Application for NUS/NTU Medicine 2021/2022
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SINGAPORE - A record number of polytechnic graduates - 18 - were admitted to the National University of Singapore Yong Loo Lin School of Medicine this year.
The school, which takes in about 300 students annually, admitted between six and seven polytechnic graduates a year for the last three years.
https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/parenting-education/record-number-of-polytechnic-grads-18-of-them-admitted-to-nus-medicine-this-year -
SG_KP1\" post_id=\"2074957\" time=\"1658065735\" user_id=\"188234:
Since 2015 our medical schools have been fine tuning their admission criteria to be inclusive and diverse. With students from other institution and JCs which bring along with their diverse knowledge, range of skills and abilities. The days of just getting students of stellar grades from top schools are no longer a requisite. Such revamping is good and beneficial for a healthy diverse healthcare system.
https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/parenting-education/record-number-of-polytechnic-grads-18-of-them-admitted-to-nus-medicine-this-year
Unfortunately for many aspirant who want to study medicine, they have to be better prepared for a tough road and journey ahead. These medical schools will be more competitive as the slots become smaller due to diversion. The cake is still the same size but more people are biting into it. Thus some gotta win and some gotta lose in this race. Being the race hurdles are higher and complex now.
For your interest: -
https://onestop-portal.blogspot.com/2019/07/nus-medical-school-sees-greater.html?m=1
https://www.asiaone.com/singapore/nus-medical-school-sees-more-diverse-student-mix -
Desmond Tang\" post_id=\"2066339\" time=\"1651725184\" user_id=\"185268:[quote=\"Desmond Tang\" post_id=2066339 time=1651725184 user_id=185268]
I would like to lend encouragement and hopes for those future medical student prospect that are keen on studying Medicine. Do not give up hope in pursuing your medical passion and dreams.
You will be notified if you are being placed on their reserve list and at the same time also be offered the next course of your choice while waiting for the outcome. If no notification received then you are not on the reserve list.
I have seen not once but thrice how my son been through the tedious and rigorous stages of preparing the applications for medicine submission. In year 2019 for NUS and NTU, got both interviews, unsuccessful for NUS but on NTU wait-list and also no chance after a very long wait. Reason being the wait-list was far too long verses the vacated slots available.
Just last year 2021 he tried his chance again through NUS ABAS and also not successful. He didn't take the BMAT thus did not apply for NTU. He was so confident this year cos got ground experience and very good referees as compared to previous year. There were many factors in play in their selection processes and also many top talented candidates. Not surprised that it is not easy to get to study medicine in our three local medical universities.
Like the common saying that even though many doors were shut but opportunities do exist at the next door being opened. He was offered a full scholarship from NTU (Year 2019) to pursue healthcare science as an alternatives to medicine. Coupled with a NTU-DUKE NUS Medical Pathway (on conditional terms and only 10 top students will be admitted) to study medicine after his post-graduate degrees. Even if he is still not able to get to study medicine this time again, he is still able to take up a career in the area of specialize aspect of biomedical science or allied health profession.
They always say time changes things, but you actually have to change them yourself. Understand at times we can't get over what had happened and still fail to make it even as we tried so hard. Most importantly we must have a positive mindset and with a strong will there will be a way as it leads us to Rome. When we look back later part in life at those time changes, we may be surprised by what had changes from without and within us.
If we can dream it, we can do it. Best wishes for the bright future ahead!
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I am putting into perspective how my DS had gone through all the hurdles and finally overcome the obstacles to pursue his passion and dreams. In 2019 he had applied with YLLSoM and LKCSoM to study Medicine. Got both interviews and failed to be shortlisted. Yes, he was saddened by the outcome but the flame of his desire has not been extinguished. He then went on to serve his BMT and choose Combat Medic as his vocation. He wants to learn and to get hands on experience on how to rescue and apply first aid on those army soldiers that got injured during rigorous training in the field. After ORD he went on to apply a part-time job as a Vaccinator and worked at a Vaccination Center. As he equipped himself with all the relevant resume, he then applied through ABAS with YLLSoM in 2022 and also was not successful. Those referee and teacher that supported him in his application were also saddened by the outcome. Some of them thoughtfully advised him to change his course of desire and take up the next subject of choice that he had chosen in 2019.
Fortunately in 2019 he had make a wise choice for his option to take up a course that has a tie-up with a medical university with conditional medical pathway. My DS is now in the double major degree course, got interviewed on July 2022 by the medical university and was offered the conditional medical pathway to pursue medicine along with his other degree course on August 2022. It would be altogether a 8 years commitment (e.g. NTU 4 years and Duke NUS 4 years) as compared to the MBBS route which is only 5 years. He is happy that he got to study his degree course of choice and still able to continue to pursue medicine as well. Finally he has managed to jump over the dragon gate and I wish him all the best in all his endeavor.
