NUS High School of Mathematics and Science (Diploma)
-
Has anyone created a whatapps group for Year3 2024 nus high parents?
Thank you -
Hi ! Is there anyone traveling from the East to NUS High. My son will start Y1 from Jan’24. Looking for carpool
-
mg24\" post_id=\"2123576\" time=\"1700910908\" user_id=\"152353:
Yes, its very stress and limited time when travel too far. Many of my friends and relatives always ranted that Secondary School that need up to 1 hour travel time are stressful because if the school starts 7.30am, the student need to wake up at 6am without breakfast. A lot of time school ends at 4.30 to 6pm so they only be back home at 6 to 7.30pm. After dinner and shower, they will start homework at 7.30 to 9pm that mostly ends at 10.30pm to 12am. So they Secondary School students usually sleep at 11.30 to 12am while different curriculum top schools student frequently sleep at 1am due to homeworks and projects.
Does anyone stay extreme east and how does your child manage the travel between school and home daily and manage the school activities, homework etc? Wondering how do kids who stay far from school manage the long travel time? Is it taxing for them?
If the travel time is up to 1.5 hours, then the student need to wake at 5.30am without breakfast. All of these are based on short waiting time of public transport and short walking distance from bus stop or MRT to school and home. If a student has no meal, then they cannot concentrate and will have health problems too. If taking MRT and bus, you cannot sleep or else you will miss the stop. In raning season, the travel time will be longer with clothes and shoes are wet.
If you plan to take the school bus, its even earlier! The bus must reach at least half hour earlier to school and due to pick up points stops, they need more travel time. Usually another extra hour more than public transport and if you miss the bus, you need to take public transport so you must wait 15 to 30 minutes earlier for the school bus. If you take public transport with 1 hour travel time, then school bus need at least 2.3 hours. Getting wet is rarely but school bus will always need longer travel time when especially in rainy days. You can sleep in the bus but its quite stressful when the bus is moving.
If travel by car, there will traffic jams at that hour and especially near schools are too jammed. This exclude problematic rainy seasons.
After reach home, there will be lots of homework because Secondary School and Primary School are so much different. CCA will tire them out too and most feel too sleepy when reach home. Usually most schools CCA is at least twice a week, some CCA up to 5 days a week. When test or exam coming, its more tiring and stress level goes up triple. For Nush, depends on how involve the student and what kind of activities. When approaching to Sports Day or competitions, students will have to stay back and it will be very tiring months. Top school always tends to want their students to top in competitions too and get maximum trophies for the school so grinding the students are normality.
You have to judge if your child is very hyper discipline if one way travel time is up to 1.5 hours. I dont advise one way travel time is more than 1.5 hours because the student usually cannot cope when to and fro travel time is 3 hours daily. Many of the drop outs are due to travel time. All the top schools students tends to doze off during lessons without realizing it. The teachers sometimes will wake them but later ignored when they dozed off again. The teachers know their students are tired but this is the way of life in top schools. Time is essence in secondary school days especially top schools. Every year, many even GEP students from Primary Schools to IP schools ended up drop outs and went to other JC nearer to home. So its not necessary all top students will make it but rather on the student with extreme self discipline and less travel time to avoid over tiring. Another nightmare is after being pushed to another JC, the lives are like being sacked from a company and you start afresh being known as kick-out student. Sadly, every new student will be questioned by their peers.
You must imagine if you travel 1.5 hours to work by public transport and back another 1.5 hours, can you cope? Studying in top schools have triple stress than working. Furthermore the students must attend PE classes, sports, CCA, but working environment dont need real physical strength, unless you are a contruction labourer. -
benx\" post_id=\"2124588\" time=\"1702137609\" user_id=\"122909:
My children woke up 515am, took breakfast and leave home by 615am to make the one hour journey to Sec. School by MRT. It was a 10min walk from MRT station to school without shelter. It rained only some of the time and they did fine. I think their mum mitigated the inconvenience, by having them keep extra pair of socks in their bag, for raining days.
