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Can I check what other pathways other than jC & Poly, with ultimate aim to getting a degree? Where else can we get a Diploma before we proceed to go for a degree. Last time we have friends taking LCCI etc but now almost never heard of it.
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00skyblue00\" post_id=\"2124495\" time=\"1701996707\" user_id=\"143605:
I'm from an even earlier era (PSLE in 1976!) when no-one talked about PSLE scores as they weren't revealed. No-one talked about role or purpose in life either; when we wrote compos about \"what I want to be when I grow up\", what most people wrote was doctor/lawyer/teacher etc. We were limited to what we knew and saw, and no-one actually asked what we wanted to do, or what we were interested in. My parents simply looked at my results and decided that I should aim to be a doctor - I was never consulted! I didn't really think about what they said, and just continued to do the best I could in studies, and only thought about the next step in school.
I remember, my kid pri sch P asked the sch P6s classes the same question, quite timely before mid year. What are their individual goal in life? Most kids gave the same reply. To get good PSLE results to get into so and so schools. Near to none really knows what do they like to do. ... When kids have found passion, they shine brightly so everyone will know. I believe.
I dont remember having a goal at that age too when I was young. Or something that I really like to do for that matter. But I also dont recall someone ever really asked and I ever get to talk abt such topic opnely among everyone in class too. I think the exercise will leave some impression to the children. It sure did to mine and me.
The P then talk to them about how she studied law but turned to education and became a school P. My kid related everything she learnt in that session to me.
By the time I was taking O levels, it had become clear to me that I was not cut out for sciences, despite getting good grades in them. When I decided that I wanted to switch to Arts stream in JC, I met with huge opposition from parents and well-meaning relatives and friends - you will not be able to find a job, you can \"only\" teach, you will lose out to all your doctor friends... I (and a new scholarship scheme) managed to persuade my parents that I wasn't committing academic suicide, and they then said \"you will be a lawyer\". By then, I had decided that I liked books and words, and thought that being a librarian would be wonderful, but I was an obedient daughter and decided that being a lawyer didn't seem too bad, and maybe I could eventually work in a Law library. But realising how unsuited my personality was for being a lawyer, I finally rebelled during my university years - I got my degree, but refused to go into legal practice. It helped that I was already going to be married by then, and my husband-to-be said \"do what you want\" even though that meant less money for us.
Given my own experience, I have never forced my kids to go into any particular course or career - but I have always encouraged them (and yes, imposed discipline and rules and schedules in early years) to do their best at their studies to increase their options. Discipline within reason of course - with reasonable time for their own interests, leisure and sleep. In my experience, only very few kids \"know\" what they want to be or become when they are young - I believe that parents should simply encourage them to do their best at studies and develop their interests, then let them follow their interests and inclinations when selecting between available options. I believe that imposing discipline and rules and schedules, and teaching them how to plan and have self-discipline, helps children fit more (whether studies or hobbies) into the time they have available, which benefits them in the long run. It doesn't mean they will climb to the top of their respective trees, but as long as they can earn enough and can live within their income, I feel my job as a parent has been successful. Neither of them has complained so far anyway! -
MrsKiasu\" post_id=\"2124502\" time=\"1702002286\" user_id=\"43981:
You go listen to the talks by HCI (International), SJI (Int), ACS (Int) lah. All my friends who sent their kids there, parents and kids happy plus can get into local Uni. However, if the IB results less than ideal (lower than IB 35yo), choice of courses will be limited.
Can I check what other pathways other than jC & Poly, with ultimate aim to getting a degree? Where else can we get a Diploma before we proceed to go for a degree. Last time we have friends taking LCCI etc but now almost never heard of it. -
Liew Nga Wing\" post_id=\"2124501\" time=\"1702001444\" user_id=\"195250:[quote=\"Liew Nga Wing\" post_id=2124501 time=1702001444 user_id=195250]
To me, 1-4 are reasonable depending on the age of the child. As a rule of thumb, I would retain those rules up to around Sec 2 (maybe bedtime can be later), and then relax them gradually as the child shows responsibility. And remove the rules by the time the child is in JC?
1. Must reach home before 07pm for dinner
2. Must go to bed before 1000pm
3. Parents can check and read kids handphone messages
4. Limited phone or screen time per day
5. Must be the Top X in class
6. Must go for tuition class
7. Must go University...Polytechnic also cannot[/quote]
5 - not a rule, just an aspiration, and parents can say whatever they like, but if the child can't, he can't!
6-7 - also not rules - and yes, I agree that parents do need to listen to the child's opinions about whether tuition helps, and what his aspirations are. -
slmkhoo\" post_id=\"2124503\" time=\"1702002361\" user_id=\"28674:
I just guess ..your parents must be quite 'heartbroken'. Esp that their gen is an educated one and may very naturally expecting you to go the academic way. You are quite a rebellious kid arh.
I'm from an even earlier era (PSLE in 1976!) when no-one talked about PSLE scores as they weren't revealed. No-one talked about role or purpose in life either; when we wrote compos about \"what I want to be when I grow up\", what most people wrote was doctor/lawyer/teacher etc. We were limited to what we knew and saw, and no-one actually asked what we wanted to do, or what we were interested in. My parents simply looked at my results and decided that I should aim to be a doctor - I was never consulted! I didn't really think about what they said, and just continued to do the best I could in studies, and only thought about the next step in school.