The route to study medicine may be tough and competitive but with strong desire and determination, I hope those aspirant students do not give up their passion and hopes. Look through the horizon and try again, may you see beautiful rainbow and light at the other end of the tunnel. -
Desmond Tang\" post_id=\"2078915\" time=\"1660812240\" user_id=\"185268:[quote=\"Desmond Tang\" post_id=2078915 time=1660812240 user_id=185268]
Hi Desmond,
I would like to lend encouragement and hopes for those future medical student prospect that are keen on studying Medicine. Do not give up hope in pursuing your medical passion and dreams.
I am putting into perspective how my DS had gone through all the hurdles and finally overcome the obstacles to pursue his passion and dreams. In 2019 he had applied with YLLSoM and LKCSoM to study Medicine. Got both interviews and failed to be shortlisted. Yes, he was saddened by the outcome but the flame of his desire has not been extinguished. He then went on to serve his BMT and choose Combat Medic as his vocation. He wants to learn and to get hands on experience on how to rescue and apply first aid on those army soldiers that got injured during rigorous training in the field. After ORD he went on to apply a part-time job as a Vaccinator and worked at a Vaccination Center. As he equipped himself with all the relevant resume, he then applied through ABAS with YLLSoM in 2022 and also was not successful. Those referee and teacher that supported him in his application were also saddened by the outcome. Some of them thoughtfully advised him to change his course of desire and take up the next subject of choice that he had chosen in 2019.
Fortunately in 2019 he had make a wise choice for his option to take up a course that has a tie-up with a medical university with conditional medical pathway. My DS is now in the double major degree course, got interviewed on July 2022 by the medical university and was offered the conditional medical pathway to pursue medicine along with his other degree course on August 2022. It would be altogether a 8 years commitment (e.g. NTU 4 years and Duke NUS 4 years) as compared to the MBBS route which is only 5 years. He is happy that he got to study his degree course of choice and still able to continue to pursue medicine as well. Finally he has managed to jump over the dragon gate and I wish him all the best in all his endeavor.
The route to study medicine may be tough and competitive but with strong desire and determination, I hope those aspirant students do not give up their passion and hopes. Look through the horizon and try again, may you see beautiful rainbow and light at the other end of the tunnel.[/quote]
有志者事竟成, Where there is a will, there will be a way. A few days ago, I am talking about the negative emotions when things are not up to the expectations of parents and I was thinking of those posts from you before. It is because you have always giving us encouragement and hope 正能量，enable us to see the brightside even your DS route to study medicine is tough and he could also climb up and try again..This 不屈不挠的精神 is what kids need to learn. Reading your posts make me feel I am walking under the sun....so warm.....有优秀的父亲，就有优秀的孩子. All the best to your DS. -
Liew Nga Wing\" post_id=\"2079199\" time=\"1661005378\" user_id=\"195250:[quote=\"Liew Nga Wing\" post_id=2079199 time=1661005378 user_id=195250]
Thank you for your thoughts.
Hi Desmond,
有志者事竟成, Where there is a will, there will be a way. A few days ago, I am talking about the negative emotions when things are not up to the expectations of parents and I was thinking of those posts from you before. It is because you have always giving us encouragement and hope 正能量，enable us to see the brightside even your DS route to study medicine is tough and he could also climb up and try again..This 不屈不挠的精神 is what kids need to learn. Reading your posts make me feel I am walking under the sun....so warm.....有优秀的父亲，就有优秀的孩子. All the best to your DS.[/quote]
Life's problems wouldn't be called hurdles if there wasn't a way to get over them. Sometimes the hurdles aren’t really hurdles at all. They’re welcome challenges, tests. You come out stronger after overcoming the difficulties.
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I have kick-start a new thread \"Application for NUS/NTU/DUKE-NUS Medicine 2023/2024\" here, please crossover here to share your views - https://www.kiasuparents.com/kiasu/forum/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=102955&p=2081361#p2081361
I have started this thread early for the AY2023/24 medicine admissions with the thoughts for concern parents like us that would like to find out about studying medicine and then sharing it with their DD/DS in planning their course of study wisely. It's not just for parents to chat over here, aspirant students for medicine can also post their doubts and concern over here. This chat group here is to share information and stay updated on medicine admissions matters. Besides what we can discuss about YLLSoM (NUS) and LKCSoM (NTU), I have also included another School of Medicine - DUKE NUS as well. It would be interesting to know how the path to medicine has changed over the years and one has to plan earlier and make a wise decision towards their choice of course to study.
Hopefully this chat group will be a fruitful experience for both parents and our DD/DS herein. -
I’m not trying to splash cold water onto you guys with regards to the application for medicine in Singapore. Do bear in mind that it’s way much harder than you thought in just getting an offer to study medicine.
My DS had a perfect score academically (which I heard there are around 1,300 students achieved perfect scores every year), along with a 8.0 BMAT result (about 95 percentile), and had volunteered work at the Community Centre alongside a MP for close to 2 years, went for the interviews, and got rejected at both NUS and NTU applications. After which, he went on to apply to four UK universities, went for another 4 interviews with these four universities, all got rejected. Most recently, he applied for three Australia universities, went for the interviews as usual, and finally finally he got an offer from one of the Australian universities.
