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    • starlight1968sgS Offline
      starlight1968sg
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      Tks ladies for sharing.

      Guess I hv one task sorted - pay for return airfare to Clark and pay for the 15 days of salary when helper is away.

      What is the procedure to inform MOM that I dont hv to pay for the 15 days of levy? Tks.

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      • doodbugD Offline
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        MOM does not require us to pay salary to FDW during home leave.


        But for Filipino domestic helpers, in order for FDW (Phillipines) to return to SG to work, she will need to get the employment contract verified by the Philippines Embassy. The standard contract issued by Embassy and used by many maid agencies have the clause that they are entitled to paid leave. If you sign a contract that doesnt provide for paid leave, not sure if it can be verified by Phillipines Embassy

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        • starlight1968sgS Offline
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          Any mum has sent her aged parent to respite care when helper is away?

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          • starlight1968sgS Offline
            starlight1968sg
            last edited by

            doodbug\" post_id=\"2097535\" time=\"1676355858\" user_id=\"13281:

            MOM does not require us to pay salary to FDW during home leave.

            But for Filipino domestic helpers, in order for FDW (Phillipines) to return to SG to work, she will need to get the employment contract verified by the Philippines Embassy. The standard contract issued by Embassy and used by many maid agencies have the clause that they are entitled to paid leave. If you sign a contract that doesnt provide for paid leave, not sure if it can be verified by Phillipines Embassy
            So a DIY contract is invalid to Philippines Embassy?

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            • doodbugD Offline
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              starlight1968sg\" post_id=\"2097538\" time=\"1676357016\" user_id=\"14025:

              So a DIY contract is invalid to Philippines Embassy?
              You can try or call agent up to check if DIY contracts can get verified. I used the standard contract by Philippines Embassy.

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              • starlight1968sgS Offline
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                doodbug\" post_id=\"2097539\" time=\"1676357304\" user_id=\"13281:

                You can try or call agent up to check if DIY contracts can get verified. I used the standard contract by Philippines Embassy.
                I DIY contract and hence I hv no agent. I will ask my helper to sort this out. Tks

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                • doodbugD Offline
                  doodbug
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                  starlight1968sg\" post_id=\"2097541\" time=\"1676357784\" user_id=\"14025:

                  I DIY contract and hence I hv no agent. I will ask my helper to sort this out. Tks
                  I donno how literate your FDW is but mine was not capable enough to see through the processes even after being in Singapore for more than 10 years, because the processes grew way more complicated over the past couple of years. This is her 3rd trip home (under me), and she had gone home many times prior to working for me.

                  Most employers will not risk it if they want their FDWs back, as it is darn troublesome if the FDW doesn't have all the paperwork in order to return to SG, before she goes back to Philippines.

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                  • EstéemaE Offline
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                    starlight1968sg\" post_id=\"2097528\" time=\"1676353891\" user_id=\"14025:


                    Her 1st contract (2019-2021) has a statement that if she extends her contract, she will be entitled to 15 days of paid leave (inclusive of a return airfare to her City of origin).
                    So finally u’stand why u hv been thinking u need to pay yr helper for taking home leave even tho she’s not working.

                    I’ve many KSP members msg me & informed that their agents gave them pino helper’s contracts that build in “annual home leave with paid airfare”; “rest days for all public holidays inclusive SG & Philippines PH”; now I hear u having to pay for paid homeleave even tho it is not require. Typical of agencies with pino staff. I hope Eyers realize that whilst in SG, all FDW follow local MOM legislation & there’s no obligation to provide PH applicable only when they’re working in the Philippines. Most local FDW (incl other nationalities) dont event get PH as a rest day, except for some families, they get to rest when the families are away or join the host families for paid vacation.

                    I wld suggest for eyers to compare mkt practice then to be rushed by agents simply reading thro “main points” of contract before signing so as not to build any additional payments or benefits abv & more then what our local legislation & practices require, so that u do not cast them in stone unnecessarily & hv little room to adjust. Anything u want to give more & abv can be done on adhoc or ex-gratia basis.

                    Some reasons why I go with common practices :-

                    1. Consistent to both legal & common practices so helper’s don’t compare in an uninformed manner & I don’t disrupt or rock mkt practices. This will mean I build only at the end of contract & families who badly need helper’s but cannot support higher base-salary & benefit to be compared out of reach to engage helpers

                    2. Helper’s tend to compare only how much eyer’s give as salary but they do not distinguish what is std mkt rate, what is paying for appreciation, what is paying out of desperation of retention of domestic help, etc. Best eyers do not ‘pamper’ helpers when crafting contracts, but reward good performance & abilities separately. This motivates the helper on her job.

                    I’m appalled by despicable agencies or their engaged eyees who act on vested interests w/o properly & fairly informing 1st time Eyers looking to hire domestic helpers.

                    Hope the abv helps give insight & perspectives to young Eyers.

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                    • EstéemaE Offline
                      Estéema
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                      During yr helper’s absence, u might wanna explore NTUC Health Co-op.


                      They hv several locations, so u can arrange to be near u or yr dad’s current home in Tampines.

                      Hope it helps.

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                      • starlight1968sgS Offline
                        starlight1968sg
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                        Estéema\" post_id=\"2097551\" time=\"1676362786\" user_id=\"66413:

                        So finally u’stand why u hv been thinking u need to pay yr helper for taking home leave even tho she’s not working.

                        I’ve many KSP members msg me & informed that their agents gave them pino helper’s contracts that build in “annual home leave with paid airfare”; “rest days for all public holidays inclusive SG & Philippines PH”; now I hear u having to pay for paid homeleave even tho it is not require. Typical of agencies with pino staff. I hope Eyers realize that whilst in SG, all FDW follow local MOM legislation & there’s no obligation to provide PH applicable only when they’re working in the Philippines. Most local FDW (incl other nationalities) dont event get PH as a rest day, except for some families, they get to rest when the families are away or join the host families for paid vacation.

                        I wld suggest for eyers to compare mkt practice then to be rushed by agents simply reading thro “main points” of contract before signing so as not to build any additional payments or benefits abv & more then what our local legislation & practices require, so that u do not cast them in stone unnecessarily & hv little room to adjust. Anything u want to give more & abv can be done on adhoc or ex-gratia basis.

                        Some reasons why I go with common practices :-

                        1. Consistent to both legal & common practices so helper’s don’t compare in an uninformed manner & I don’t disrupt or rock mkt practices. This will mean I build only at the end of contract & families who badly need helper’s but cannot support higher base-salary & benefit to be compared out of reach to engage helpers

                        2. Helper’s tend to compare only how much eyer’s give as salary but they do not distinguish what is std mkt rate, what is paying for appreciation, what is paying out of desperation of retention of domestic help, etc. Best eyers do not ‘pamper’ helpers when crafting contracts, but reward good performance & abilities separately. This motivates the helper on her job.

                        I’m appalled by despicable agencies or their engaged eyees who act on vested interests w/o properly & fairly informing 1st time Eyers looking to hire domestic helpers.

                        Hope the abv helps give insight & perspectives to young Eyers.
                        Esteema
                        Yes, for the 1st contract by the agent, it was stated \"upon extension, 15 days of paid leave inclusive of return airfare ...\".
                        For the 2nd contract, I DIY and left the 15 days of paid leave out bec if helper returns to Philippines, she is having her leave and why do i need to pay.
                        For the 3rd ie upcoming contract, most likely I will DIY and will leave this 15 days of paid leave out too. The only issue is if this is acceptable by Philippines Embassy.

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