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I am quite curious…for studying for diploma in Polytechnic…must it have to be related to a degree course later. Coz I somehow thought/recalled something like any diploma will be quite alright…maybe if related then can get some exemption on some papers…now I m not sure tho.
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MrsKiasu\" post_id=\"2125035\" time=\"1702956816\" user_id=\"43981:
It worked for my daughter. She's not very easily influenced, so I wasn't too concerned about her being \"led astray\" - it is true that the student body there are weaker students, and sometimes that could be because of lack of motivation, poor habits etc. On the other hand, some of the students who were my daughter's friends were very hardworking! They were there because they just weren't very strong students, or had health issues which had slowed them down, or were recent immigrants whose English wasn't that good.
Slmkhoo, for MI, how do you personally find the student composition, environment for studying and growth there?
The first year can have quite a bit of upheaval in student population, which is not very good socially. Some students left because they got into a poly course, or got a job. Others started late because they didn't get into poly, and then joined MI. A number left at the end of the first year either because they gave up, went overseas, got into poly, got a job, etc. It was more stable in the 2nd and 3rd years.
Environment for studying depends in part on the friends. The teachers were supportive - they knew that they weren't teaching the top students, so they took trouble to explain more, supervise and direct more closely, and were quite strict (compared to RI, anyway - can't speak for other JCs). And spreading the material out over 3 years was good - better than doing it in 2 yrs then repeating a year (which some weaker students do in JC). The school provided quite a bit of non-academic encouragement - quite a strong emphasis on entrepreneurship, community service etc. I guess they knew this might be more relevant to their students. In CCA, they focused more on teamwork and participation than being the top or winning stuff - I liked that, and it suited my daughter. She got opportunities to do what she could even though not that good, which she wouldn't have been able to do in a JC, I think.
It may not work well for everyone, but one of her teachers was also previously an MI student, and was really good and supportive. And in one of my previous jobs, a colleague was also formerly a student at MI, went to local university, and was very good in her work. -
MrsKiasu\" post_id=\"2125036\" time=\"1702957054\" user_id=\"43981:
If it's directly related, I think the student might be able to reduce the university course by a year, or be excused some modules. If it's unrelated, the student still has to have met the prerequisites (could be in Maths or Chem or whatever); and will also have take the full 4 years of the university course.
I am quite curious..for studying for diploma in Polytechnic..must it have to be related to a degree course later. Coz I somehow thought/recalled something like any diploma will be quite alright..maybe if related then can get some exemption on some papers...now I m not sure tho. -
MrsKiasu\" post_id=\"2125036\" time=\"1702957054\" user_id=\"43981:
For aussie unis, they give 2 years’ exemption if related diploma, and 1 year exemption if un-related diploma. For local U, i heard it is not so generous but probably still have some exemption.
I am quite curious..for studying for diploma in Polytechnic..must it have to be related to a degree course later. Coz I somehow thought/recalled something like any diploma will be quite alright..maybe if related then can get some exemption on some papers...now I m not sure tho.
It is only a few years’ difference, which wont matter in the long run especially for girls who dont have to sacrifice 2 years for NS. -
zac's mum\" post_id=\"2125042\" time=\"1702958532\" user_id=\"53606:[quote=\"zac's mum\" post_id=2125042 time=1702958532 user_id=53606]
Their courses are usually for how many years for students to get 2 years exemption? Are they usually 4yrs ?
For aussie unis, they give 2 years’ exemption if related diploma, and 1 year exemption if un-related diploma. For local U, i heard it is not so generous but probably still have some exemption.
It is only a few years’ difference, which wont matter in the long run especially for girls who dont have to sacrifice 2 years for NS.[/quote] -
slmkhoo\" post_id=\"2125040\" time=\"1702958070\" user_id=\"28674:
Yesterday I was thinking if can get in, 3yrs A is good too ..distance is abit off. But it is also one of the considerations.
It worked for my daughter. She's not very easily influenced, so I wasn't too concerned about her being \"led astray\" - it is true that the student body there are weaker students, and sometimes that could be because of lack of motivation, poor habits etc. On the other hand, some of the students who were my daughter's friends were very hardworking! They were there because they just weren't very strong students, or had health issues which had slowed them down, or were recent immigrants whose English wasn't that good.
The first year can have quite a bit of upheaval in student population, which is not very good socially. Some students left because they got into a poly course, or got a job. Others started late because they didn't get into poly, and then joined MI. A number left at the end of the first year either because they gave up, went overseas, got into poly, got a job, etc. It was more stable in the 2nd and 3rd years.