Yes, its very stress and limited time when travel too far. Many of my friends and relatives always ranted that Secondary School that need up to 1 hour travel time are stressful because if the school starts 7.30am, the student need to wake up at 6am without breakfast. A lot of time school ends at 4.30 to 6pm so they only be back home at 6 to 7.30pm. After dinner and shower, they will start homework at 7.30 to 9pm that mostly ends at 10.30pm to 12am. So they Secondary School students usually sleep at 11.30 to 12am while different curriculum top schools student frequently sleep at 1am due to homeworks and projects.
If the travel time is up to 1.5 hours, then the student need to wake at 5.30am without breakfast. All of these are based on short waiting time of public transport and short walking distance from bus stop or MRT to school and home. If a student has no meal, then they cannot concentrate and will have health problems too. If taking MRT and bus, you cannot sleep or else you will miss the stop. In raning season, the travel time will be longer with clothes and shoes are wet.
If you plan to take the school bus, its even earlier! The bus must reach at least half hour earlier to school and due to pick up points stops, they need more travel time. Usually another extra hour more than public transport and if you miss the bus, you need to take public transport so you must wait 15 to 30 minutes earlier for the school bus. If you take public transport with 1 hour travel time, then school bus need at least 2.3 hours. Getting wet is rarely but school bus will always need longer travel time when especially in rainy days. You can sleep in the bus but its quite stressful when the bus is moving.
If travel by car, there will traffic jams at that hour and especially near schools are too jammed. This exclude problematic rainy seasons.
After reach home, there will be lots of homework because Secondary School and Primary School are so much different. CCA will tire them out too and most feel too sleepy when reach home. Usually most schools CCA is at least twice a week, some CCA up to 5 days a week. When test or exam coming, its more tiring and stress level goes up triple. For Nush, depends on how involve the student and what kind of activities. When approaching to Sports Day or competitions, students will have to stay back and it will be very tiring months. Top school always tends to want their students to top in competitions too and get maximum trophies for the school so grinding the students are normality.
You have to judge if your child is very hyper discipline if one way travel time is up to 1.5 hours. I dont advise one way travel time is more than 1.5 hours because the student usually cannot cope when to and fro travel time is 3 hours daily. Many of the drop outs are due to travel time. All the top schools students tends to doze off during lessons without realizing it. The teachers sometimes will wake them but later ignored when they dozed off again. The teachers know their students are tired but this is the way of life in top schools. Time is essence in secondary school days especially top schools. Every year, many even GEP students from Primary Schools to IP schools ended up drop outs and went to other JC nearer to home. So its not necessary all top students will make it but rather on the student with extreme self discipline and less travel time to avoid over tiring. Another nightmare is after being pushed to another JC, the lives are like being sacked from a company and you start afresh being known as kick-out student. Sadly, every new student will be questioned by their peers.
You must imagine if you travel 1.5 hours to work by public transport and back another 1.5 hours, can you cope? Studying in top schools have triple stress than working. Furthermore the students must attend PE classes, sports, CCA, but working environment dont need real physical strength, unless you are a contruction labourer.
My children reached home around 8pm on some days. They usually did their home work on non cca days when they reached home earlier. They turned in by 11pm daily. And my children looked fresher than me always.
My son told me it boiled down to discipline of not spending too much time on social media/mobile games and focus on homework when needed. He told me many of his classmate couldn’t finish homework because they have been switching between their phone and homework- not focus.
CCA will stand down when near exam. Time occupied by cca previously will be freed up for exam studying.
During open house a parent asked the principal whether can the students really cope, citing many of the reason you mentioned above. The principal replied many generations of students have gone through the same situation and all turn up fine. I agree with you , it mostly come down to discipline. -
Here is a poignant post by one of the senior teachers.. this sums up what their thoughts on what it takes to succeed in this school.
