DSA 2023
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lee_yl\" post_id=\"2098267\" time=\"1676792808\" user_id=\"17023:
Yes. But for a AL4, if perfect A level results is a default anyway, and even if it got a little lower eg from 90rp to 89rp, the extras talent or special program etc offered in RI would be more value add to those in the top top. Or something along the line. Thats could be the fine line between the two?
CCK2008 mentioned the school seems to value-add more than RI. Let’s do some breakdown then.
Based on what floppy said that we need to look at two schools’ median score for comparison.
HCI median rp88, with 3 in 10 scoring rp90
RI mean rp84.4, with 1 in 4 scoring rp90
Next, is to look at the COP for the cohort intake for both schools. So we need to trace back to 2016 PSLE cop, something like tscore 261 for RI and vs 260 for HCI? But back then, HCL bonus (of up to +3) was included in computation of SAP schools’ COP. Another thing to take note is, NYPS girls enjoy affiliation to NYGH with tscore at tscore 250. For JAE intake, I think the COP was 4pts (Sc) and 5pts (Arts) for both JCs then. How about GEP intake? RI or HCI takes in more GEP students each year?
So if my daughter were to enter NYGH via affiliation with 247+3 and 6yrs later scored rp88-90, I will be super duper happy. I definitely prefer schools that value-add than value-subtract.
From the quality of the intake of students to compare the results they churn out after 6 years (or 2yrs for JAE), we can reach our own conclusion which school value-adds more to her students. I guess that’s what CCK2008 meant and if I m not mistaken, I think CCK2008 has two girls from both schools, so inevitably she tends to compare.
I do not gain from this debate abt which top jcs are better. No kid in either. -
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lee_yl\" post_id=\"2098267\" time=\"1676792808\" user_id=\"17023:
Yes. But for a AL4, if perfect A level results is a default anyway, and even if it got a little lower eg from 90rp to 89rp, the extras talent or special program etc offered in RI would be more value add to those in the top top. Or something along the line. Thats could be the fine line between the two?
CCK2008 mentioned the school seems to value-add more than RI. Let’s do some breakdown then.
Based on what floppy said that we need to look at two schools’ median score for comparison.
HCI median rp88, with 3 in 10 scoring rp90
RI mean rp84.4, with 1 in 4 scoring rp90
Next, is to look at the COP for the cohort intake for both schools. So we need to trace back to 2016 PSLE cop, something like tscore 261 for RI and vs 260 for HCI? But back then, HCL bonus (of up to +3) was included in computation of SAP schools’ COP. Another thing to take note is, NYPS girls enjoy affiliation to NYGH with tscore at tscore 250. For JAE intake, I think the COP was 4pts (Sc) and 5pts (Arts) for both JCs then. How about GEP intake? RI or HCI takes in more GEP students each year?
So if my daughter were to enter NYGH via affiliation with 247+3 and 6yrs later scored rp88-90, I will be super duper happy. I definitely prefer schools that value-add than value-subtract.
From the quality of the intake of students to compare the results they churn out after 6 years (or 2yrs for JAE), we can reach our own conclusion which school value-adds more to her students. I guess that’s what CCK2008 meant and if I m not mistaken, I think CCK2008 has two girls from both schools, so inevitably she tends to compare.
I do not gain from this debate abt which top jcs are better. No kid in either. -
Can we just move on from comparing which is the better school? Both are good and as parents, need to guide our kids to which is better FOR THE CHILD instead of looking at averages.
From CCK2008 posts, I feel there is bias, probably stemming from personal experience of her daughter in RGS/RI (which I sincerely hope the girl has since overcome). Let’s focus to keep discussions in this forum useful for the parents and kids who are participating in DSA 2023 (or later) 🙏🏽 -
lee_yl\" post_id=\"2098267\" time=\"1676792808\" user_id=\"17023:
Yes, this is exactly what I thought, I put in the word 'seems'. Not to offend anyone.
CCK2008 mentioned the school seems to value-add more than RI. Let’s do some breakdown then.
Based on what floppy said that we need to look at two schools’ median score for comparison.
