Anglo-Chinese School (Primary)

[Imp75]

Let’s see if NYPS will be next in line to set up schools in Pasir Ris, Woodlands and Jurong West hahahhahaa.

Honestly Innova JC is one of the newest JC that was built but when merger arrived, Innova moved into YJC, a much older JC. Now Innova is vacant for a few years but what a waste of resources…there aren’t any branded schools in Woodlands at all both pri and sec level yet the population catchment area is huge.

[Hendon]

Veyron\" post_id=\"2097885\" time=\"1676591231\" user_id=\"30663:

AL COP is determined by the AL score of the last student with the lowest score.

JURONG Sec is AL18 while ACS is AL22.

At Jurong Sec an AL19 and above will not be eligible while at ACS an AL22 student will still be accepted.

AL standard is the same regardless if student is affiliated or not and that is the best way to determined the academic standard of sec school. And this contradict your statement that prime district school have higher standard or COP.

Jurong Sec is not the only neighbourhood school with AL COP standard higher that acs AL22.

You are wrong and future parents reading this should know they are going down the wrong rabbit hole here.

[sharonkhoo]

Imp75\" post_id=\"2097888\" time=\"1676593087\" user_id=\"2358:

Let's see if NYPS will be next in line to set up schools in Pasir Ris, Woodlands and Jurong West hahahhahaa.
Honestly Innova JC is one of the newest JC that was built but when merger arrived, Innova moved into YJC, a much older JC. Now Innova is vacant for a few years but what a waste of resources....there aren't any branded schools in Woodlands at all both pri and sec level yet the population catchment area is huge.

For merger of JCs, I believe the reason is that student enrolment in JCs is falling. Catchment area is not so important at JC level. Why an older campus was chosen, I have no idea, but I expect the newer campus will be used for something eventually. Some savings in combining resources (staff, etc) were probably made.

To get back on topic: I don't think that the plan is necessarily to have \"branded\" schools in every HDB estate, but that there should be sufficient schools spread out. Since ACPS was asking for a move, MOE probably suggested school sites that were becoming available.

[Veyron]

Hendon\" post_id=\"2097889\" time=\"1676593366\" user_id=\"142376:

You are wrong and future parents reading this should know they are going down the wrong rabbit hole here.

Indicative AL COP is according to MOE website unless you have reason to believe that an ACS AL22 is as good as AL18 or better because of ACS school badge and its prime location?

[Imp75]

slmkhoo\" post_id=\"2097891\" time=\"1676593819\" user_id=\"28674:

For merger of JCs, I believe the reason is that student enrolment in JCs is falling. Catchment area is not so important at JC level. Why an older campus was chosen, I have no idea, but I expect the newer campus will be used for something eventually. Some savings in combining resources (staff, etc) were probably made.

To get back on topic: I don't think that the plan is necessarily to have \"branded\" schools in every HDB estate, but that there should be sufficient schools spread out. Since ACPS was asking for a move, MOE probably suggested school sites that were becoming available.

That’s what I am saying, there is a ready campus at woodlands with full facilities and running track/stadium and next door is SSP with swimming facilities. Innova is huge. Why doesn’t ACSP come here instead. The far north needs good schools as well.

[lee_yl]

Veyron\" post_id=\"2097885\" time=\"1676591231\" user_id=\"30663:

AL COP is determined by the AL score of the last student with the lowest score.

JURONG Sec is AL18 while ACS is AL22.

At Jurong Sec an AL19 and above will not be eligible while at ACS an AL22 student will still be accepted.

AL standard is the same regardless if student is affiliated or not and that is the best way to determined the academic standard of sec school. And this contradict your statement that prime district school have higher standard or COP.

Jurong Sec is not the only neighbourhood school with AL COP standard higher that acs AL22.

Do you seriously believe what you just wrote?
A student who got into Jurong Secondary School so long as his AL score does not reach AL10 does not stand a chance to get into ACS Barker. From that perspective, ACS Barker definitely has a higher COP.

If there’s no change to the affiliation policy, I can safely tell you the affiliated COP for MGS will be at AL17 and ACS Barker at AL22 for those taking PSLE this year. The affiliated COP is pre-determined by the board and not set by the last student who got in. So please don’t confuse the 2 concepts.

Again you choose to twist my words. I repeat my views, location of the school matters and I only cited the case of River Valley as a what-if scenario while the historical case of Hwa Chong JC is cited as a validation of my views.