\"You teach in a special school for maths and science? Don't the geniuses have a big advantage then?\"
\"No, ma'am. Genius gets you there one way. Talent and discipline get you there another way. Pure discipline and curiosity will bring you there too. The only difference is speed, and as long as we don't test for that, it doesn't matter.
\"Sooner or later all genius and all talent run out, and from that point on the one with the best discipline wins.\"
Conversation with someone trying to sell me something yesterday. Two times is not a pattern but I seem to end up selling back at salesmen.
https://postimg.cc/TKYpjdKG -
bbbay\" post_id=\"2125721\" time=\"1703720202\" user_id=\"175278:
May know on rainy days, how about the shoes got wet? Did your child has extra shoes? 10 mins in medium or heavy rain will wet the shoes.
My children woke up 515am, took breakfast and leave home by 615am to make the one hour journey to Sec. School by MRT. It was a 10min walk from MRT station to school without shelter. It rained only some of the time and they did fine. I think their mum mitigated the inconvenience, by having them keep extra pair of socks in their bag, for raining days.
My children reached home around 8pm on some days. They usually did their home work on non cca days when they reached home earlier. They turned in by 11pm daily. And my children looked fresher than me always.
My son told me it boiled down to discipline of not spending too much time on social media/mobile games and focus on homework when needed. He told me many of his classmate couldn’t finish homework because they have been switching between their phone and homework- not focus.
CCA will stand down when near exam. Time occupied by cca previously will be freed up for exam studying.
During open house a parent asked the principal whether can the students really cope, citing many of the reason you mentioned above. The principal replied many generations of students have gone through the same situation and all turn up fine. I agree with you , it mostly come down to discipline.
I remember that during my school days wet shoes will make our feet smells. Lots of students have smelly HK foot disease. Haha.
A relative of mine always sleep after 12am and wakes at 7am every weekday since his 30s. He told me sleep so much for what but he always looked tired, Haha. For me, I cant take that because I need more sleep. If I sleep less, my mood is bad, my performance deteriorates so much and my concentration also very low. -
lucid\" post_id=\"2125780\" time=\"1703775947\" user_id=\"14312:
Well said. But no teachers will say there are any problems in the school because he will get into trouble. Every year there will be 10 to 15% drop out from all top schools.
\"You teach in a special school for maths and science? Don't the geniuses have a big advantage then?\"
\"No, ma'am. Genius gets you there one way. Talent and discipline get you there another way. Pure discipline and curiosity will bring you there too. The only difference is speed, and as long as we don't test for that, it doesn't matter.
\"Sooner or later all genius and all talent run out, and from that point on the one with the best discipline wins.\"
Conversation with someone trying to sell me something yesterday. Two times is not a pattern but I seem to end up selling back at salesmen.[/i]
https://postimg.cc/TKYpjdKG -
benx\" post_id=\"2125782\" time=\"1703785846\" user_id=\"122909:
My experiences is not the wet shoe that cause discomfort. It’s the socks that soak up the rain water and stay wet for long hours that does. Change out of the wet socks into dry ones will keep you dry. The wet shoes , even it soak up a little, will dry up fast enough that the dry socks are enough to keep feet dry. Maybe not 100 % dry but better than doing nothing. Anyway, this is a mitigating solution for raining days, which raining during reporting to school hour itself is relatively rare, and its a pity if it become a reason that stop from choosing a school that really suit the child. That is my personal view.
May know on rainy days, how about the shoes got wet? Did your child has extra shoes? 10 mins in medium or heavy rain will wet the shoes.
I remember that during my school days wet shoes will make our feet smells. Lots of students have smelly HK foot disease. Haha.
A relative of mine always sleep after 12am and wakes at 7am every weekday since his 30s. He told me sleep so much for what but he always looked tired, Haha. For me, I cant take that because I need more sleep. If I sleep less, my mood is bad, my performance deteriorates so much and my concentration also very low.
