All About Overseas Education
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Study overseas , work there and if kid meet esp a local there, get married have kids and settle down there… we will see our kid very little then. I think I will be like slmkhoo, will be happy to have kid home.
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MrsKiasu\" post_id=\"2114916\" time=\"1690593244\" user_id=\"43981:
If you allow your child to study overseas, you have to accept that this could happen and they settle overseas. Even if they meet another Singaporean, they both might decide to live overseas! If you really can't accept that, you shouldn't let them go overseas. Not that they can't meet someone here and decide to live overseas, but the risk is higher if they study overseas. My grandmother was so afriad of that happening that she offered me all sorts of inducements (bribes!) not to study overseas - but I went anyway. She was so happy when she saw my then-boyfriend (now husband) who checked all the right boxes for her. We also accepted that we couldn't necessarily expect my daughter to decide to come back to Singapore. Even if you make sure they take a scholarship and have to return to serve a bond, after the 6 years, some will go overseas anyway. My husband served his bond and then we spent nearly 20 yrs overseas.
Study overseas , work there and if kid meet esp a local there, get married have kids and settle down there... we will see our kid very little then. I think I will be like slmkhoo, will be happy to have kid home. -
I think we have to be fully prepared that our kids may live overseas for extended periods, or even migrate overseas. It is a reality of a globalized world. More than one quarter of marriages registered in Singapore comprise a Singapore with a non-Singaporean spouse. Many Singaporeans will have to spend a work stint overseas if they work for an MNC or a company with regional dealings. Even among local university graduates, I know of many who are actively pursuing a work stint overseas.
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Imp75\" post_id=\"2114885\" time=\"1690540913\" user_id=\"2358:
Broadly speaking, the level of international diversity in universities in Japan, Germany, Spain, France, will not be at the same level as that of US, UK, Canada which are more 'melting pot'. In those countries, to mix with the locals, there is a significant language barrier, so it may be 'harder'.
Would love some discussions about Japan, Germany, Spain, France as well for those who’s taking 3rd language.
University education is free or nearly free in Germany. -
doodbug\" post_id=\"2114921\" time=\"1690594398\" user_id=\"13281:
Yes understood Germany uni is free even for foreigners, maybe that’s why some took it for third lang. My girl is v sure she’s going to try for Tokyo/Osaka/Kyoto university after A. I know the Japan uni rankings are not high but if she’s really interested, I won’t stop her. Just not sure if there’s a local job market back for her or she’s gonna stay there forever which is not great for work/life balance. Surprisingly Japan public universities (those I mentioned) are cheaper than local uni even for foreigners but foreigners hv to spend foundation year learning Jap even though they are proficient.
Broadly speaking, the level of international diversity in universities in Japan, Germany, Spain, France, will not be at the same level as that of US, UK, Canada which are more 'melting pot'. In those countries, to mix with the locals, there is a significant language barrier, so it may be 'harder'.
University education is free or nearly free in Germany. -
I think it's great to learn and use a foreign language as you can minimally become a translator when worlds collide
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Imp75\" post_id=\"2114923\" time=\"1690594896\" user_id=\"2358:
IMO, these global rankings are filled with all kinds of highly debatable issues. Nevertheless, people have their perception of things, and it's probably (somewhat) important to understand how things are viewed in places you may be looking for employment.
Yes understood Germany uni is free even for foreigners, maybe that’s why some took it for third lang. My girl is v sure she’s going to try for Tokyo/Osaka/Kyoto university after A. I know the Japan uni rankings are not high but if she’s really interested, I won’t stop her. Just not sure if there’s a local job market back for her or she’s gonna stay there forever which is not great for work/life balance. Surprisingly Japan public universities (those I mentioned) are cheaper than local uni even for foreigners but foreigners hv to spend foundation year learning Jap even though they are proficient.
This is the UK's list of universities eligible for a visa (I'm sure others can get visas too; just saying this is one \"ranking\"), two are from Japan.
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/high-potential-individual-visa-global-universities-list/high-potential-individual-visa-global-universities-list-2022
I'd generally encourage kids with an opportunity like this to go for it. It may be hard and there may be some uncertainty on the back end, but they will figure it out. Fortune favours the brave... -
Thanks for the UK visa list, it’s helpful. Tokyo and Kyoto are arguably the top uni in jpn somewhat like Peking and Tsinghua for china so it’s v competitive for the locals. I do hear these uni have a foreign quota so it may be less daunting or competitive for foreigners? There are also private universities in jpn somewhat more ex (still cheaper than Aust) but I am not sure in terms of reputation or employability? I find that some of these universities allow you to study there but in English and separate from the locals which to me is not v ideal. How ever how to compete locally with the local guys to study the local curriculum fully in Jap due to the lack of native language. Quite a dilemma isn’t it?!
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If studying the local curriculum (or predominantly the local curriculum) with local students, my impression is that most foreign kids will survive but it won’t be easy in Year 1 (maybe this is why some of the Japanese unis have a year to increase language capabilities). This is probably the same for some non-native English speakers that go to uni in all of the places mentioned above (or maybe even Singapore).
So realistically a gap will exist for many, and it won’t be easy to compete with native speakers at the highest level. But you will still be a graduate from XYZ and have some advantages vs. the rest of the field locally. And you may have some distinct advantages depending on how you parlay all of your background and experiences to get a job elsewhere.
I guess people migrate to different countries with all types of disadvantages, but they figure out how to make it work… -
Think it is all about choices and make decisions based on what suit us best.
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