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    • manorwayM Offline
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      Is it safe to leave a dementia elderly with a newly hired helper? Or is it better to go to a nursing home?

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      • starlight1968sgS Offline
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        Estéema\" post_id=\"2107276\" time=\"1683032536\" user_id=\"66413:

        For home leave, other than airfare, there’s nothing else need to give.

        I’ve always hv concerns with frds who feels ransomed not to give large increments to retain their helpers due to over-dependency resulting in helper salary rocked high then it’ll be normally grow in gradual terms. I guess, by the time our generation grows old, we’ll not be able to afford these helpers just as housing hv outpace young ppl’s affordability these days.
        Esteema
        For my case, the 15 days of home leave is paid ie she still draws a salary when she is in Philippines. I will tell her am giving her paid home leave is out of good will bec MOM doesnt require the employer to do so.

        We need to buy travel insurance for her when she is away, right? This will be another cost.

        For renewal of WP, the govt said the insurance coverage will be increased to 60k. This translates to a hike in premium?

        If I give much increment, I feel the pinch bec prices of everything has increased. If I dont give, she is facing inflation at home too.

        Hence, am asking around before I make a decision.

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        • starlight1968sgS Offline
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          manorway\" post_id=\"2107281\" time=\"1683034780\" user_id=\"9303:

          Is it safe to leave a dementia elderly with a newly hired helper? Or is it better to go to a nursing home?
          I cant answer your qn.

          For a nursing home, how many staff to the seniors.
          At home, it is helper to the senior.

          Of course, now hiring a helper is no longer a luxury but a need. The cost isnt cheap if you count her salary, MOM's monthly levy, the 6mth ME, her room and utilities/food etc.

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          • manorwayM Offline
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            starlight1968sg\" post_id=\"2107290\" time=\"1683035876\" user_id=\"14025:

            I cant answer your qn.

            For a nursing home, how many staff to the seniors.
            At home, it is helper to the senior.

            Of course, now hiring a helper is no longer a luxury but a need. The cost isnt cheap if you count her salary, MOM's monthly levy, the 6mth ME, her room and utilities/food etc.
            Thanks Starlight. I asked because we had bad experience with a few helpers in the past and stopped having one for many years. But wondering if we should have one for the dementia elderly. Problem is I don't have any room for helper and elderly. The only option is for elderly to stay alone at his own place with helper. We are worried after reading all those abuse cases. No experience with nursing home too.

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            • starlight1968sgS Offline
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              manorway\" post_id=\"2107296\" time=\"1683044770\" user_id=\"9303:

              Thanks Starlight. I asked because we had bad experience with a few helpers in the past and stopped having one for many years. But wondering if we should have one for the dementia elderly. Problem is I don't have any room for helper and elderly. The only option is for elderly to stay alone at his own place with helper. We are worried after reading all those abuse cases. No experience with nursing home too.
              My dad lives alone with a helper and a tenant ie each has a room.
              We hv cctv in living room and his bedroom.
              My dad has limited mobility and may hv dementia.
              We will remain in such a situation until buay tahan then Nursing Home.

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              • zac's mumZ Offline
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                Hi manorway, dementia is a long drawn-out process of deterioration. I think the considerations between home care (with helper) vs nursing home would depend on the current severity of the dementia.


                Eg if the elderly is still quite lucid, and put straight into nursing home, as a person they may wonder why am I in a medical facility (like a hospital setting), with restrictions on where I can go, who I can meet. The plus side of nursing home is they have nursing staff and (at least one doctor?) on standby for immediate medical attention if need be.

                You may want to consider dementia day care (explore official link below):
                https://www.aic.sg/care-services/day-care

                Essentially it is a relatively “fun” daycare centre but for elderly to socialize and have dementia-prevention exercises with fellow elderly, guided by nursing staff. Less like a hospital. Some elderly may enjoy this type of setting (like my MIL, a sociable person and extrovert). It does not suit introverts who prefer NOT having to talk to strangers & play “silly games like bingo, do art & craft while chatting” the whole day. Such elderly may be more suited to be cared for by a single helper at home, a more comfortable setting for them.

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                • starlight1968sgS Offline
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                  For info, St Andrew’s Senior Care in Our Tampines Hub, takes in dementia seniors.

                  Pls confirm.

                  My dad attends once a week in this Centre.

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                  • zac's mumZ Offline
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                    Another one for u to consider. They will be opening a 3rd branch in Punggol area soon, can enquire more if that’s near for you:


                    https://www.activeglobalcaregiver.sg/senior-care-centers

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                    • manorwayM Offline
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                      Thank you Starlight and Zac’s mom. Will check out the places.

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                      • EstéemaE Offline
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                        There are many centres that hv programmes designed for elderly day care & they do take in visitors with dementia - St Luke , St Andrew’s, Ling Kwang Home & Zion Home, to name a few.


                        My mum was invited to Ling Kwang Home, one of the best run in SG, but she didn’t like it, possibly arising fr her generation of looking at it as being abandoned. I’ve a few frds who now hire a helper to accompany their elderly to & fro these centres. One even pay for the lunch of both helpers & elderly. Helper does nothing but wait to bring elderly home. I wldnt hv known I had to pay the helper this way. But most wld hv hire helper to send elderly, then do some housework at home & fetch elderly back for dinner after all exercises done.

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