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    Corona Virus Disease (COVID-19) Updates

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    • MrsKiasuM
      MrsKiasu
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      Zoom, share pictures and videos maybeโ€ฆ

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      • ChiefKiasuC
        ChiefKiasu
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        Liew Nga Wing\" post_id=\"2054847\" time=\"1641395099\" user_id=\"195250:[quote=\"Liew Nga Wing\" post_id=2054847 time=1641395099 user_id=195250]
        Mrs. Kiasu,
        I am total agree with you and really don't understand why the Chief thinks like that.
        ...[/quote]
        ?? Why I think like that? Maybe I just want to really test how effective the vaccines are... ๐Ÿ˜‚
        I'm an engineer, you know, who love to test out new things.

        Reminds me of the story of the 3 persons scheduled to die on the guillotine. The first 2 went through the guillotine face down but the blade did not drop. So they were saved because of \"divine intervention\".
        The 3rd one insisted to lie facing up. When the execution started and the blade did not drop again, he said:
        \"Ah... there! I see the problem!\"

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        • sharonkhooS
          sharonkhoo
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          ChiefKiasu\" post_id=\"2054873\" time=\"1641431860\" user_id=\"3:

          ?? Why I think like that? Maybe I just want to really test how effective the vaccines are... ๐Ÿ˜‚
          I'm an engineer, you know, who love to test out new things.

          Reminds me of the story of the 3 persons scheduled to die on the guillotine. The first 2 went through the guillotine face down but the blade did not drop. So they were saved because of \"divine intervention\".
          The 3rd one insisted to lie facing up. When the execution started and the blade did not drop again, he said:
          \"Ah... there! I see the problem!\"
          I'm not an engineer! But I agree with ChiefK. For me, since it seems inevitable that we will catch it sooner or later, and (hopefully) catching it will neither be serious and maybe even protective against repeated infections, my feeling is \"get it over and done with\" rather than be fearful that it will happen at a very inconvenient time. I'm also in my late 50s - if it's safer to get it when you're younger, then I'd rather get it sooner rather than later.

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          • MrsKiasuM
            MrsKiasu
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            ChiefKiasu\" post_id=\"2054873\" time=\"1641431860\" user_id=\"3:

            ?? Why I think like that? Maybe I just want to really test how effective the vaccines are... ๐Ÿ˜‚
            I'm an engineer, you know, who love to test out new things.

            Reminds me of the story of the 3 persons scheduled to die on the guillotine. The first 2 went through the guillotine face down but the blade did not drop. So they were saved because of \"divine intervention\".
            The 3rd one insisted to lie facing up. When the execution started and the blade did not drop again, he said:
            \"Ah... there! I see the problem!\"
            After that what happened? 3rd guy taught them fixed the issue and got chopped in return?

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            • MrsKiasuM
              MrsKiasu
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              But it is good to know not so โ€˜easyโ€™ to get itโ€ฆ

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              • Liew Nga WingL
                Liew Nga Wing
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                slmkhoo\" post_id=\"2054886\" time=\"1641435096\" user_id=\"28674:

                I'm not an engineer! But I agree with ChiefK. For me, since it seems inevitable that we will catch it sooner or later, and (hopefully) catching it will neither be serious and maybe even protective against repeated infections, my feeling is \"get it over and done with\" rather than be fearful that it will happen at a very inconvenient time. I'm also in my late 50s - if it's safer to get it when you're younger, then I'd rather get it sooner rather than later.
                I appreciate your courage but I will definitely disagree for a stroke patient (like the ChiefK) to catch Covid 19 because they are belong to the vulnerable group.

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                • ingwei79I
                  ingwei79
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                  ChiefKiasu\" post_id=\"2054817\" time=\"1641382973\" user_id=\"3:

                  I caught a cold on 31 December. I thought I had covid :roll: . Did my COVID self test and was disappointed that it was negative. I was actually hoping it was COVID so I can get it over with. But I only suffered for a day with body racking coughs and sore throat. Then it was gone. Must be the fastest 2-day recovery I ever had for a cold. I wonder if the vaccines had anything to do with it.

                  Anyway, I have no idea where or how I caught the cold. I hardly go to any places with lots of people, and I'm always with my mask on. I'm thinking, if it's so easy to catch a cold, then catching COVID must be the same. I just hope I catch the virus sooner while my 3 doses of vaccine is still effective.