If you insist on your line of arguing, just do a geographical distribution of the top schools in S’pore to see where they are situated. We let the objective facts tell the story

[sharonkhoo]

Imp75\" post_id=\"2097897\" time=\"1676595181\" user_id=\"2358:

That’s what I am saying, there is a ready campus at woodlands with full facilities and running track/stadium and next door is SSP with swimming facilities. Innova is huge. Why doesn’t ACSP come here instead. The far north needs good schools as well.

But maybe the building and facilities are not suitable for a primary and SPED school? Or it's been earmarked for something else? I don't know, and I'm not trying to second-guess. Perhaps you should address this question to ACSP and MOE.

[Liew Nga Wing]

lee_yl\" post_id=\"2097873\" time=\"1676559482\" user_id=\"17023:

Bishan very far flung meh?
I stay in Novena and I only need 10 mins to drive to Bishan or just 3 MRT stations away. On the other hand, where exactly is Tengah? Seriously I have no idea. The petition used “far flung” to describe the location.

And I didn’t state that prime location equals to higher academic standards, my only assertion is that location matters to school. An actual case comes to mind, when Hwa Chong JC was required to relocate to a temporary site in Bukit Batok back in the early 1990’s, the school’s COP took a hit for a few years and only recovered when it moved back to its Bukit Timah site.

ACSP in Tengah could well be a good school but would it be better than had it stayed put in Barker Road? I doubt so and so do all the ACSP alumni and parents. Which is why there is a sense of disquiet among this group.

Think about those Singaporeans staying at Tengah, Bukit Batok and Jurong Area. Why a Government - aided school cannot be shifting to Tengah area. We are also taxpayers to the Government. Why a school have to stay in the present campus and serving the school alumni and the wealthy families staying in Bukit Timah area Forever? If I now put up a petition for supporting the shifting of ACSP to Tengah Area via online, I believe the signatures which will be received - will outnumber the petition for asking it to stay in the present campus. A Government - aided school should be able to shift to anywhere in Singapore.

[floppy]

slmkhoo\" post_id=\"2097891\" time=\"1676593819\" user_id=\"28674:

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To get back on topic: I don't think that the plan is necessarily to have \"branded\" schools in every HDB estate, but that there should be sufficient schools spread out. Since ACPS was asking for a move, MOE probably suggested school sites that were becoming available.

I doubt the intention is to have “branded” schools in every estate. However, if some schools develop into “branded” schools, so be it.

The more logical decision is to based schools (relocation) on population density and urban development. For older schools that are based in the city and seeking a move whether for re-development or rejuvenation, the location offered by MOE / government is likely to follow those principles. I don’t see anything unusual about ACS since it had been the same situation with ATS, CHS, MTS, SNGS, TNS and many others. ACS is just a new inclusion to that list.

I think the issue is mainly with which ACS to move and going co-ed but that’s really up to their BOG to decide and based on whatever factors that they think make sense. At the end of the day, if you move ACSP, prospective ACSP parents will kpkb because they will be affected and will surely ask why not ACSJ. On the other hand, if you move ACSJ, prospective ACSP parents will kpkb because they will be affected and will surely ask why not ACSP.

[Veyron]

lee_yl\" post_id=\"2097898\" time=\"1676595252\" user_id=\"17023:

Do you seriously believe what you just wrote?
A student who got into Jurong Secondary School so long as his AL score does not reach AL10 does not stand a chance to get into ACS Barker. From that perspective, ACS Barker definitely has a higher COP.

If there’s no change to the affiliation policy, I can safely tell you the affiliated COP for MGS will be at AL17 and ACS Barker at AL22 for those taking PSLE this year. The affiliated COP is pre-determined by the board and not set by the last student who got in. So please don’t confuse the 2 concepts.

Again you choose to twist my words. I repeat my views, location of the school matters and I only cited the case of River Valley as a what-if scenario while the historical case of Hwa Chong JC is cited as a validation of my views.

If you insist on your line of arguing, just do a geographical distribution of the top schools in S’pore to see where they are situated. We let the objective facts tell the story

PSLE AL marking standard is the same for all students regardless of location or uniform.

ACS affliation COP is AL22 while Jurong AL COP is AL18.

Just because ACS non affliated COP is AL10 that doesn't mean the school standard is AL10. It only means the ACS studentd are given special privilege.

If ACS doesn't offer affiliation cop for acsp and acsj students, I reckon half of the acs cohort may not even make it to ACS sec with AL10 PSLE.