By the time I was taking O levels, it had become clear to me that I was not cut out for sciences, despite getting good grades in them. When I decided that I wanted to switch to Arts stream in JC, I met with huge opposition from parents and well-meaning relatives and friends - you will not be able to find a job, you can \"only\" teach, you will lose out to all your doctor friends... I (and a new scholarship scheme) managed to persuade my parents that I wasn't committing academic suicide, and they then said \"you will be a lawyer\". By then, I had decided that I liked books and words, and thought that being a librarian would be wonderful, but I was an obedient daughter and decided that being a lawyer didn't seem too bad, and maybe I could eventually work in a Law library. But realising how unsuited my personality was for being a lawyer, I finally rebelled during my university years - I got my degree, but refused to go into legal practice. It helped that I was already going to be married by then, and my husband-to-be said \"do what you want\" even though that meant less money for us.
Given my own experience, I have never forced my kids to go into any particular course or career - but I have always encouraged them (and yes, imposed discipline and rules and schedules in early years) to do their best at their studies to increase their options. Discipline within reason of course - with reasonable time for their own interests, leisure and sleep. In my experience, only very few kids \"know\" what they want to be or become when they are young - I believe that parents should simply encourage them to do their best at studies and develop their interests, then let them follow their interests and inclinations when selecting between available options. I believe that imposing discipline and rules and schedules, and teaching them how to plan and have self-discipline, helps children fit more (whether studies or hobbies) into the time they have available, which benefits them in the long run. It doesn't mean they will climb to the top of their respective trees, but as long as they can earn enough and can live within their income, I feel my job as a parent has been successful. Neither of them has complained so far anyway! -
lee_yl\" post_id=\"2124505\" time=\"1702002712\" user_id=\"17023:
Ah ok ok..totally forgotten abt that. The wild thoughts were everywhere..dh says maybe instead of resit with so much time available with worries of kid getting to half 'tangping' got to try get her keep moving.
You go listen to the talks by HCI (International), SJI (Int), ACS (Int) lah. All my friends who sent their kids there, parents and kids happy plus can get into local Uni. However, if the IB results less than ideal (lower than IB 35yo), choice of courses will be limited. -
MrsKiasu\" post_id=\"2124502\" time=\"1702002286\" user_id=\"43981:
There's also MI's 3-yr A level programme.
Can I check what other pathways other than jC & Poly, with ultimate aim to getting a degree? Where else can we get a Diploma before we proceed to go for a degree. Last time we have friends taking LCCI etc but now almost never heard of it.
To apply to local universities, I don't know if a Singaporean who has studied in Singapore can offer non-standard qualifications (i.e. not A levels, IB or Poly grades) for admissions. Even if they can, they may be competing against international students for limited places.
If you are considering overseas universities:
MDIS has several diploma courses that I believe can lead to university courses, but probably not local universities. Can also look at SIM Global.
I know of parents who have sent kids to take Foundation year (UK or Australia) after O levels to prepare them to get into overseas universities.
For US universities, students can take SAT or ACT exams and apply to US universities with those scores. There are probably centres that help prepare students for those tests.
I don't know details of all these, but you should be able to find info online. I think it is possible to do some of these locally. -
MrsKiasu\" post_id=\"2124507\" time=\"1702002879\" user_id=\"43981:
My father has never really got over it; my mother has. She has told me how happy she is that I was willing to even give up working for a while to look after my family. Compared with my much more well-to-do brother and cousins (many lawyers and doctors among them), my kids are generally happier, less rebellious and less problematic. Not necessarily less successful either, though that is not that important to us.
I just guess ..your parents must be quite 'heartbroken'. Esp that their gen is an educated one and may very naturally expecting you to go the academic way. You are quite a rebellious kid arh.
I wouldn't say I didn't go the academic way - I have a BA, an MA and another Diploma, and a few other odd courses here and there! And I did fairly well in all of them. It's just that I'm not in a high-earning profession. -
MrsKiasu\" post_id=\"2124502\" time=\"1702002286\" user_id=\"43981:
Am aware of IP students switching to IB program at international schools - got into local and foreign universities, NAFA/some art schools for kids interested in anime/animation as well as foundation studies overseas.
Can I check what other pathways other than jC & Poly, with ultimate aim to getting a degree? Where else can we get a Diploma before we proceed to go for a degree. Last time we have friends taking LCCI etc but now almost never heard of it.
Not all switch due to academic reasons - networking opportunities and exposure reasons were often mentioned as a reason.
Some form of self-study online in interest courses in the open uni platform. Read about apprenticeship programs at some MNCs but am not so familiar, not really research this option. DS mentioned it previously. -
For parents w girls studying overseas, how do you feel comfortable allowing her to stay overseas for 5y? Does anyone follow and stay for a couple months? Is this even possible if child is staying in uni dorm? Are you worried child may not eventually return post graduation. Is it correct to say that application has to start around sep even before A levels to avoid losing a year? Just want to understand the considerations of an overseas education.
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