All About Overseas Education
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Based on the kids I know, studying overseas is just the start of a life overseas. Does not seem difficult for them to find a job, more than 1 offer received.
For others, they decided life overseas is not so suitable for them and though they have (good) job offers overseas, prefer to be back.
Think the opportunity to live overseas help kids grow and learn/understand themselves better. -
I don’t disagree with anything people are saying. I am curious how people compare the UK vs Australia vs. Canada. And perhaps exclude Oxford/Cambridge…
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SG_KP1\" post_id=\"2114882\" time=\"1690540446\" user_id=\"188234:
Would love some discussions about Japan, Germany, Spain, France as well for those who’s taking 3rd language.
I don't disagree with anything people are saying. I am curious how people compare the UK vs Australia vs. Canada. And perhaps exclude Oxford/Cambridge... -
From my own experience/considerations for kids:
- Canada - DD was there for internship, am not keen cos of distance and personality fit
- Germany - explored but not follow through cos did not have the course wanted
- France - did summer school "online" during lockdown
- Australia - 娇情 weather too hot
- New Zealand - personality fit
University towns not so suitable for us, hence the exclusion of some universities. Personality fit important, know and heard of kids pre-terminating studies as they cannot adapt. -
newbieks\" post_id=\"2114854\" time=\"1690524365\" user_id=\"178749:
Go UK because no language barrier unlike Japan, Germany or France. Law or Medicine degrees obtained there still relevant here as we have the common law system and many of the UK universities’ medical degrees are recognized here.
Hi,
Putting aside forex rates, how has the trend of the starting pay of graduates in London compare to Singapore over the past 10-20 years?
From information that I can get from discover uni website, it seems that the starting pay for a graduate (decent university even the top 5) is much lower than that of say NuS graduate. For eg graduate pay of chemical engineering from imperial college is 34,000 pound/year while average monthly pay for local university engineering grad is $4600/month in 2022. Even law grad pay from LSE gets 50000 pounds/year while monthly pay in Singapore is close to $6400/month. Not to mention that is cpf in Singapore and tax rate in UK is higher..
so does it mean it is really not attractive to study/work in Uk anymore?? Why do Singaporean students still go UK for undergrad studies then.. it’s getting more baffling to me..
Objectively speaking, working in UK is definitely less attractive nowadays as compared to 20 years ago no thanks to a depreciating pound (the folly of Brexit) and a less than bright economic outlook (the folly of Brexit again). -
lee_yl\" post_id=\"2114892\" time=\"1690550045\" user_id=\"17023:
Well said... Haha.. I enjoyed most, the folly of brexit.... Haha
Go UK because no language barrier unlike Japan, Germany or France. Law or Medicine degrees obtained there still relevant here as we have the common law system and many of the UK universities’ medical degrees are recognized here.
Objectively speaking, working in UK is definitely less attractive nowadays as compared to 20 years ago no thanks to a depreciating pound (the folly of Brexit) and a less than bright economic outlook (the folly of Brexit again). -
Coolkidsrock2\" post_id=\"2114887\" time=\"1690543085\" user_id=\"48901:
Just curious, by university towns, u mean those that have no shopping malls/city amenities nearby? (Cambridge and the likes…?) I agree those are quite difficult to adapt to for city folk.
From my own experience/considerations for kids:
- Canada - DD was there for internship, am not keen cos of distance and personality fit
- Germany - explored but not follow through cos did not have the course wanted
- France - did summer school \"online\" during lockdown
- Australia - 娇情 weather too hot
- New Zealand - personality fit
University towns not so suitable for us, hence the exclusion of some universities. Personality fit important, know and heard of kids pre-terminating studies as they cannot adapt.
On the other hand, i did not like city campuses at all (like SMU, LSE, UTS…) cos theyre just buildings after buildings.
The in-between are suburban campuses that are near enough to amenities and direct public tpt to the city centre for shopping malls. Eg UNSW, UQ in Brisbane, Unimelb.
I used to visit various universities’ campuses when on family holidays growing up (dad was an academic). I do suggest ksps next time go leisure holiday can check out the university campus as well, no harm at all. Taiwan, Japan, all got good unis to consider. -
Suspect DD was bordering into depression when in uni town, it is really difficult.
For us, think it is the pace and energy of city living that sustain us and being away from the stressors is actually stressful.
Another consideration is the economic depth and breathth of the country, eg number of MNCs/brand name employers and internship/work opportunities that are available. Based on the experience of some of the kids who stayed on, am not sure if the same would have been available otherwise. Of course, there are some who chose to give up "good" offers. -
Coolkidsrock2\" post_id=\"2114900\" time=\"1690557904\" user_id=\"48901:
Each person's experience differs, depending on personality, preferences, etc. My daughter chose a university town because she doesn't like big cities! She didn't even include a \"big city\" university on her list of choices initially, but we persuaded her to put 1 London one, just in case she changed her mind! She loved her time in a university town where everything is within reach, and it's less busy and crowded (of course, she didn't know that it would even more quiet during Covid!). The students made their own fun, and many made regular trips to London (not my daughter, though).
Suspect DD was bordering into depression when in uni town, it is really difficult.
For us, think it is the pace and energy of city living that sustain us and being away from the stressors is actually stressful.
Another consideration is the economic depth and breathth of the country, eg number of MNCs/brand name employers and internship/work opportunities that are available. Based on the experience of some of the kids who stayed on, am not sure if the same would have been available otherwise. Of course, there are some who chose to give up \"good\" offers.
Not all students who study overseas intend to work there. My daughter barely considered working in the UK even though Covid had more or less ended by then, and decided to return to Singapore. I expect she would have had some offers if she had applied, but she only applied to a very few jobs, all in Singapore, and hasn't regretted returning to Singapore. We did encourage her to think about working overseas for a while, but I was happy to have her home anyway. I expect she will work overseas at some point in the future. -
Study overseas , work there and if kid meet esp a local there, get married have kids and settle down there… we will see our kid very little then. I think I will be like slmkhoo, will be happy to have kid home.
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