                  Sigh.
                  You'll still get reinfection of Covid even if you had caught it. It is basically like common flu where our immune body cannot fight off all flu variants 100% even if it has gone through multiple variants and multiple vaccinations (this is why flu vaccinations are annual thing and not like taking polio or smallpox vaccines). At anytime, your body will host many variants of less harmful microbes, e.g. streps without causing you any symptoms. If you have a weaken immune system say from stress factor or nutrition defiencies, you can temporary give these microbe a chance to become symptomatic.

                  As for mask, it isn't 100% effective against Covid transmissions (see https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/nov/17/wearing-masks-single-most-effective-way-to-tackle-covid-study-finds).

                  As for you to hoping to get Covid while still having triple shots effectiveness probably isn't rational considering:[list=1]
                • [*]Reinfection can happen
                • [*]Vaccinated even with 3rd booster still has Covid death risk (Israel going for 4th jab recommendation, and I'm expecting similar situation in 2022 for us).
                • [*]When you're infected, you will pose as a health risk to those not vaccinated, partially vaccinated, and children around you (Singapore extremely unlikely to reach 100% Covid vaccination rate in our lifetime unless we close all borders to all immigrants and stop having babies).
                • [/list]

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                • ChiefKiasuC
                  ChiefKiasu
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                  ingwei79\" post_id=\"2054892\" time=\"1641437015\" user_id=\"173745:

                  You'll still get reinfection of Covid even if you had caught it. It is basically like common flu where our immune body cannot fight off all flu variants 100% even if it has gone through multiple variants and multiple vaccinations (this is why flu vaccinations are annual thing and not like taking polio or smallpox vaccines). At anytime, your body will host many variants of less harmful microbes, e.g. streps without causing you any symptoms. If you have a weaken immune system say from stress factor or nutrition defiencies, you can temporary give these microbe a chance to become symptomatic.

                  As for mask, it isn't 100% effective against Covid transmissions (see https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/nov/17/wearing-masks-single-most-effective-way-to-tackle-covid-study-finds).

                  As for you to hoping to get Covid while still having triple shots effectiveness probably isn't rational considering:[list=1]
                • [*]Reinfection can happen
                • [*]Vaccinated even with 3rd booster still has Covid death risk (Israel going for 4th jab recommendation, and I'm expecting similar situation in 2022 for us).
                • [*]When you're infected, you will pose as a health risk to those not vaccinated, partially vaccinated, and children around you (Singapore extremely unlikely to reach 100% Covid vaccination rate in our lifetime unless we close all borders to all immigrants and stop having babies).
                • [/list]
                  Thanks. I know it is still possible to get reinfected. But I do believe that what doesn't kill you only makes you stronger. As you said, the mask is not effective, and I've no idea how I caught the cold. It means I can still get covid even if I am religious with using masks. So my point is simple. Just live life as per normal. Forget about all the covid restrictions. Forget about all those daily reports on covid. It doesn't matter if the cases are rising or dropping. Life is too valuable to waste on shutting ourselves down from everyone else. Go get vaccinated, 3 shots, 4 shots, whatever is available. This will help you manage the virus when you get exposed, and you know you will be at some point in your life. If you catch the virus, so be it. Recover and move on with life.

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                  • Liew Nga WingL
                    Liew Nga Wing
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                    MrsKiasu\" post_id=\"2054887\" time=\"1641435413\" user_id=\"43981:

                    After that what happened? 3rd guy taught them fixed the issue and got chopped in return?
                    I admire your humor and intelligent. You are the best.... :rotflmao:

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                    • Liew Nga WingL
                      Liew Nga Wing
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                      ChiefKiasu\" post_id=\"2054895\" time=\"1641439232\" user_id=\"3:

                      So my point is simple. Just live life as per normal. Forget about all the covid restrictions. Forget about all those daily reports on covid. It doesn't matter if the cases are rising or dropping. Life is too valuable to waste on shutting ourselves down from everyone else. Go get vaccinated, 3 shots, 4 shots, whatever is available. This will help you manage the virus when you get exposed, and you know you will be at some point in your life. If you catch the virus, so be it. Recover and move on with life.
                      Your Point is noted. However,

                      1. There are people cannot make it and die from Covid 19 Complication.

                      2. Most of us are not shutting ourselves down from everyone else, we are still coming to office to work and attending social gatherings up to 05 persons with our relatives and friends.

                      3. By law, we cannot violate the Safe Management Measures imposed by our Government.

                      4. You caught an unlinked case of cold does not imply the Safe Management Measures are redundant.

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