Nothing is perfect, even top schools. We should all prepared for it. That is the reason whether the child fit school should be the main concern. I have also learn, not to project my own concerns to my children. They grow up in different era from our time. I am often surprise how they are better at things than me when I was their age. Sometimes they can be more resilient than us. But not always. I guess we have to keep understanding our children to make the best judgements whether school and them fit each other.
my humble opinion : When the child is good at something acknowledge it with humility. When the child is not good at something acknowledge it with humility too. To me the worst thing is when the child is good at something we deny it. And when the child is bad at something we deny it. -
benx\" post_id=\"2125784\" time=\"1703786416\" user_id=\"122909:
I agree with you. Every cohort has drop out and also, suicide. I think the % and numbers are even higher in Bishan and/or Bukit Timah. I stand to be corrected as we are aware what goes on given parents talk.
Well said. But no teachers will say there are any problems in the school because he will get into trouble. Every year there will be 10 to 15% drop out from all top schools.
The thing about this school is the culture is more accepting that the kids can be unique and quirky as long as they are not disruptive. Also, they aim to see through their promise for the kids to graduate so often, it is the school who prefers to retain the kids (around 4-5 per year) for better grasp of fundamentals but the child or parents who want to leave. This is why it is best not to hothouse the child into this school. Some are also very very intelligent but learned wrong study techniques like rote memorisation and over-confident in not revising or keep up as they were used to acing standard curriculum previously.
Also, the school can only do so much … some parents actually outsourced the social and motivational guidance to the school and choose not to be involved. Not sure why but it could be they are working overseas or undergoing divorce etc It is very sad when the kid is set up up fail cause you cannot expect the school to push and drag the unmotivated kid up when the parents don’t really care or don’t know how to care either.
I will give this school credit it reaches out to parents on parenting workshops and series of talks on how to motivate , communicate or manage stress with your child. -
lucid\" post_id=\"2125892\" time=\"1703842998\" user_id=\"14312:
Teachers also human being, the same as us all. Although they will try to help, but they also have their own obligation and time limit while there are so many students to help. So if the student cant solve the problems in time, they are on their own. After all, its the greed of parents who die die must send their children there and brainwash their children. Although lots parents and students said they like the culture there, its all lies because they even haven't study there yet so how can they really know the school culture? Even some parents refused to face the facts of their own problems and greed. We should realize too that top school main target is to achieve best results from certain top students.
I agree with you. Every cohort has drop out and also, suicide. I think the % and numbers are even higher in Bishan and/or Bukit Timah. I stand to be corrected as we are aware what goes on given parents talk.
The thing about this school is the culture is more accepting that the kids can be unique and quirky as long as they are not disruptive. Also, they aim to see through their promise for the kids to graduate so often, it is the school who prefers to retain the kids (around 4-5 per year) for better grasp of fundamentals but the child or parents who want to leave. This is why it is best not to hothouse the child into this school. Some are also very very intelligent but learned wrong study techniques like rote memorisation and over-confident in not revising or keep up as they were used to acing standard curriculum previously.
Also, the school can only do so much … some parents actually outsourced the social and motivational guidance to the school and choose not to be involved. Not sure why but it could be they are working overseas or undergoing divorce etc It is very sad when the kid is set up up fail cause you cannot expect the school to push and drag the unmotivated kid up when the parents don’t really care or don’t know how to care either.
I will give this school credit it reaches out to parents on parenting workshops and series of talks on how to motivate , communicate or manage stress with your child.
Hello! It looks like you're interested in this conversation, but you don't have an account yet.
Getting fed up of having to scroll through the same posts each visit? When you register for an account, you'll always come back to exactly where you were before, and choose to be notified of new replies (either via email, or push notification). You'll also be able to save bookmarks and upvote posts to show your appreciation to other community members.
With your input, this post could be even better 💗
Register Login
Online Users
Statistics
Popular Topics