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1. I think it was someone else who first compared the 2 schools. So let’s stop here.
2. I have always thought there are only Catholics and Protestants, methodists are protestants. There are catholic holidays and there are protestant holidays. Have to agree that it is something very basic to students from mission schools.
3. There is no “speak only Chinese” days in school.
4. Students from SAP schools converse primarily in English, even though they are also very comfortable speaking in Chinese. Most of them are effectively bilingual in English and in Chinese.
5. If there are any other comments on students from sap and non sap schools, please bring it to the relevant thread. This thread is for networking between parents of current students and parents of potential students.. -
RockstarMommy\" post_id=\"2065225\" time=\"1650720216\" user_id=\"197911:
You’re gotten it wrong, it was someone else who compared that. I think the original poster did not say this negatively, it was something of value and she liked it.
You were the one who compared the religiosity of MGS and SNGS, claiming that SNGS is less religious than the former. Not me. I merely corrected you, saying that your impression might be due to the fact that the two religions are different in the way they express themselves. And not that SN is lower in religiosity. Essentially Roman Catholicism is different from Protestantism. Your not knowing that Methodist falls under the Protestant group is an independent point, and doesn’t change things.
You see? Being in a mission school - even Catholic ones certainly make a difference, the graduates of mission schools all know about these “Christian basic things”. It is very hard not to absorb anything about the religion when it’s your environment for that long (6 years for students who enter the secondary school only to IP program) and up to 12 years for somebody enrolled from primary 1 to JC2 of the IP program.
I’ve attended 12 years of mission school and know the different denominations well. You cant compare an apple with an Orange just because they are all fruits. Moreover, your personal opinion is not representative of all SAP schools. -
RockstarMommy\" post_id=\"2065224\" time=\"1650719692\" user_id=\"197911:
And…Methodist is a subset of Protestantism. So, you are not wrong… but it’s a subset. Bear in mind that Anglican/catholic/Methodist schools could function differently.
Methodists are Protestants.
I believe that as an alumni of 11 years, just based on that, which means my own immeasurable first -hand experience of a SAP school, and not to mention all the people I must have known from school and also my husband’s who also graduated from a SAP school, our assessment trumps your anecdotes you got from a few people you know. So probability wise, it is your “friends” who are the exception, not mine.
Moreover since you do not have the experience of having been in a SAP school at all, all those encounters of “friends” were likely a recent affair, something you started looking out when you embarked on this school-hunting journey. Generally parents of toddlers would try to speak some Chinese to their children hoping in vain that their kids pick up some in this English dominated society.
I know because I’m at this life stage so I started to notice a few people at the same stage doing that, even though they only speak English to their spouses and adult friends.
“A majority of Protestants are members of a handful of Protestant denominational families: Adventists, Anabaptists, Anglicans/Episcopalians, Baptists, Calvinist/Reformed, Lutherans, Methodists, Nondenominational, Charismatic, Independent, and other churches are on the rise, and constitute a significant part of Protestantism.”
Source:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protestantism
My eldest is in secondary school and I have childhood friends and close family members who speaks good Chinese because they attended SAP schools. I hope you can try to see things from a wider perspective. -
Actually both of you are correct, there is no "who is right or who is wrong" and "who can represent the school". You all just state your observations for the school. There are so many students in the school therfore each may has different experience with the students. For those who are not Christian, like me, I don’t know anything of Catholic, protestant and Methodist, but the most important is whether our kids are happy to study in the school and get a good exam result. For what happened here, I am thinking of a Chinese Phases 成语，盲人摸象。
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Liew Nga Wing\" post_id=\"2065230\" time=\"1650725606\" user_id=\"195250:[quote=\"Liew Nga Wing\" post_id=2065230 time=1650725606 user_id=195250]
You are correct! 盲人摸象 Indeed. Thank you for pointing this out!
