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    • Zeal mummyZ Offline
      Zeal mummy
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      phtthp\" post_id=\"2058951\" time=\"1645081908\" user_id=\"35251:

      For JC students taking Chinese exam, because they did not clear Sec 4 Higher Chinese,

      is it closer to Sec 4 (Standard Chinese or Higher Chinese) standard, easier or harder ?
      I have heard that the JC AO-level Chinese, is the same standard as the O-levels HCL, although some students think it’s slightly easier.

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      • Zeal mummyZ Offline
        Zeal mummy
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        chenlaoshi\" post_id=\"2058924\" time=\"1645073216\" user_id=\"162894:

        Yeah. How in depth their answers are and how comfortable they are in expressing themselves.

        There won't be a change in exam format for the forseeable future. Syllabus wise, this year's Year 2 students are the first batch using the new syllabus. However, syllabus doesn't really matter as much in O'Level as compared to PSLE as the examinable scope is much wider (i.e. goes beyond syllabus text).

        If time is not an issue, I would suggest practicing
        - CL 10 year series (cloze passage component and OE compre) for Year 2
        - HCL 10 year series from Year 3 onwards
        Yes they are the batch doing the new syllabus. So I was wondering if the Os will also be updated accordingly..?

        Thank you for the advice!

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        • R Offline
          Reenie
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          Hi Chen lao shi,


          May I know how the child should go about answering this type of question in Compre? Is there a particular answering technique for these kind of questions? The allocated marks seems a lot. Thanks!
          Sorry wanted to post image but keep having error when uploading the images.

          1. 试写出这篇文章的主题 。(4m)

          2. 作者在第三段说:“此时,我心中有了答案"。 你认为作者的答案是什么?(5m)

          Thank you!!

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          • chenlaoshiC Offline
            chenlaoshi
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            sushi88\" post_id=\"2058935\" time=\"1645075130\" user_id=\"100857:

            To be frank, I have heard of A2 and merit/pass for Oral and A1 merit/pass for Oral for the local Singaporean kids(parents also purely local) but not the perfect score. However, the perfect scores are currently limited to the kids from China or kids born here but one or both parents are from China or kids from Taiwan from the circle of friends I know. So it's good to know that your tutees hit rate is 2-3 in 10.

            So I think our Chinese standards is really quite high and it's not a bad thing. I do not think we should design exams just for the kids to ace them but it should be according to what is required in the global marketplace for them to be effective.
            Yeah, our local kids are at a slight disadvantage esp. when it comes to Sec level because of their weaker foundation in the language and lack of cultural understanding/background. The latter can affect their level of understanding/in depth explanation or analysis when it comes to comprehension passages which are mostly informative and discursive based. It certainly helps if they know who the famous people mentioned are and where the quotes/poems quoted came from. For example, years ago, most of them still know who 岳飞、包拯、诸葛亮 are, nowadays for many of them, these names doesn't ring a bell. 😓

            Indeed, there's room for improvement to strengthen learning process and applicability for students to 学以致用. I think the way HSK Chinese Proficiency Test is being prepared for is much more organized and applicable - learning based on themes and social topics, whereas locally the syllabus words and phrases are pretty much \"mixed up\", despite each chapter evolving around specific themes.

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            • chenlaoshiC Offline
              chenlaoshi
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              phtthp\" post_id=\"2058951\" time=\"1645081908\" user_id=\"35251:

              For JC students taking Chinese exam, because they did not clear Sec 4 Higher Chinese,

              is it closer to Sec 4 (Standard Chinese or Higher Chinese) standard, easier or harder ?
              It's closer to Sec HCL standard. As long as the student's foundation is not too weak (i.e. took learning of CL seriously), it should be overall easier because:

              - for 综合填空, there are 15 choices to choose from for 10 questions instead of 4 choices to choose from for each question. the no. of 干扰选项 is lesser and as you eliminate the choices used for questions that you are more confident in, it should become easier to arrive at the answers for the remaining ones.

