Comparing Math Enrichment Programmes

[tinker_bell]

Zeal mummy\" post_id=\"2061128\" time=\"1646888892\" user_id=\"58173:[quote=\"Zeal mummy\" post_id=2061128 time=1646888892 user_id=58173]
Nope. This reviewer has mostly negative feedbacks on this book, is recommending other books and he thinks it’s for mid range students.[/quote]

Hmm.. maybe because the reviewer is from Nicklebee math, which cater to GEP & High-ability students..
So from his point of view, the conquer thinking math @ onsponge books are more for the mid range students.

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Are you familiar with the 'get me thinking' books mentioned in the review? Comparing 'conquer onsponge' or 'get me thinking' which book is more useful for math high achievers?

I can't seem to find this 'get me thinking' in popular bookstore. Is it out of print? Only 2nd hand copies are available in carousell.

[Swc]

tinker_bell\" post_id=\"2061146\" time=\"1646892464\" user_id=\"194652:

Hmm.. maybe because the reviewer is from Nicklebee math, which cater to GEP & High-ability students..
So from his point of view, the conquer thinking math @ onsponge books are more for the mid range students.

https://media.karousell.com/media/photos/products/2019/10/04/get_me_thinking_mathematics_p5_visiblemath_1570184795_1e90db36.jpg\">

Are you familiar with the 'get me thinking' books mentioned in the review? Comparing 'conquer onsponge' or 'get me thinking' which book is more useful for math high achievers?

I can't seem to find this 'get me thinking' in popular bookstore. Is it out of print? Only 2nd hand copies are available in carousell.

Standard for Get Me Thinking is pitched at a level higher than OnSponge. The books are only available at Visible Math Academy.

[Zeal mummy]

tinker_bell\" post_id=\"2061146\" time=\"1646892464\" user_id=\"194652:

Comparing 'conquer onsponge' or 'get me thinking' which book is more useful for math high achievers?

Debatable to say which is more useful.. but rather look at how motivated your child is, to do tough problem sums. Conquer is good enough for A1. If it’s still too easy for your child, try MO books.

[tinker_bell]

Swc\" post_id=\"2061162\" time=\"1646902062\" user_id=\"178585:

Standard for Get Me Thinking is pitched at a level higher than OnSponge. The books are only available at Visible Math Academy.

Thank you for sharing! I am looking for such a resource. To target those 4-mark and 5-mark type of challenging psle math questions. I will be buying the https://www.visiblemath.com.sg/get-me-thinking-series from Visible math this weekend.

I have heard from the parent chatgroups, that these challenging 4-mark and 5-mark questions towards the back of paper 2 are \"maths olympaid\" and \"GEP heuristics\" type of questions. To help MOE differentiate between the primary 6 students scoring AL1 versus AL2. I hope that the get me thinking books will help in that area.

[tinker_bell]

Zeal mummy\" post_id=\"2061166\" time=\"1646904854\" user_id=\"58173:[quote=\"Zeal mummy\" post_id=2061166 time=1646904854 user_id=58173]
Debatable to say which is more useful.. but rather look at how motivated your child is, to do tough problem sums. Conquer is good enough for A1. If it’s still too easy for your child, try MO books.[/quote]

My kid is very motivated for maths and science. Not so much for the languages.

I will be getting the get me thinking books first and work from there. Maybe after that can move onto maths olympaid books.

[Zeal mummy]

tinker_bell\" post_id=\"2061278\" time=\"1646988892\" user_id=\"194652:

My kid is very motivated for maths and science. Not so much for the languages.

I will be getting the get me thinking books first and work from there. Maybe after that can move onto maths olympaid books.

I’m happy for you that your child loves math and sci! Hope he likes the “thinking” book, tell us how you find it. Might have to go down to their center to buy.

[Swc]

tinker_bell\" post_id=\"2061272\" time=\"1646988410\" user_id=\"194652:

Thank you for sharing! I am looking for such a resource. To target those 4-mark and 5-mark type of challenging psle math questions. I will be buying the https://www.visiblemath.com.sg/get-me-thinking-series from Visible math this weekend.

I have heard from the parent chatgroups, that these challenging 4-mark and 5-mark questions towards the back of paper 2 are \"maths olympaid\" and \"GEP heuristics\" type of questions. To help MOE differentiate between the primary 6 students scoring AL1 versus AL2. I hope that the get me thinking books will help in that area.

The 4 or 5 marks problem are not really MO question types. Definitely heuristic. I do find the Get Me Thinking very useful for such 4 or 5 marks problem sums. The solution they provide are very clear and provide step by step explanations so you can \"see\" the thinking process.

However, Get Me Thinking do not cover all topics. They only cover topics that have those 4 to 5 marks problem sums. So for eg, they won't cover graphs or angles.

MO type questions - best still try MO books.

[tinker_bell]

Swc\" post_id=\"2061300\" time=\"1647048400\" user_id=\"178585:

The 4 or 5 marks problem are not really MO question types. Definitely heuristic. I do find the Get Me Thinking very useful for such 4 or 5 marks problem sums. The solution they provide are very clear and provide step by step explanations so you can \"see\" the thinking process.

However, Get Me Thinking do not cover all topics. They only cover topics that have those 4 to 5 marks problem sums. So for eg, they won't cover graphs or angles.

MO type questions - best still try MO books.

Thank you for sharing! I hope the get me thinking books will be suitable for my kid!

Any MO books to recommend for the psle math type of challenging questions?

[SG_KP1]

tinker_bell\" post_id=\"2061376\" time=\"1647128450\" user_id=\"194652:

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Any MO books to recommend for the psle math type of challenging questions?

One advantage (or at least characteristic) of the current AL System is that 90 or 100 still gets AL1. IMO, there is less of a need to build-up the warchest / tool set to be able to solve all of the questions that may come your way on the actual paper. In contrast, under t-score there were definitely students maxing out the paper, and even a low A* was giving up points (in the aggregate total score).

Of course, as you have seen the papers and questions do seem to fluctuate year-to-year, so it is possible there's 10+ points of \"challenging\" questions to try and divided AL1 vs. AL2. But I'm not sure this is the case in most years, and if a student is able to get through most of the paper clean (i.e. no careless errors - easier said than done) then he/she should be able to withstand missing 1 or 2 of the challenging questions and still obtain AL1.

This is not to say don't build up the math skills if the student is otherwise interested in Math. But for the PSLE paper itself it may not be necessary....

Good luck!

[tinker_bell]

SG_KP1\" post_id=\"2061396\" time=\"1647137769\" user_id=\"188234:

One advantage (or at least characteristic) of the current AL System is that 90 or 100 still gets AL1. IMO, there is less of a need to build-up the warchest / tool set to be able to solve all of the questions that may come your way on the actual paper. In contrast, under t-score there were definitely students maxing out the paper, and even a low A* was giving up points (in the aggregate total score).

Of course, as you have seen the papers and questions do seem to fluctuate year-to-year, so it is possible there's 10+ points of \"challenging\" questions to try and divided AL1 vs. AL2. But I'm not sure this is the case in most years, and if a student is able to get through most of the paper clean (i.e. no careless errors - easier said than done) then he/she should be able to withstand missing 1 or 2 of the challenging questions and still obtain AL1.

This is not to say don't build up the math skills if the student is otherwise interested in Math. But for the PSLE paper itself it may not be necessary....

Good luck!

Ah understood.. Thank you for sharing this perspective!