Actually both of you are correct, there is no \"who is right or who is wrong\" and \"who can represent the school\". You all just state your observations for the school. There are so many students in the school therfore each may has different experience with the students. For those who are not Christian, like me, I don't know anything of Catholic, protestant and Methodist, but the most important is whether our kids are happy to study in the school and get a good exam result. For what happened here, I am thinking of a Chinese Phases 成语，盲人摸象。[/quote] -
MerlionInGermany\" post_id=\"2065226\" time=\"1650721554\" user_id=\"2964:
4. Students in Singapore schools converse primarily in English, even though some are also very comfortable speaking in Chinese. Most of the students from SAP schools are effectively bilingual in English and in Chinese.
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4. Students from SAP schools converse primarily in English, even though they are also very comfortable speaking in Chinese. Most of them are effectively bilingual in English and in Chinese.
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There, fixed it for you. You are welcome. -
RockstarMommy\" post_id=\"2065049\" time=\"1650605298\" user_id=\"197911:
The combined number of applicants for Phase 2A1 + 2A2 since 2009:
The hype about 2A need to ballot is overhyped and not true at all. Don’t believe the fearmongers and start doing ridiculous drastic actions like moving house when we are eligible for 2A..
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2009 - 73
2010 - 95
2011 - 92
2012 - 92
2013 - 120
2014 - 98
2015 - 90
2016 - 94
2017 - 101
2018 - 101 - full after Phase 2A1
2019 - 106 - full after Phase 2A2 (out of 106 applicants)
2020 - 101 - full after Phase 2A1 (out of 106 applicants in Phase 2A1)
2021 - 77 - full after Phase 2A1 (out of 126 applicants in Phase 2A1)
1. Macro level birth rates have very little correlation with number of applicants for any particular school in any particular phase.
2. Number of Phase 2A1+2A2 applicants to SNGS has been (remarkably) consistent but on an upward trend since 2017.
3. The hype about 2A need to ballot is NOT overhyped, especially with the revised policy, ie 20 extra seats to be given to Phase 2C. If that extra 20 seats (60 in total) were taken away after Phase 1 in past years, there will be balloting for Phase 2A1+2A2 in every year except for 2009. Fear mongering? Afraid not.
4. Phase 1 determines the likelihood of Phase 2A balloting (ie number of places remaining) BUT the house distance determines the probability of surviving that ballot. >2km would probably get a chance at balloting but if someone has the means to move within 2km and increasing that odds to 100%, why not? Hardly ridiculous and hardly drastic if that’s the school I think best fit my kid.
P/S:: if I’m applying to SNGS and currently <2km, I would definitely prefer everyone stays put
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MerlionInGermany\" post_id=\"2065226\" time=\"1650721554\" user_id=\"2964:
Oh. I was at their assembly once, heard them conducting the session in Chinese, and heard about the \"speak only chinese\" days then. I was suitably impressed by the fluidity of the speakers
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3. There is no “speak only Chinese” days in school.
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Maybe it was only a temporary feature or maybe it was specific to the principal then (she had left since, after like 4 years). Can't really remember her name. Mrs Tan?
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ChiefKiasu\" post_id=\"2065234\" time=\"1650755434\" user_id=\"3:
Assemblies are sometimes conducted in Chinese. They still do that. By “speak only Chinese days”, I had thought you meant the students have days where they speak only Chinese. Which doesnt exist.
Oh. I was at their assembly once, heard them conducting the session in Chinese, and heard about the \"speak only chinese\" days then. I was suitably impressed by the fluidity of the speakers Maybe it was only a temporary feature or maybe it was specific to the principal then (she had left since, after like 4 years). Can't really remember her name. Mrs Tan?
I think the Mrs Tan you are referring to, was principal for 5 years. Current principal is also a Mrs Tan.
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floppy\" post_id=\"2065232\" time=\"1650744759\" user_id=\"97579:
Yes, most students converse in English, SAP and non SAP. Just that this came from the discussion between former students and observer, that SAP school students speak Chinese to each other. :siam:
4. Students in Singapore schools converse primarily in English, even though some are also very comfortable speaking in Chinese. Most of the students from SAP schools are effectively bilingual in English and in Chinese.
There, fixed it for you. You are welcome.
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