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    • lee_ylL Offline
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      Zeal mummy\" post_id=\"2060614\" time=\"1646489207\" user_id=\"58173:[quote=\"Zeal mummy\" post_id=2060614 time=1646489207 user_id=58173]
      Yes, it is easy for the LL to terminate the approval for rental, everything is online over the HDB portal. The contract could state that if LL wishes to take back the unit, he has to give 2 months notice. Once the 2 months notice is up, he can take the unit back. It is not illegal, it might be unfair to the tenants.[/quote]
      Armed with the HDB termination letter, LL unilaterally terminated the TA with immediate effect.

      Yes, there is a clause that says LL has to give 2 months notice but how can the tenant continue to stay for 2 months when the HDB approval to rent out whole unit comes to a cease?

      If they insist to stay put for another 2 months, tenants become illegal overstayer.

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      • starlight1968sgS Offline
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        How can LL terminate the renting out approval with hdb when she has to give 2 mth notice to tenants?

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        • MrsKiasuM Offline
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          If tenant dont give 2 mths notice, need forfeit deposit I think. If that’s the same, the LL should pay 2 mths to tenant?

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            lee_yl\" post_id=\"2060658\" time=\"1646545249\" user_id=\"17023:

            Armed with the HDB termination letter, LL unilaterally terminated the TA with immediate effect.

            Yes, there is a clause that says LL has to give 2 months notice but how can the tenant continue to stay for 2 months when the HDB approval to rent out whole unit comes to a cease?

            If they insist to stay put for another 2 months, tenants become illegal overstayer.
            It does not make sense. The LL is the one who cannot give the 2 months' notice because she terminated her own rights of rental with HDB. So she has to pay the tenant damages for early cessation of contract or find a new place for them since she is an agent. Her act of termination of her unit with HDB for rental is VERY FISHY.

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            • ChiefKiasuC Offline
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              sushi88\" post_id=\"2060663\" time=\"1646547514\" user_id=\"100857:

              It does not make sense. The LL is the one who cannot give the 2 months' notice because she terminated her own rights of rental with HDB. So she has to pay the tenant damages for early cessation of contract or find a new place for them since she is an agent. Her act of termination of her unit with HDB for rental is VERY FISHY.
              Yes, I agree. So she had to pay damages on top of the 3 months deposit.

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              • MrsKiasuM Offline
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                Assuming that the tenant able to return a reasonably good condition unit back to LL..the tenant should get back 2 mths unserved notice, 3 mths deposits, reimbursement of lawyer fee incurred plus tenant's transportation/time and possibly anguish caused..if only we have the power to do that 😉

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                • Zeal mummyZ Offline
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                  Perhaps what we need to know is… if LL has given notice or not. As it sounds like notice was given but tenants refused to leave. As so, after 2 months (or more) is up, at wits end, the LL went to terminate the approval so to evict the tenant on the basis of overstaying. Calling police to help, sounds very very very desperate for a contract that ends in 8 months. Are we certain that the tenants have no fault?


                  Disclaimer: I don’t know this agent/LL… and have no intentions of siding anyone. Just providing a possible scenario.

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                  • Zeal mummyZ Offline
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                    lee_yl\" post_id=\"2060658\" time=\"1646545249\" user_id=\"17023:

                    Armed with the HDB termination letter, LL unilaterally terminated the TA with immediate effect.

                    Yes, there is a clause that says LL has to give 2 months notice but how can the tenant continue to stay for 2 months when the HDB approval to rent out whole unit comes to a cease?

                    If they insist to stay put for another 2 months, tenants become illegal overstayer.
                    Check with LL or tenant when was the notice given to vacate? Did tenant do anything out of line? I’m struggling to understand why with only 8 months left, LL would violate the contractual terms.

                    I hope the tenants found a new home and is settle down well there. Put the past behind and start afresh. If they need any appliances, I have some pretty new ones to give away.

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                      Zeal mummy\" post_id=\"2060694\" time=\"1646559030\" user_id=\"58173:[quote=\"Zeal mummy\" post_id=2060694 time=1646559030 user_id=58173]
                      Perhaps what we need to know is… if LL has given notice or not. As it sounds like notice was given but tenants refused to leave. As so, after 2 months (or more) is up, at wits end, the LL went to terminate the approval so to evict the tenant on the basis of overstaying. Calling police to help, sounds very very very desperate for a contract that ends in 8 months. Are we certain that the tenants have no fault?

                      Disclaimer: I don’t know this agent/LL.. and have no intentions of siding anyone. Just providing a possible scenario.[/quote]
                      From lee_yl, it seems that no 2 months notice was served to the tenants.

                      \"Armed with the HDB termination letter, LL unilaterally terminated the TA with immediate effect.

                      Yes, there is a clause that says LL has to give 2 months notice but how can the tenant continue to stay for 2 months when the HDB approval to rent out whole unit comes to a cease?

                      If they insist to stay put for another 2 months, tenants become illegal overstayer.\"

                      My next question is: Does HDB terminate rental with immediate effect? :?

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                        ChiefKiasu\" post_id=\"2060667\" time=\"1646550421\" user_id=\"3:

                        Yes, I agree. So she had to pay damages on top of the 3 months deposit.
                        That is correct. If LL is found errant in this whole deal, she has to pay that.

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