctors suffer emotional pain when they see their patients die in their watch,
            especially if they know there is a cure in other countries but is not accessible here.

            Some of the doctors resign because they see so many deaths still 17 per day and cannot do anything about it other than just giving panadol, oxygen, which are not treatments at all. Even the steroids given are very weak. What happen to the Regeneron announced in Sept that it would be available in Oct.

            They were thinking why would they need doctors just to see patients die, paramedics can do the job. A doctor should be given leeway to administer medicines (which are available elsewhere, but not allowed in sg), otherwise they feel the blood of the dead on their hands.

            First of all, is this just an anecdote or do you have a first hand account of doctors who actually resign because your said reason? Because what you just said is really tantamount to putting words in these doctors' mouths.

            I can't believe you are suggesting that doctors should be allowed to circumvent proper medical protocol and administer unapproved medicine just to obey their conscience. In fact, one of the reasons the medical care over here is world class is because it is heavily regulated to prevent rogue treatments that might have adverse consequences. Yes, you might argue that medicine like Ivermectin might have some anecdotal success in countries such as India. But medicine cannot be approved for professional medical use based on anecdotal evidence, they have proper clinical trials that often take years to conduct. This Covid pandemic is unprecedented, it is the only reason why the process to research and approve new anti-Covid drugs are accelerated.[/quote]Different Doctors may have their own thinking ad we cannot say....no doctor has resigned due to the reason she stated early.

            She just wants to suggest whether the Government can consider more type of medicine to be used for tackling Covid 19.

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            • H Offline
              hblmama
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              Tonight, I am truly happy that my family can dine out together again!!!

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              • Zeal mummyZ Offline
                Zeal mummy
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                hblmama\" post_id=\"2045480\" time=\"1636386629\" user_id=\"195684:

                Tonight, I am truly happy that my family can dine out together again!!!
                Oh yes, me too! Family of 5 rejoices!

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                • sharonkhooS Offline
                  sharonkhoo
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                  Liew Nga Wing\" post_id=\"2045477\" time=\"1636385088\" user_id=\"195250:[quote=\"Liew Nga Wing\" post_id=2045477 time=1636385088 user_id=195250]
                  Dreamaurora\" post_id=\"2045472\" time=\"1636382461\" user_id=\"38907:

                  ... A doctor should be given leeway to administer medicines (which are available elsewhere, but not allowed in sg), otherwise they feel the blood of the dead on their hands.

                  ...I can't believe you are suggesting that doctors should be allowed to circumvent proper medical protocol and administer unapproved medicine just to obey their conscience. In fact, one of the reasons the medical care over here is world class is because it is heavily regulated to prevent rogue treatments that might have adverse consequences. Yes, you might argue that medicine like Ivermectin might have some anecdotal success in countries such as India. But medicine cannot be approved for professional medical use based on anecdotal evidence, they have proper clinical trials that often take years to conduct. This Covid pandemic is unprecedented, it is the only reason why the process to research and approve new anti-Covid drugs are accelerated.

                  ...She just wants to suggest whether the Government can consider more type of medicine to be used for tackling Covid 19.[/quote]I agree with Dreamaurora - new drugs are portentially dangerous, and I would want to know that sufficient care has been taken to trial them, and the trial results examined carefully. Unfortunately, this takes time to be done properly. I trust our medical people in Singapore that they will not wantonly withhold medication from use without good reason; and I also believe that they are working as fast as they can, with due regard for safety. Just during this pandemic alone, we have seen drugs touted by various people (doctors, politicians, who knows who else) as surefire cures, only to have them debunked after people had severe adverse reactions after unregulated use.

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                  • sharonkhooS Offline
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                    Zeal mummy\" post_id=\"2045487\" time=\"1636393089\" user_id=\"58173:[quote=\"Zeal mummy\" post_id=2045487 time=1636393089 user_id=58173]
                    hblmama\" post_id=\"2045480\" time=\"1636386629\" user_id=\"195684:
                    Oh yes, me too! Family of 5 rejoices!
                    But only if you eat in a restaurant. My family tends to eat at hawker centres, so it's still 2 tables of 2 for us. Luckily my kids are adult now and I don't need to keep an eye on them!

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                    • MrsKiasuM Offline
                      MrsKiasu
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                      My side will still continue dabao…

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                      • NebbermindN Offline
                        Nebbermind
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                        MrsKiasu\" post_id=\"2045524\" time=\"1636423160\" user_id=\"43981:

                        My side will still continue dabao..
                        Same. Not so keen to eat out these days. It's not just the risk of catching it but the real pain in the disruption to life from the home isolation/quarantine.

                        I heard of a case where the helper caught it, or was the first to bring it home and members of the family continued to test positive over the next 1 wk or so. So the whole household infection may pop up over a couple of weeks or so. It's like a time bomb...just waiting in anxiety.

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