All About Full-Time Maids
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liuhao:
you may want to consider a pinoy card, if using a mobile as it is cheaper to call/text PH.anyone knows what is the best phone card to make budget IDD calls from Singapore to Philippines?
my fresh new maid is coming and i prepare to buy a calling card for her when she arrives.
anyone knows?
this is the #3 maid in a year. i promise later i will share what happened to my previous two maids. they were both transfer maids.
Else, we use those cratch cards from 7-11 as well. -
thanks but no, no HP will be allowed for my new maid. i am thinking about those budget IDD calling card that can use home telephone to call Philippines.
Andaiz:
you may want to consider a pinoy card, if using a mobile as it is cheaper to call/text PH.liuhao:
anyone knows what is the best phone card to make budget IDD calls from Singapore to Philippines?
my fresh new maid is coming and i prepare to buy a calling card for her when she arrives.
anyone knows?
this is the #3 maid in a year. i promise later i will share what happened to my previous two maids. they were both transfer maids.
Else, we use those cratch cards from 7-11 as well. -
Hi liuhao
May I know where we can get the hidden camera thing and is it clear enough to capture voices too? My trustworthy maid of 7 years also got these HP and boyfriend problems recently and I am thinking of using that to see what she is doing whenever I am out.
I suspect even if you specify no HP and off day right from beginning, they will somehow get hold of one or two phones and start using it without us knowing. I trusted my maid so much that I did not even know that she was using it so frequently when I am out until I have to secretly check her phone and was shocked to see calls/sms in/out morning, afternoon, nite until 12 midnite. Our house rule is that she can use HP at nite when all work done and kids settled but up to 11pm. The last time we confronted her, she demanded for every sunday off (currently 2 sundays off) if we keep her HP during day. Now she hides her pone and clear all the logs until I can’t check anything so I am thinking for the camera thing to see if she continues to use HP.
Actually, to chit chat for a while with friends is fine but the tendency is that they got overboard after a while esp if no one at home. And with young children at home, it is somewhat difficult to specify a time when she can "chit-chat" with her friend as children’s timing is unpredictable. -
the camera i got is from US. there are many types that look like whatever household appliance from appearance. it requires computer/IT knowledge to use. not plug and play type. but it captures great video and voice and record.
for me, the HP must be avoided at all cost. must state and communicate very clearly from day 1. and keep reminding her why this thing is so harmful to her and why she come to here (to work or to play or to find bf). whenever you notice the maid got secret HP, must talk to her and confiscate immediately. dont take any chances. i know with time going, maid will request HP and off day. i may consider to lose the rule but the HP and off day will NOT be given together. that means if maid has HP, no off day. if has off day, no HP. NOT and NEVER BOTH AT SAME TIME. otherwise, it's just matter of time she will get a bf or several bf. just matter of time. it will come sooner than later than you expect.
but then again, without HP, you have to find ways to keep her busy and make her life fun.
i think in your case, it's pretty hard and late already. once you leave the phone to her. she will use all the time. if she does not make call, other ppl will call her. timetable will not work for HP. that's a sure case. and there is no turning back until you change a maid.
my question is, even you have camera captured her using the HP, what can you do? now my maid insists on finding an employer who can grant her right of using HP. she does not mind go back home if can not find such employer. she was a very nice girl, very responsible, very hard working, and coming here to support her family. now got attached to the bloody HP and plan to give up everything for it. very sad isnt it?Breadandmuffins:
Hi liuhao
May I know where we can get the hidden camera thing and is it clear enough to capture voices too? My trustworthy maid of 7 years also got these HP and boyfriend problems recently and I am thinking of using that to see what she is doing whenever I am out.
I suspect even if you specify no HP and off day right from beginning, they will somehow get hold of one or two phones and start using it without us knowing. I trusted my maid so much that I did not even know that she was using it so frequently when I am out until I have to secretly check her phone and was shocked to see calls/sms in/out morning, afternoon, nite until 12 midnite. Our house rule is that she can use HP at nite when all work done and kids settled but up to 11pm. The last time we confronted her, she demanded for every sunday off (currently 2 sundays off) if we keep her HP during day. Now she hides her pone and clear all the logs until I can't check anything so I am thinking for the camera thing to see if she continues to use HP.
Actually, to chit chat for a while with friends is fine but the tendency is that they got overboard after a while esp if no one at home. And with young children at home, it is somewhat difficult to specify a time when she can \"chit-chat\" with her friend as children's timing is unpredictable. -
now i am getting my maid #3. she is a fresh new maid, mother with 1 yr old son, coming from iloilo Philippines. working as kindergarten teacher before. i am getting fresh new one because i am really really tired and sad about the HP issue i have from my previous two transferred maids. i dont believe a maid with HP can handle baby, not even my 7 yrs old boy. baby needs to sleep most of the time and i dont want to see maid smsing/talking over the phone beside baby cot. my baby will have nightmare in her dreams. if maid does that, she wont hear baby cry either. baby or toddler is someone that requires full attention.
if i dont have children at home, i dont mind maid using HP. however how many employers need to hire maid if they dont have children to take care?
i will make it very clear for her from day 1 (actually during phone interview already) that no HP is allowed. this is the rule #1 and if broken, there is no second warning, no chance of transferring, and she will be sent home. i will share my previous maid story with her so that she will know i really mean it.
rule #2: no bf/lover as well. i will not tolerate my maid just slept with a bangladesh during her off day then come back to feed my baby or touch my children and household items. no fking way! if broken, same as rule #1.