              - for 阅读理解一,besides the 4 MCQ, of the remaining 2 OE questions worth 6 marks each, 1 is pretty much narrative (where majority of the points can be extracted from the passage) and the other involves critical thinking (analysis and evaluation) + provide example - pretty much logic based

              - instead of 2 阅读理解二 (i.e. A组 and B组), there's just 1, albeit with higher weightage - but at least you just need to fully comprehend 1 passage instead of 2.

              - for 阅读理解二, there are 4 questions whereby student need to find phrases from the passage that's similiar to the underlined ones in the questions. this is very much like Pri 5/6 HCL 阅读理解(一) first 2 questions.

              - the last question in 阅读理解二 is summarization (this time in 70 words instead of 80), something the HCL students would have learnt in Sec level.

              - weightage for Paper 1 is lower (30%, /60 marks, no email writing) as compared to Sec HCL's 40%, /80, inc. email writing. that 10% diff is split into 5% each to Oral and LC (no LC in Sec HCL)

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                newbieks
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                chenlaoshi\" post_id=\"2059073\" time=\"1645164709\" user_id=\"162894:

                Yeah, our local kids are at a slight disadvantage esp. when it comes to Sec level because of their weaker foundation in the language and lack of cultural understanding/background. The latter can affect their level of understanding/in depth explanation or analysis when it comes to comprehension passages which are mostly informative and discursive based. It certainly helps if they know who the famous people mentioned are and where the quotes/poems quoted came from. For example, years ago, most of them still know who 岳飞、包拯、诸葛亮 are, nowadays for many of them, these names doesn't ring a bell. 😓

                Indeed, there's room for improvement to strengthen learning process and applicability for students to 学以致用. I think the way HSK Chinese Proficiency Test is being prepared for is much more organized and applicable - learning based on themes and social topics, whereas locally the syllabus words and phrases are pretty much \"mixed up\", despite each chapter evolving around specific themes.

                Talking about this, my girl in SAP school had weekly lessons on Chinese history in the lower Sec years, and after 2 years she still has the idea that 秦始皇is the emperor’s real name!!

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                • Liew Nga WingL Offline
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                  Talking about this, my girl in SAP school had weekly lessons on Chinese history in the lower Sec years, and after 2 years she still has the idea that 秦始皇is the emperor’s real name!!
                  The emperor's name is 嬴政.

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                  • Zeal mummyZ Offline
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                    Liew Nga Wing\" post_id=\"2059077\" time=\"1645167979\" user_id=\"195250:[quote=\"Liew Nga Wing\" post_id=2059077 time=1645167979 user_id=195250]
                    The emperor's name is 嬴政.[/quote]
                    Correct!

                    Qin Shi Huang, or Shihuangdi, was the founder of the Qin dynasty, and first emperor of a unified China. Rather than maintain the title of \"king\" borne by the previous Shang and Zhou rulers, he ruled as the First Emperor of the Qin dynasty from 221 to 210 BCE.

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                    • Zeal mummyZ Offline
                      Zeal mummy
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                      Is Chinese/China history taught during secondary school Chinese lesson? Is it helpful/ necessary to know and in which components particularly?

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                        Hmmm, actually I don't think it's nec to learn from 上古、夏商四周、春秋战国、秦朝、汉朝、魏晋南北朝、隋唐五代、宋辽金 to 元朝。Even Taiwan's newest History textbook syllabi for Junior High Years 123 and Senior High Years 456 have been drastically cut. Some 00后 secondary school pupils in Taiwan don't know who 岳飞 is! Srsly, you won't fail GCE CL/HCL papers if you don't know Chinese history 🙂


                        I mean, if you want to read up on your own out of interest, that's fine. Like, knowing that 岳飞、包拯=宋朝. But even if you know everything about Tang and Song, you probably won't understand what https://www.moh.gov.sg/news-highlights/details/speech-by-mr-ong-ye-kung-minister-for-health-at-singapore-perspectives-2022-13-january-2022-9.00am at the \"Cities\" forum organised by IPS! He probably doesn't even know the history of 长安 and 开封 when he compared Singapore to these ancient capitals! :faint: :siao: :slapshead: :scratchhead:

