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    • D3-nD Offline
      D3-n
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      Zeal mummy\" post_id=\"2069252\" time=\"1654040451\" user_id=\"58173:[quote=\"Zeal mummy\" post_id=2069252 time=1654040451 user_id=58173]
      Hi Dean,

      Would you have experience with this text? Fahrenheit 451.

      Asking for a friend, son would like to get some help on how to do well for literature/SS with this text. Thanks![/quote]
      Hi Zeal mummy,

      I do. My school has in fact chosen this as one of the O Levels text. Unfortunately, my schedule is now fully packed until October. So if he is taking his O's this year, I'm afraid I won't be available to help.

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      • Zeal mummyZ Offline
        Zeal mummy
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        D3@n\" post_id=\"2069260\" time=\"1654043837\" user_id=\"124020:

        Hi Zeal mummy,

        I do. My school has in fact chosen this as one of the O Levels text. Unfortunately, my schedule is now fully packed until October. So if he is taking his O's this year, I'm afraid I won't be available to help.
        Thank you for the reply, Dean!

        May I ask, what do you mean by “your school”? I thought you were from a tuition center. Pardon me if I missed it if you had mentioned it before. Are you currently still a sec sch teacher?

        .. How do you help a student to do well for this text? If you don’t mind, could you help suggest a few tips or themes to look out for? I think I need a general direction how to go about and I would try to guide him along. I would also like to know what role does SS play when it’s combined humanities.

        My current understanding is that the student will be required to know the plot well but the exam paper will not test how well he knows the story. Rather, the focus is more on the effect of language use for the PBQ, and the themes and characters for the essay-type question. So he needs to read the story, annotate, unpack it, and re-organise it to list and understand the various aspects of the text. He needs to identify the language use, analyse the evidence, then explain and elaborate it. Also, annotation is a very important element required for Literature.

        Would appreciate and welcome any suggestions or feedbacks! Many thanks!

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        • ChiefKiasuC Offline
          ChiefKiasu
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          Zeal mummy\" post_id=\"2069326\" time=\"1654091453\" user_id=\"58173:[quote=\"Zeal mummy\" post_id=2069326 time=1654091453 user_id=58173]
          ...
          May I ask, what do you mean by “your school”? I thought you were from a tuition center. Pardon me if I missed it if you had mentioned it before. Are you currently still a sec sch teacher?
          ...[/quote]
          I still remember I had quite a literature teacher in Sec 2. My actual teacher was pregnant and dropped out after a while for her motherly responsibilities, so we were taken by the PE teacher. Her style is to simply tell us to read aloud the text and underline what she said, word for word. The text was \"King's Solomon's Mines\" and I couldn't read it afterwards due to all the red underlines in the book!

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          • Zeal mummyZ Offline
            Zeal mummy
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            ChiefKiasu\" post_id=\"2069328\" time=\"1654094248\" user_id=\"3:

            I still remember I had quite a literature teacher in Sec 2. My actual teacher was pregnant and dropped out after a while for her motherly responsibilities, so we were taken by the PE teacher. Her style is to simply tell us to read aloud the text and underline what she said, word for word. The text was \"King's Solomon's Mines\" and I couldn't read it afterwards due to all the red underlines in the book!
            Hey Chief! Thank you for replying, but I don’t see the relevance of your reply to what is being quoted. Could you elaborate? Do you know Dean personally? I wish we could use his expertise here! Thanks!

            Your “situation” still not that bad, after all you only need to underline in red. I had a lit teacher who told us to copy word for word into another book, to do annotation! Oh I remember it for life..

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            • Liew Nga WingL Offline
              Liew Nga Wing
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              Zeal mummy\" post_id=\"2069337\" time=\"1654101971\" user_id=\"58173:[quote=\"Zeal mummy\" post_id=2069337 time=1654101971 user_id=58173]

              Your “situation” still not that bad, after all you only need to underline in red. I had a lit teacher who told us to copy word for word into another book, to do annotation! Oh I remember it for life..[/quote]
              I had a good lit teacher when I was in secondary school. The novel we studied at that time is \"Lord of the Flies\" by William Golding. I still remember my lit teacher who was a lady from the United Kingdom explained to us the theme of the book, the implications behind each characters and the correct way to answer the questions during exam. I am grateful to be her student.

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              • ChiefKiasuC Offline
                ChiefKiasu
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                Zeal mummy\" post_id=\"2069337\" time=\"1654101971\" user_id=\"58173:[quote=\"Zeal mummy\" post_id=2069337 time=1654101971 user_id=58173]
                Hey Chief! Thank you for replying, but I don’t see the relevance of your reply to what is being quoted. Could you elaborate? Do you know Dean personally? I wish we could use his expertise here! Thanks!

                Your “situation” still not that bad, after all you only need to underline in red. I had a lit teacher who told us to copy word for word into another book, to do annotation! Oh I remember it for life..[/quote]
                No no... I wasn't exactly replying to Dean. So sorry for the confusion... :oops:

                PS. Copying word for word?! I guess there's always someone worse 😂

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                • D3-nD Offline
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                  Zeal mummy\" post_id=\"2069326\" time=\"1654091453\" user_id=\"58173:[quote=\"Zeal mummy\" post_id=2069326 time=1654091453 user_id=58173]
                  Thank you for the reply, Dean!

                  May I ask, what do you mean by “your school”? I thought you were from a tuition center. Pardon me if I missed it if you had mentioned it before. Are you currently still a sec sch teacher?