she is arriving next Tue. this is the first time i get a fresh new maid. holding my breath now… -
Hi liuhao, i have a filipino maid who has been with us for 14 months....We employed her cos she was Ex-sin 4 years. When we picked her up for the 1st time, we had agreed that no handphone until 6 months later...For these experienced maid, they will ask for off day and hp and so we accepted cos we wanted someone experienced....Within the 1st 3 months, she was really fantastic...doing her job nicely and we are very happy....the next moment she requested us to release the hp to her citing that she will only make calls/smses in the nite..we trusted her and so obliged...One day, while in her room, I saw the handphone switched on and immediately I meddle with it and realised she was actually smsing during the day...I was so pissed off and told her off badly..Her main responsibility is to look after our only 5 years old girl and the usual housekeeping and cooking... these maids are too smart to know our schedule too well and will always doing monkey things behind us whenever we are not around...Just few months back, we are supposed to send my girl for her voilin after her ballet class...But since my girl was not feeling too well that day, we decided to head home straight....U know what, my maid was putting on the earpiece and talking over the phone..I was very cool and just told her not to explain anything....Cos I knew their explanation will be nonsense and will make my blood boil and drives me up to the wall.. I dun wanna have a cardiac arrest cos of this ...
Just few weeks back, my DH was not able to fetch my DD from her preschool and asked the maid to do so....When I came home that day, my DD told me that auntie crossed the road when the traffic light is still RED..cos there are no car....I scolded her and she never even apologised..
Since I had recently quitted from the workforce to stay at home, she starts to buck up cos just in the beginning of June, I had told her if she is not keen to work, she can go back to the Philippines...We are only a small family of 3 ppl and 1 dog in the house..These experienced maid think they are smart and always try to do things their own way...
Everynite, all of us will be in the bedroom by 9.30 pm and she also did the same...I knew she rushed to bed as soon as us so to continue with her smsing lah....We had \"lose heart\" with these experienced maid...Its always better to have someone at home to supervise the maid....otherwise u really do not know whats up their sleeves....
During the interview they will promise u everything.....but few months into their job, they will start to request for \"priviledge\"....This happened to many maids...
Before this maid, we had got 1 fresh Filipino but she was homesick badly and requested to go back home after the 2nd month...Imagine she need to pay back the agent 20K peso for breaking the bond?? She do not have a hp and so I gave her my hp no. in case her family needs to talk to her....my goodness, her hubby always sms me asking for permission to speak to her wife every week! We even arranged for her to skype with her family every week.... I allow it thinking this will help her to overcome homesick...I was wrong...she kept crying every day and keep saying she missed her 3 young girl...
I hope u will get a reliable maid and stick to your rules...
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liuhao:
now i am getting my maid #3. she is a fresh new maid, mother with 1 yr old son, coming from iloilo Philippines. working as kindergarten teacher before. i am getting fresh new one because i am really really tired and sad about the HP issue i have from my previous two transferred maids. i dont believe a maid with HP can handle baby, not even my 7 yrs old boy. baby needs to sleep most of the time and i dont want to see maid smsing/talking over the phone beside baby cot. my baby will have nightmare in her dreams. if maid does that, she wont hear baby cry either. baby or toddler is someone that requires full attention.
if i dont have children at home, i dont mind maid using HP. however how many employers need to hire maid if they dont have children to take care?
i will make it very clear for her from day 1 (actually during phone interview already) that no HP is allowed. this is the rule #1 and if broken, there is no second warning, no chance of transferring, and she will be sent home. i will share my previous maid story with her so that she will know i really mean it.
rule #2: no bf/lover as well. i will not tolerate my maid just slept with a bangladesh during her off day then come back to feed my baby or touch my children and household items. no fking way! if broken, same as rule #1.
she is arriving next Tue. this is the first time i get a fresh new maid. holding my breath now...
for you.....good luck!
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well i havent lost my hope yet.
my colleague has successfully keep her maid for 2 years without HP and off day. going to renew for another 2 years. the maid is always happy. she is a great maid manager. she has successfully brain washed her maid (especially in the first 6 months) that even now she wants to give her maid a HP, her maid also does not want.
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liuhao:
Wah! She's good... :celebrate: what's her secret?well i havent lost my hope yet.
my colleague has successfully keep her maid for 2 years without HP and off day. going to renew for another 2 years. the maid is always happy. she is a great maid manager. she has successfully brain washed her maid (especially in the first 6 months) that even now she wants to give her maid a HP, her maid also does not want. -
Liuhao, I really empathise with u after reading your maid stories cos I had just released an errant maid too. Caused me alot of pain and anguish before I finally released her to agent.
I don’t really want to go into details cos the incident was still fresh and I don’t want to dig up my wounds again. But she also broke the ‘NO H/P’ rule which I have stated to the agent even before they brought her in. But this maid managed to get a H/P from her cousin on one of her off days and kept it without telling me. I found out one day that she had been using the phone to call and sms when she was sleeping with my child in the same room every night! I was so furious and asked her to give me her phone. I told her she can get from me if she really need to talk to her family. She stubbornly refused and even asked for a transfer. I told her fine, but she had to wait till I get a replacement maid. Guess what?! She insisted on a transfer right away and even refused to work (it was about dinner time and she was supposed to cook). I was so, so furious and upset that I called the agent to take her away.
Now I’m without a maid and thinking whether I should get a new maid cos I’m really scared of all these maid problems, esp. after reading your stories. You are such a good employer, yet these maids do not appreciate at all. It’s like a no-win situation with maids. You treat them well, and they take advantage of you. You treat them bad, and they complain to MOM, embassy and what nots. It really made me wonder if there are any good maids or not??
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