HCI median rp88, with 3 in 10 scoring rp90
RI mean rp84.4, with 1 in 4 scoring rp90
Next, is to look at the COP for the cohort intake for both schools. So we need to trace back to 2016 PSLE cop, something like tscore 261 for RI and vs 260 for HCI? But back then, HCL bonus (of up to +3) was included in computation of SAP schools’ COP. Another thing to take note is, NYPS girls enjoy affiliation to NYGH with tscore at tscore 250. For JAE intake, I think the COP was 4pts (Sc) and 5pts (Arts) for both JCs then. How about GEP intake? RI or HCI takes in more GEP students each year?
So if my daughter were to enter NYGH via affiliation with 247+3 and 6yrs later scored rp88-90, I will be super duper happy. I definitely prefer schools that value-add than value-subtract.
From the quality of the intake of students to compare the results they churn out after 6 years (or 2yrs for JAE), we can reach our own conclusion which school value-adds more to her students. I guess that’s what CCK2008 meant and if I m not mistaken, I think CCK2008 has two girls from both schools, so inevitably she tends to compare. -
Folks, let’s not descend to the level of rivalry of a certain non-IP JC vs another IP JC here, just bcoz of a certain forummer’s uneven experience of her kids in different JC. We are all entitled to our opinions after all.
To share my story - I went to the ISH in RI last Fri during the A-Level result release. My mind was blank when the Powerpoint slides detailing how the sch performed were flashed. At that moment, it didn’t matter to me whether the sch has mean of 80 or 85, how many % of A did each subject achieved, how many students scored 7, 8 or 9 A.
The only thing that mattered was that pict of the A-Level cert that my kid whatsapp me, as I requested him to do the moment he received his cert. The only relevant thing was whether he met his expectation, whether he did well enough to qualify for the course he desires, whether he has a realistic chance for scholarships should he wish to apply. Nothing else really matters.
In time to come, you parents from both JC will also experience what I had experienced. And you’ll also come to the realization that you own kids’ results are of utmost importance, much much more than how the sch did as a whole.
So peace and all the best to both sch for their A-Level result next year. -
AHsDad\" post_id=\"2098277\" time=\"1676795874\" user_id=\"172457:
I agree with you. I hope CCK2008 moves on and stop posting bias comments like these without a single justification. Both schools have achieved a median of 88 for the A-levels class of 2022.
From CCK2008 posts, I feel there is bias, probably stemming from personal experience of her daughter in RGS/RI (which I sincerely hope the girl has since overcome). Let’s focus to keep discussions in this forum useful for the parents and kids who are participating in DSA 2023 (or later) 🙏🏽CCK2008\" post_id=\"2097987\" time=\"1676637986\" user_id=\"26004:
Total bias.Just heard HCI A level result median is 88. Consistently the top jc not only this year, but also past few years. It seems like they are better value added than RI.
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iRabbit\" post_id=\"2098280\" time=\"1676797793\" user_id=\"51587:
:goodpost: Thanks for sharing!
Folks, let's not descend to the level of rivalry of a certain non-IP JC vs another IP JC here, just bcoz of a certain forummer's uneven experience of her kids in different JC. We are all entitled to our opinions after all.
To share my story - I went to the ISH in RI last Fri during the A-Level result release. My mind was blank when the Powerpoint slides detailing how the sch performed were flashed. At that moment, it didn't matter to me whether the sch has mean of 80 or 85, how many % of A did each subject achieved, how many students scored 7, 8 or 9 A.
The only thing that mattered was that pict of the A-Level cert that my kid whatsapp me, as I requested him to do the moment he received his cert. The only relevant thing was whether he met his expectation, whether he did well enough to qualify for the course he desires, whether he has a realistic chance for scholarships should he wish to apply. Nothing else really matters.
In time to come, you parents from both JC will also experience what I had experienced. And you'll also come to the realization that you own kids' results are of utmost importance, much much more than how the sch did as a whole.
So peace and all the best to both sch for their A-Level result next year. -
Just wondering if anyone knows if kid fails chinese at P6 but still excels in the DSA domain, will it affect his standing? Some DSA IP schools (non SAP) require the kid to take HCL so I wonder if these schools will reject application of child based on poor CL. appreciate your feedback. Thanks
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