                        It is however nice to know the following:
                        明朝 - 郑和下西洋、郑成功收复台湾、工艺术法发达、《本草纲目》
                        Ming is useful because some of our Chinese ancestors migrated to SEA during that period (Malacca) and became Peranakans in the Malay Archipelago region. Ming was the period when the Middle Kingdom was open to sea voyage, maritime trade & shipbuilding. China also had many tributary/vassal states including Korea, Vietnam, etc. during Ming. You'll understand why Korea and China are always bickering over that Winter Olympics opening ceremony Korean 'hanbok' girl, kimchi, etc. You'll understand why Vietnam is so anti-China today and smashing up Chinese factories in Vietnam. You'll begin to know why China is trying to make Melaka its vassal state via the Belt Road thingie. If you're into TCM, you should read up《本草纲目》and argue with the Koreans that it was the Chinese who invented acupuncture, not 大长今, as many Korean drama viewers had thought so.

                        郑成功 is important if your kid wants to understand the connection between Mainland and Taiwan. You can take them to visit the museum in Tainan. Many Taiwanese Chinese 本省人 in the south migrated to Taiwan with 郑成功 from Fujian.

                        清朝 - 努尔哈赤建立后金
                        康熙平定“三藩” (Yunnan/Guizhou, Fujian, Guangdong rebellions 反清复明) - Same for this if you wish to know what the historical quarrel about Taiwan and Mainland is all about.
                        太平天国 - basically a Hakka Han Christian uprising; continuation of the 反清复明 movement that lasted till Boxer Rebellion & 1911 Revolution to overthrow the Manchus. Most of the rebels' descendants are rumoured to have gone south to GD/HK.
                        火烧圆明园 - Good to know if you visit museums in Europe as the treasures plundered are all blatantly exhibited there. Also enables you to understand why Chinese patriots are buying back all the Zodiac animal bronze sculptures in auctions.
                        八国联军 - Helps you understand the revanchist mindset of the CCP today, i.e. to reclaim what she's lost in the last 200 years to Imperial Powers. You'll understand why the PRC spokesperson recently mocked the G7 \"bullies\" using a 八国联军 comic.
                        武昌起义 - This is the precursor to the 1911 Revolution, plotted and led by Tongmenhui (Headquartered in British Singapore, 晚晴园). Some Singaporean Chinese died in the various uprisings.
                        鸦片战争 - 1st Opium War is important because it helps you understand the history of Hong Kong Island (freehold), how Shanghai / Ningpo / Xiamen / Fuzhou ports came about. The original \"Treaty of Nanking\" is held by the ROC in Taiwan's 故宫 museum today.
                        2nd Opium War helps you understand how Kowloon peninsula (99 year leasehold) was further lost and ceded to the British, and the genesis of Tianjin port. Singapore thrived as an entrepot in the 1800s because of the 2 opium wars. The British used Singapore as a transshipment hub to transport opium amongst other goods to China.


                        垂帘听政 ) OK to know cos most of our migrant coolies left China during the late Qing era. The 'Push' factors that caused immigrants to migrate to Singapore.
                        辛亥革命 )

                        What is not taught : the 1st Sino-Japanese War 甲午战争 (1894) and 2nd Sino-Japanese War (1937) 八年抗战. They should because the 1st Sino-Jap War that was how and why Taiwan was ceded to the Japanese until 1945 (until the atomic bombs were dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki). Because our pupils don't learn about the \"Treaty of Shimonoseki\", when they join the workforce, they will ask why they cannot include \"Taiwan\" on the corporate websites under \"Countries\" list and risk offending their host country China.

                        Anyway, if you have studied this, you would be able to answer the recent \"University Challenge\" (Kings vs Imperial) question on the JPY5,000 note cos the year given by the quiz host was 1896! I got the answer correct. LOL!!

                        The 2nd Sino-Japanese War is mentioned in the lower sec History Books. It led to the Japanese taking vengeance on Nanyang Chinese thru the Sook Ching massacre.

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