Environment for studying depends in part on the friends. The teachers were supportive - they knew that they weren't teaching the top students, so they took trouble to explain more, supervise and direct more closely, and were quite strict (compared to RI, anyway - can't speak for other JCs). And spreading the material out over 3 years was good - better than doing it in 2 yrs then repeating a year (which some weaker students do in JC). The school provided quite a bit of non-academic encouragement - quite a strong emphasis on entrepreneurship, community service etc. I guess they knew this might be more relevant to their students. In CCA, they focused more on teamwork and participation than being the top or winning stuff - I liked that, and it suited my daughter. She got opportunities to do what she could even though not that good, which she wouldn't have been able to do in a JC, I think.
It may not work well for everyone, but one of her teachers was also previously an MI student, and was really good and supportive. And in one of my previous jobs, a colleague was also formerly a student at MI, went to local university, and was very good in her work. -
MrsKiasu\" post_id=\"2125043\" time=\"1702958887\" user_id=\"43981:
DH had dip in biochem from sp; Uni of Queensland gave him 2yr exemption for their 3yr Bsc biochem (no honours year). So he went straight into their final year. He had a flatmate who had dip in hospitality from tp; same uni UQ gave him 1yr exemption for their 3yr BA English course (also no honours year). So he spent 2 years there.
Their courses are usually for how many years for students to get 2 years exemption? Are they usually 4yrs ?
Fast fwd many years, the bachelor’s degree opened the door to their first job, but both guys have moved on, into completely different industries (min requirement was simply a bachelor’s in any field) and doing well financially, living happily ever after. -
MrsKiasu\" post_id=\"2125043\" time=\"1702958887\" user_id=\"43981:
I think that getting exemptions may not always be a good thing - some students need time to think and digest material, and some don't work so fast, or perform well under pressure. Unless there is a pressing reason for starting to earn, or the child will find the slower pace a drag, I would say that taking more time should be regarded as a privilege, not something to be avoided. Taking longer to complete a course may allow your daughter to get better results in the end.
Their courses are usually for how many years for students to get 2 years exemption? Are they usually 4yrs ?
The next generation will probably have to work till 70+ if life expectancy keeps increasing, so I don't see that there is a hurry to start work. -
slmkhoo\" post_id=\"2125046\" time=\"1702960501\" user_id=\"28674:
I agree that our kids’ generation are under less pressure to start working early. Few of us need our kids to support us immediately upon graduation because we are still capable of supporting ourselves.
I think that getting exemptions may not always be a good thing - some students need time to think and digest material, and some don't work so fast, or perform well under pressure. Unless there is a pressing reason for starting to earn, or the child will find the slower pace a drag, I would say that taking more time should be regarded as a privilege, not something to be avoided. Taking longer to complete a course may allow your daughter to get better results in the end.
The next generation will probably have to work till 70+ if life expectancy keeps increasing, so I don't see that there is a hurry to start work.
For those 2 guys I mentioned who got the exemptions, they were indeed under huge pressure to start supporting their families asap. In fact they had started working using their dips. Then they realized how stagnant the wages for dip holders would be, wised up on their own & sought to get the max ROI for their future. They took loans from relatives for the 1-2 yrs overseas fees, and studied super hard for that duration, came back exactly as planned and enjoyed the pay jump while returning their debts for the next season. A student needs to be strongly motivated if want to take this route.
For kids who still dunno what they want, drag it out longer till they mature and wake up is probably better. -
zac's mum\" post_id=\"2125047\" time=\"1702961732\" user_id=\"53606:[quote=\"zac's mum\" post_id=2125047 time=1702961732 user_id=53606]
even choose diploma also need to know which course to go into. thus there are still many students going to JC first, as they are still not sure what they wish to pursue in degree.
I agree that our kids’ generation are under less pressure to start working early. Few of us need our kids to support us immediately upon graduation because we are still capable of supporting ourselves.
For those 2 guys I mentioned who got the exemptions, they were indeed under huge pressure to start supporting their families asap. In fact they had started working using their dips. Then they realized how stagnant the wages for dip holders would be, wised up on their own & sought to get the max ROI for their future. They took loans from relatives for the 1-2 yrs overseas fees, and studied super hard for that duration, came back exactly as planned and enjoyed the pay jump while returning their debts for the next season. A student needs to be strongly motivated if want to take this route.
For kids who still dunno what they want, drag it out longer till they mature and wake up is probably better.[/quote]
agree that the new generation has more time to consider whats next for tertiary , anyway - seem like they need to work a life time ... :roll: but to work till which age is also personal & lifestyle choice
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