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    • EstéemaE Offline
      Estéema
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      Looks like the tenants hv resigned & gave up pursuing. If they can be motivated again, Small Claims Tribunal is the place to seek recourse, unless they can find a pro-Bono lawyer for legal suit.

      Mths other blockage is the time needed to present themselves in court. It can be very stressful. I can imagine the LL’s threats of storing trouble at their workplace.

      I was once facing such a similar threat fr my contractor at age 21, and it was indeed terrifying & stressful, if not for my company’s legal counsel who recommended a lawyer Frd. I was supposed to pay processing fee whilst the lawyer offered his service free to write a demand letter. This action actually scare the daylight of the fierce 老板娘 in turn & we settled before any lawsuit.

      Lee, every effort to stand on justice side is nvr wasted. It gives others who at downtrodden hope & the spirit to fight back fr oppression. Asking for $4K for an old HDB is still daylight robbery! She can wait for her next victim but justice is watching to snare her soon. Let’s uphold justice!

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      • MrsKiasuM Offline
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        Is threatening also an offence? Note down time and date, gather all evidences… like what not a normal ppl will do?

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        • lee_ylL Offline
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          MrsKiasu\" post_id=\"2060500\" time=\"1646363866\" user_id=\"43981:

          Is threatening also an offence? Note down time and date, gather all evidences.. like what not a normal ppl will do?
          Threatening can be considered as an offence but need evidence.

          For example, we took down the police officer’s name during the day of eviction, went to police station to seek recourse, the police there said, sorry we cannot disclose to safeguard operational confidentiality. Nothing we can do.

          We filed police report on harassment a few times since last year until now, no Investigation Officer called back. Don’t expect police to help as TA matters are civil disputes not criminal cases. True enough, Police told us TA dispute is placed as the lowest priority. Ask us look for lawyer instead. We went in / out police station many times already.

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          • lee_ylL Offline
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            Estéema\" post_id=\"2060499\" time=\"1646363392\" user_id=\"66413:

            Looks like the tenants hv resigned & gave up pursuing. If they can be motivated again, Small Claims Tribunal is the place to seek recourse, unless they can find a pro-Bono lawyer for legal suit.
            Mths other blockage is the time needed to present themselves in court. It can be very stressful. I can imagine the LL’s threats of storing trouble at their workplace.

            I was once facing such a similar threat fr my contractor at age 21, and it was indeed terrifying & stressful, if not for my company’s legal counsel who recommended a lawyer Frd. I was supposed to pay processing fee whilst the lawyer offered his service free to write a demand letter. This action actually scare the daylight of the fierce 老板娘 in turn & we settled before any lawsuit.

            Lee, every effort to stand on justice side is nvr wasted. It gives others who at downtrodden hope & the spirit to fight back fr oppression. Asking for $4K for an old HDB is still daylight robbery! She can wait for her next victim but justice is watching to snare her soon. Let’s uphold justice!
            TA contracts that are more than 2 years cannot go to small claim courts.

            We wrote in to pro-bono lawyer asking for help but was rejected, and was asked to look for our own lawyer cos the healthcare workers are working adults.

            Same like you back then, the tenants are young adults. The tenants only knew how to cry when bullied by the LL. The lawyer I recommended wrote to LL a few times to try to settle the matter amicably but LL was not deterred and went ahead with the actions. Lawyer said the best way is still go to court. Tenants not willing to pay $5K-$8K for the court fees.

            The LL is highly educated. She is not scared at all of lawyer’s letter. I have seen those not so highly educated ones, once received a lawyer’s letter, would get scared, so would quickly apologize. Something I learnt from this incident, knowledge is indeed power!

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            • EstéemaE Offline
              Estéema
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              lee_yl\" post_id=\"2060504\" time=\"1646369878\" user_id=\"17023:

              TA contracts that are more than 2 years cannot go to small claim courts.

              We wrote in to pro-bono lawyer asking for help but was rejected, and was asked to look for our own lawyer cos the healthcare workers are working adults.

              Same like you back then, the tenants are young adults. The tenants only knew how to cry when bullied by the LL. The lawyer I recommended wrote to LL a few times to try to settle the matter amicably but LL was not deterred and went ahead with the actions. Lawyer said the best way is still go to court. Tenants not willing to pay $5K-$8K for the court fees.