                  .. How do you help a student to do well for this text? If you don’t mind, could you help suggest a few tips or themes to look out for? I think I need a general direction how to go about and I would try to guide him along. I would also like to know what role does SS play when it’s combined humanities.

                  My current understanding is that the student will be required to know the plot well but the exam paper will not test how well he knows the story. Rather, the focus is more on the effect of language use for the PBQ, and the themes and characters for the essay-type question. So he needs to read the story, annotate, unpack it, and re-organise it to list and understand the various aspects of the text. He needs to identify the language use, analyse the evidence, then explain and elaborate it. Also, annotation is a very important element required for Literature.

                  Would appreciate and welcome any suggestions or feedbacks! Many thanks![/quote]
                  Hi Zeal Mummy,

                  I was never with any tuition center. I am currently teaching English & Literature in a Secondary School, and also giving private tuition for these subjects - I believe 1-1 sessions are most effective for Languages/Literature as each student's competence and style are different.

                  Your understanding of what a Lit student needs to do it pretty spot-on. :salute:
                  Some of the themes for this book are loss of individual identity, technology's control over mankind, the negative impact of mass media/censorship, knowledge is power etc.
                  Also prepare an analysis of the main characters like Guy, Mildred, Clarisse and Captain Beatty
                  It is quite a hands on process so you need to show him how to apply all these processes that you have mentioned. Knowing is one thing, but it is usually the execution that lets the student down. It is the sensitivity to the text and the application of that knowledge that determine how well the student answers the question.

                  The purpose of a combined Humanities, as with a combined Science is to lessen the academic load of a student without sacrificing scope. You learn half the load of the \"pure\" subject but at least get some exposure to that subject.
                  SS is the only compulsory subject among the combined Humanities. While some may feel that it is a waste of time, it exposes students to the world outside of their own time and space, and broadens their world view. By understanding the world they live in, they are able make more informed decisions in their live, and survive well in our global village when they grow up.
                  SS actually ties in very nicely with Lit as they both show us what it means to be human, and in the process shaping us to be better versions of ourselves.
                  If you look at the themes I mentioned for Fahrenheit, it is a book written in the 1950s, yet the themes of Knowledge/Ignorance, Technology and Power are so ever relevant in today's context.

                  Hope this helps 🙂

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                  • D3-nD Offline
                    D3-n
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                    ChiefKiasu\" post_id=\"2069328\" time=\"1654094248\" user_id=\"3:

                    I still remember I had quite a literature teacher in Sec 2. My actual teacher was pregnant and dropped out after a while for her motherly responsibilities, so we were taken by the PE teacher. Her style is to simply tell us to read aloud the text and underline what she said, word for word. The text was \"King's Solomon's Mines\" and I couldn't read it afterwards due to all the red underlines in the book!
                    I have excellent Literature teachers in both my Secondary School and JC, and they really shape me for who I am today.

                    Sorry to hear about the horrors of how Lit lessons are conducted here. I too have my own observations, experiences and opinions but professionalism forbids me to share any.

                    What I can say though is,
                    - Literature teachers are harder to come by - how to produce such teachers when most parents and students choose to drop it the first chance they get?
                    - don't assume that a school teacher will always be better than a tutor,
                    - don't assume that a teacher from a top school will always be better than one from a neighbourhood school.

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                    • T Offline
                      Toomuchlaundry
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                      D3@n\" post_id=\"2069466\" time=\"1654216990\" user_id=\"124020:

                      I have excellent Literature teachers in both my Secondary School and JC, and they really shape me for who I am today.

                      Sorry to hear about the horrors of how Lit lessons are conducted here. I too have my own observations, experiences and opinions but professionalism forbids me to share any.

                      What I can say though is,
                      - Literature teachers are harder to come by - how to produce such teachers when most parents and students choose to drop it the first chance they get?
                      - don't assume that a school teacher will always be better than a tutor,
                      - don't assume that a teacher from a top school will always be better than one from a neighbourhood school.
                      So glad we have you here! I had a good Lit teacher, she really was very cool and different.

                      Would you be able to share your thoughts on Merchant of Venice? My lower sec child has to do it this year and she is just completely resisting reading it. She keeps saying the language sounds so weird.

                      We also have some issues with the themes. Is Shylock a villain? Is he not a villain? We have to tread carefully here around what is considered acceptable in Shakespearean time vs today. How do we express the role of greed? Is it even greed?

                      Thank you!

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                      • ChiefKiasuC Offline
                        ChiefKiasu
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                        Toomuchlaundry\" post_id=\"2069485\" time=\"1654225457\" user_id=\"197996:

                        So glad we have you here! I had a good Lit teacher, she really was very cool and different.

                        Would you be able to share your thoughts on Merchant of Venice? My lower sec child has to do it this year and she is just completely resisting reading it. She keeps saying the language sounds so weird.

                        We also have some issues with the themes. Is Shylock a villain? Is he not a villain? We have to tread carefully here around what is considered acceptable in Shakespearean time vs today. How do we express the role of greed? Is it even greed?

                        Thank you!
                        Ooh... we did Merchant of Venice in, I think, Sec 3. Shylock was depicted as a villain, then.

                        Is it greed when we start charging people based on \"smelling\"? Well, that is subjective today. We don't charge people for \"smelling\" perfumes, but we charge them for buying a bottle of perfume that carries that \"smell\". So I suppose the principle behind Merchant of Venice still holds today. Shylock remains a villain 😂

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