What I’m trying to say here is that the application journey for medicine was extremely traumatizing, both for the parents and my DS, with disappointment after disappointments. Over the last 1.5 years while he was in NS, all his annual leaves were applied for medicine interviews. Can’t imagine that he had to go through nine interviews sessions, each for a couple of hours, to finally get this precious offer. In addition to all these traumatic anxieties, the parents now have to prepare to part a total of around S$500,000 for the school fee, plus $120,000 for food & lodging.
So my sincere advice to all potential applicants, do prepare to arm yourselves with great determination to face the challenges. And for parents, the outrages school fees. -
Thank you for your sharing.
Yes, this is not the first time I am hearing of distraught / helpless parents, witnessing the disappointment of their kids who are unable to get a place in local universities to read Medicine. Fortunately, your child has supportive parents who are willing to support his/her ambitions and convictions to pursue Medicine.
I think many people may not realize that the "competition pool" extends beyond perfect scorers - you do not need 90 RP be shortlisted for Medicine - it’s usually some way off, though mostly As. Similarly, for IB, you don’t need 44 or 45 to get shortlisted. Once you are shortlisted, your performance in other aspects matter. So do your feferrals (which you do not get to see) for local universities. It’s very difficult and just not possible to understand why some who may have fared poorer academically, or did not have as stellar a CCA record, get a place, whereas others, don’t. Unlike the old days where only triple science students are eligible to apply for Medicine, under the current system, PCM and BCM students can apply for Medicine, which is a large pool.
My kids on the other hand, in spite of the exposure we had given them, both decided early on that Medicine is not for them. I heaved a sense of relief - at least I won’t have to confront the financial undertaking of supporting kids to study Medicine overseas if they don’t make it to the local university. -
MadMed\" post_id=\"2081370\" time=\"1662541457\" user_id=\"197965:
I fully agree and empathize with you and your DS over the whole application process. It has not been easy but it's good to know that your DS finally get to pursue his medical passion.
I’m not trying to splash cold water onto you guys with regards to the application for medicine in Singapore. Do bear in mind that it’s way much harder than you thought in just getting an offer to study medicine.
My DS had a perfect score academically (which I heard there are around 1,300 students achieved perfect scores every year), along with a 8.0 BMAT result (about 95 percentile), and had volunteered work at the Community Centre alongside a MP for close to 2 years, went for the interviews, and got rejected at both NUS and NTU applications. After which, he went on to apply to four UK universities, went for another 4 interviews with these four universities, all got rejected. Most recently, he applied for three Australia universities, went for the interviews as usual, and finally finally he got an offer from one of the Australian universities.
What I’m trying to say here is that the application journey for medicine was extremely traumatizing, both for the parents and my DS, with disappointment after disappointments. Over the last 1.5 years while he was in NS, all his annual leaves were applied for medicine interviews. Can’t imagine that he had to go through nine interviews sessions, each for a couple of hours, to finally get this precious offer. In addition to all these traumatic anxieties, the parents now have to prepare to part a total of around S$500,000 for the school fee, plus $120,000 for food & lodging.
So my sincere advice to all potential applicants, do prepare to arm yourselves with great determination to face the challenges. And for parents, the outrages school fees.
Yes, all medical aspirant who want to pursue medicine must be mentally prepared to face challenges, stress and disappointment. Your passion for medicine must start off from your Secondary School days. You must study Physic/Chemistry/Biology as your subjects. Also do well in your MTL. Especially Biology seemed to be the criteria for all things. Your academic excellence, CCA, valuable voluntary works and network of referees start from here as you build your base.
Maintain your network of important contacts and the organization institution that you have volunteered and attached. Your teachers, contacts and volunteer work will provide you with strong credentials and testimonials. Keep them in your records and don't lose them.
Do the same thing as you go on to Junior College. Your JC teachers are important too. Most students who opt to study in JC are good in their studies and they take their subjects at H2 or H3 level. Also keep abreast of our healthcare systems and the events that are unfolding.
You must have excellent academic results and credentials to apply for medicine. Even with your top academic results, leadership/shadowing work/volunteer work and good referees does not guarantee you a smooth route to medicine. There are plenty of top students vying for a place to study medicine at all the medicine school, very competitive and the number of places available so limited. So only the best of the best are being selected.
So when selecting your university courses be prudent and wise, do not put your course option to waste. Do not just have the thought that medicine is your only passion and hope. Try looking into the horizon, there are rainbow of opportunities. If you have laid your options well like study dentist/study TCM/Biomedical Sciences/Pharmacist/Phycologist etc... You are still on the path of healthcare studies. After acquiring your degree you decide to apply for medicine again or just proceed to take up an allied healthcare job with a great institution as your career. Everyone of these great students that didn't make it to medicine, they are doing great things with their acquired knowledge of know how helping and contributing to our healthcare services.
What I want to say is all is not lost even if you didn't get to do medicine. You are still very unique and special in other ways.
As this thread is too long already, I hope those who would like to contribute their experiences go over to https://www.kiasuparents.com/kiasu/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2081361#p2081361
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