Me Time!
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zac's mum\" post_id=\"2086330\" time=\"1666311737\" user_id=\"53606:[quote=\"zac's mum\" post_id=2086330 time=1666311737 user_id=53606]
Staying at home... read a novel, cleaning up the house or buy a boardgames and play with Zac.
Read thru only & comment should be fine. It’s always good to have a 2nd or 3rd opinion especially such an impt doc haha.
I dont know what to do over the long weekend. Past few days every day went out so tiring.[/quote]
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MrsKiasu\" post_id=\"2086328\" time=\"1666311051\" user_id=\"43981:
As long as they are still the writer and all the ideas are theirs. There isn't a rule that you can't ask anyone to read and comment - supervisors will, anyway. And asking someone to proofread has always been acceptable as long as it is only for simple errors.
Can master students do that?
It can be a slippery slope though - some people may ask for and accept a lot more help than just comments and proofreading, and at the extreme, there are those essay writing services that promise to write the whole thesis for you! That last one, if the student is found out, will mean that the thesis gets rejected. -
ChiefKiasu\" post_id=\"2086332\" time=\"1666312638\" user_id=\"3:
Chief, I was just thinking about the 'originality' of the work.. some people will have more passion than the others..agree.. and due to certain factors that piece of work may somehow fall below expectations.. I think not unusual kind of circumstances. But it should be that person's own job/efforts that should be evaluated right? :?
Lol. I've read hundreds of thesis documents so far as a project supervisor. It's easy to tell the difference between someone who just want to get the assignment over with, and someone who really CARES about the topic he/she is researching. And that's what determines the grade. -
slmkhoo\" post_id=\"2086334\" time=\"1666312897\" user_id=\"28674:
That is no good..haiz..
As long as they are still the writer and all the ideas are theirs. There isn't a rule that you can't ask anyone to read and comment - supervisors will, anyway. And asking someone to proofread has always been acceptable as long as it is only for simple errors.
It can be a slippery slope though - some people may ask for and accept a lot more help than just comments and proofreading, and at the extreme, there are those essay writing services that promise to write the whole thesis for you! That last one, if the student is found out, will mean that the thesis gets rejected. -
slmkhoo\" post_id=\"2086334\" time=\"1666312897\" user_id=\"28674:
I think this is considered as \"Cheating\", not only the thesis gets rejected, the students should be given a demerit.
... there are those essay writing services that promise to write the whole thesis for you! That last one, if the student is found out, will mean that the thesis gets rejected. -
slmkhoo\" post_id=\"2086334\" time=\"1666312897\" user_id=\"28674:
Do we need to write thesis for masters? I did my mba at Nus and my friends did masters in financial engineering but We don’t recall writing anything. In my undergrad direct honours program, I only recalled doing FYP that’s all….
As long as they are still the writer and all the ideas are theirs. There isn't a rule that you can't ask anyone to read and comment - supervisors will, anyway. And asking someone to proofread has always been acceptable as long as it is only for simple errors.
It can be a slippery slope though - some people may ask for and accept a lot more help than just comments and proofreading, and at the extreme, there are those essay writing services that promise to write the whole thesis for you! That last one, if the student is found out, will mean that the thesis gets rejected. -
There can be many writings to do. I have one that of more exam and final in writing… and another all writings at the later modules which is more than 50% of the whole.
So if there is help in the piece of write-up…hmm I personally feel the unfair advantage there…
But in our ksp kaki case, very likely more on flow/language la I guess… -
It probably depends on the field of study. Not necessarily for language majors only.
For Science-related, even my undergrad honours required a thesis writeup of our 1-year lab project. And viva voce (thesis defence) in front of a panel of 3 supervisors (1 being own supervisor). Masters and PhD would be proportionately longer number of words. -
Imp75\" post_id=\"2086339\" time=\"1666314309\" user_id=\"2358:
Some Masters have a dissertation requirement, but some are \"by coursework only\". In general, the social science and humanities ones tend to require a thesis, while some of the science-y ones may not. It depends on how the course is drawn up.
Do we need to write thesis for masters? I did my mba at Nus and my friends did masters in financial engineering but We don’t recall writing anything. In my undergrad direct honours program, I only recalled doing FYP that’s all….
FYP is considered a mini-thesis, and gives students a chance to try their hand at it. Not all undergrad courses require an FYP - depends on the university and the course. At least in my daughter's course at NTU, it could be replaced by coursework (but would limit the class of degree). -
MrsKiasu\" post_id=\"2086341\" time=\"1666314776\" user_id=\"43981:
At postgrad level, and even at undergrad level, the thesis is mostly judged on research, thought, arguments, proofs, experiments, etc. I doubt very much weight is placed on typos, small grammar errors, etc, unless they are so pervasive that the thesis cannot be understood well. It's not like school where 0.5 marks will be deducted for each spelling error or whatever! And postgrad theses are usually pass/fail, so small differences based on quality of writing or language errors won't make any difference in the outcome. As far as I know, in the various universities I have studied at or had contact with, there has never been any prohibition on a student discussing the content with supervisor and friends, getting comments, or asking for help in spotting errors like spelling, punctuation, grammar etc. In fact, what will probably influence the outcome more are the earlier discussions with supervisor, coursemates, etc to decide the scope and structure the thesis, what data needs to be collected, etc.
There can be many writings to do. I have one that of more exam and final in writing.. and another all writings at the later modules which is more than 50% of the whole.
So if there is help in the piece of write-up..hmm I personally feel the unfair advantage there..
But in our ksp kaki case, very likely more on flow/language la I guess..
As I said, it's a slippery slope - at some point, the help might become almost like rewriting. Which is why many theses also have to be examined \"viva voce\" - the student has to make a presentation, answer questions, make a defence, etc. And it has to based on the student's (and friends' and supervisor's) integrity to a large extent. Otherwise all grading will have to be based on exams.
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