              The LL is highly educated. She is not scared at all of lawyer’s letter. I have seen those not so highly educated ones, once received a lawyer’s letter, would get scared, so would quickly apologize. Something I learnt from this incident, knowledge is indeed power!
              Does the tenants hv a copy of the Tenancy Agreement? That’s the evidence enuf for CEA & HDB. I wld really be surprised these authorities do not act on such an evidence. I’m not sure abt the inadmissible of a 3-year TA, as I thot SCTC will take up cases for claims within $20K.

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              • lee_ylL Offline
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                Estéema\" post_id=\"2060508\" time=\"1646370677\" user_id=\"66413:

                Does the tenants hv a copy of the Tenancy Agreement? That’s the evidence enuf for CEA & HDB. I wld really be surprised these authorities do not act on such an evidence. I’m not sure abt the inadmissible of a 3-year TA, as I thot SCTC will take up cases for claims within $20K.
                HDB act blur. We have written to HDB to inform them of this blatant violation of their rental guidelines and asked them point blank how they plan to deal with the transgression. So far nothing heard from them

                As for CEA, the tenants were worried that the LL / agent would create trouble for them at the hospitals where they work if her license gets suspended.

                I can write email to CEA again and attached the TA as evidence, but should LL turn up at their workplace, it will cause trouble for them, not to me. In fact, the LL turned up at one of the hospitals last year to create a scene and caused the tenant to receive a warning letter from HR.

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                • Zeal mummyZ Offline
                  Zeal mummy
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                  Perhaps look through the TA again? There should be something there that can hold the LL accountable.

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                  • Zeal mummyZ Offline
                    Zeal mummy
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                    lee_yl\" post_id=\"2060527\" time=\"1646391490\" user_id=\"17023:

                    HDB act blur. We have written to HDB to inform them of this blatant violation of their rental guidelines and asked them point blank how they plan to deal with the transgression. So far nothing heard from them

                    As for CEA, the tenants were worried that the LL / agent would create trouble for them at the hospitals where they work if her license gets suspended.

                    I can write email to CEA again and attached the TA as evidence, but should LL turn up at their workplace, it will cause trouble for them, not to me. In fact, the LL turned up at one of the hospitals last year to create a scene and caused the tenant to receive a warning letter from HR.
                    I recall that if you don’t have Malaysians or Singaporeans as the main tenant, you wouldn’t be able to rent it out for 3 years on the system. You might want to check the TA and also who is the main tenant on the contract and the online approval from HDB.

                    Rental period
                    You must rent an HDB flat/ bedroom for at least 6 months. Owners can apply to rent out flat/ bedrooms for a maximum period of 3 years per application if their tenants are all Singaporeans or Malaysians. For application involving non-Malaysian non-citizens, the maximum rental period per approval is 2 years.

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                    • ChiefKiasuC Offline
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                      lee_yl\" post_id=\"2060527\" time=\"1646391490\" user_id=\"17023:

                      HDB act blur. We have written to HDB to inform them of this blatant violation of their rental guidelines and asked them point blank how they plan to deal with the transgression. So far nothing heard from them

                      As for CEA, the tenants were worried that the LL / agent would create trouble for them at the hospitals where they work if her license gets suspended.

                      I can write email to CEA again and attached the TA as evidence, but should LL turn up at their workplace, it will cause trouble for them, not to me. In fact, the LL turned up at one of the hospitals last year to create a scene and caused the tenant to receive a warning letter from HR.
                      What is CEA?? Why should they be afraid of the landlord?

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                      • EstéemaE Offline
                        Estéema
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                        lee_yl\" post_id=\"2060527\" time=\"1646391490\" user_id=\"17023:

                        HDB act blur. We have written to HDB to inform them of this blatant violation of their rental guidelines and asked them point blank how they plan to deal with the transgression. So far nothing heard from them

                        Lag time apparently bureaucracy. Once they see evidences in social media, ther legs & hands will be super Gonzales!

                        As for CEA, the tenants were worried that the LL / agent would create trouble for them at the hospitals where they work if her license gets suspended.

                        I can write email to CEA again and attached the TA as evidence, but should LL turn up at their workplace, it will cause trouble for them, not to me. In fact, the LL turned up at one of the hospitals last year to create a scene and caused the tenant to receive a warning letter from HR.

                        It’s typical, the bullied always retracts. This gives the bully the resolve to inch fwd with boldness. What I wld hv expected the hospital shld hv rules against outsiders & they shld be shown out of office to settle outside of workplace. Security hv failed in this case. I wld walk up to HR to protest wrongful issuance of warning notice & expect the letter to be retracted. No wonder we’ve less healthcare workers & many quitting under an alr stressful working environment.

                        The social media a good avenue to share w/o specifiic personal details.

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