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Imp75\" post_id=\"2056728\" time=\"1642999727\" user_id=\"2358:
That's why the case count reported by MOH is no longer accurate, and is almost certainly lower than in reality. But if most vaccinated people do not suffer unduly from Covid, there is really no need to count so carefully.
For those who tested ART positive at home and self-isolate, do they inform MOH and therefore added to the daily cases statistics? Without further testing, how does MOH know the virus strain for daily reporting/tracking? -
zeit.\" post_id=\"2056735\" time=\"1643003737\" user_id=\"194295:
It's not required for workplaces to report Covid cases to MOM. Maybe on those places which are required to test regularly. For workplaces where testing is not mandatory, even if a worker is Covid positive, there are mitigation measures to be done, but no necessity to report to MOM. So these cases will not be counted unless (in the past) they took a PCR test. Even if they saw a GP and were told to do home recovery, they would not have been counted until the rule changed a couple of days ago.
For working persons and students, I'm sure the stats will be included as they have to report to employer and teachers.
It's those non-working persons with no/mild symptoms who now follow Protocol 2 that would be missed out in the daily count, unless they choose to see a GP after self-testing positive on ART at home. If they don't see a GP, no one will know as they are not required to inform MOH. They will just self-isolate for 72h and if still positive, they will keep testing till Day 7 (for fully vaccinated) and Day 14 (for partially- or unvaccinated).
https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/moh-to-stop-differentiating-between-omicron-and-non-omicron-cases-in-daily-covid-19-reports
https://www.covid.gov.sg/well-and-positive-or-condition-assessed-mild-by-doctor -
Liew Nga Wing\" post_id=\"2056747\" time=\"1643011335\" user_id=\"195250:[quote=\"Liew Nga Wing\" post_id=2056747 time=1643011335 user_id=195250]
We can't do anything..just think that it is almost everywhere. The case that I heard also dont know have covid till pre departure test then know.
I still cannot recall where I catched the Covid 19, it may be the wedding dinner last week as many were together in a dinner hall. However, if it is not DH having severe symptoms and went to see GP last Saturday, I would only carry out my routine weekly ART test on every Tuesday morning. Don't know how many would be infected by me already. :slapshead:[/quote] -
slmkhoo\" post_id=\"2056754\" time=\"1643016048\" user_id=\"28674:
ok, perhaps HR won't report the PME infected cases to MOH. I don't know what arrangements HR has with MOH.
It's not required for workplaces to report Covid cases to MOM. Maybe on those places which are required to test regularly. For workplaces where testing is not mandatory, even if a worker is Covid positive, there are mitigation measures to be done, but no necessity to report to MOM. So these cases will not be counted unless (in the past) they took a PCR test. Even if they saw a GP and were told to do home recovery, they would not have been counted until the rule changed a couple of days ago.
But the infected case who is part of Team A, i.e. the 50% WFH employees, should still responsibly and honestly inform his immediate supervisors (so that he won't be bombarded with work-related emails, zoom meetings and online tasks during his period of HRP. Haha!!) If he's from Team B who is scheduled to go to office this week, he must inform HR as he cannot enter the office building. -
Imp75\" post_id=\"2056728\" time=\"1642999727\" user_id=\"2358:
Only recently have they included ART positive results in the daily statistics. Ask OYK lor. At first thought if we exclude the ART positive results, our daily count will look good. Hearsay, America CDC categorized Singapore’s Covid situation as “unknown” like North Korea.
For those who tested ART positive at home and self-isolate, do they inform MOH and therefore added to the daily cases statistics? Without further testing, how does MOH know the virus strain for daily reporting/tracking?
Most likely it is WHO’s requirement to know what strain is most active now then there are obligations to test the virus strain for factual reporting. -
lee_yl\" post_id=\"2056780\" time=\"1643068128\" user_id=\"17023:
But you can't distinguish the strain from ART, so including the GP counts can't be for that reason.
Only recently have they included ART positive results in the daily statistics. Ask OYK lor. At first thought if we exclude the ART positive results, our daily count will look good. Hearsay, America CDC categorized Singapore’s Covid situation as “unknown” like North Korea.
Most likely it is WHO’s requirement to know what strain is most active now then there are obligations to test the virus strain for factual reporting. -
zeit.\" post_id=\"2056774\" time=\"1643035037\" user_id=\"194295:
If the person on home recovery has no/mild symptoms and is able to WFH, then I think employers will expect them to WFH unless they have MC. GPs only give MC if the person has sufficient symptoms that he shouldn't be working, or if the person can't WFH.
ok, perhaps HR won't report the PME infected cases to MOH. I don't know what arrangements HR has with MOH.
But the infected case who is part of Team A, i.e. the 50% WFH employees, should still responsibly and honestly inform his immediate supervisors (so that he won't be bombarded with work-related emails, zoom meetings and online tasks during his period of HRP. Haha!!) If he's from Team B who is scheduled to go to office this week, he must inform HR as he cannot enter the office building. -
slmkhoo\" post_id=\"2056781\" time=\"1643068827\" user_id=\"28674:
Two separate matters, including ART positive results is to meet CDC’s requirements to get out of ‘unknown’ category whereas testing the strain is likely WHO’s requirement
But you can't distinguish the strain from ART, so including the GP counts can't be for that reason.
As only PCR could determine the strain and not all ART positive results go for PCR, the number of Omicron cases could be underreported -
lee_yl\" post_id=\"2056783\" time=\"1643070097\" user_id=\"17023:
I'm sure it's vastly underreported. They are trying to wean Singaporeans off the idea that we need to track every case, and just focus on the more serious ones. Which is why tracking the GP-home recovery no. seems to me like a backward step. I'm fairly sure that in countries like US and UK, people who self-test positive with no/mild symptoms and stay at home won't be reported and counted either.
Two separate matters, including ART positive results is to meet CDC’s requirements to get out of ‘unknown’ category whereas testing the strain is likely WHO’s requirement
As only PCR could determine the strain and not all ART positive results go for PCR, the number of Omicron cases could be underreported -
Suppose one is found ART positive and has mild symptoms.
Need to see a GP who will report to MOH and the patient can go to the selected locations to get ART kits.
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