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[00skyblue00]

As a citizen, as much as i hope we will have more local raised doctors, i also wish the existing high standard will not be lowered. Still hope the system will choose the best of best students, but more.

If eg. Igp for Med is AAAA now, hopefully it will stay AAA even when intake increase.

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00skyblue00\" post_id=\"2127559\" time=\"1705794677\" user_id=\"143605:

Was discussion this earlier comment from you:

“Exactly, if psle exam was easier but cop remain, it can mean supply is more than demand.”

I don’t think demand will drop. There will always be many parents/students aspire to top IP schools. Anyway all these are our guesses

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According to your earlier posts you are one of the few to discourage being fixated on 1st choice isnt it? Why suddenly get stress now? There are still 2nd, third and fouth choices, isnt it?

Yes, can settle for 2nd choice, that is my view too. What i posted earlier, I went into details of how attractive 2nd/3rd/4th choices could be created to cater for good results students but just not able to make it to the top, how to maintain standards of graduates, and why getting B does not mean students are not performing well; it could mean other students (A grade, able to answer challenging questions) have raise the standard even higher.

My previous few postings were stand alone discussion, not linked to other separate discussion on this thread

[lee_yl]

00skyblue00\" post_id=\"2127560\" time=\"1705795239\" user_id=\"143605:

As a citizen, as much as i hope we will have more local raised doctors, i also wish the existing high standard will not be lowered. Still hope the system will choose the best of best students, but more.
If eg. Igp for Med is AAAA now, hopefully it will stay AAA even when intake increase.

NUS med 2022/2023 intake 294
NUS med 2023/2024 intake 280

NTU med 2022/2023 intake 167
NTU med 2023/2024 intake 150

There’s a slight reduction in local med intake, so we are unlikely to have more locally raised doctors. Actually I also think we should have more due aging population!

My friends who sent their kids to study med overseas, really reduced their savings significantly by S$600K thereabout.

[lee_yl]

While I hope we can have more locally raised doctors, I get very perturbed by the fact that there are so many young doctors from NUS in Aesthetics Clinics. I feel that taxpayers’ money had gone to waste. Pico laser or other simple procedures can be done by a beautician.


Singapore has limited human resources and we need proper doctors at the public hospitals/A&E after investing so much in their education. While the money is good, it’s not optimal utilization of resources.

[00skyblue00]

I agree. We need more doctors, why import if we can raised locals. The problem is many bright local kids do not wish to study Med.


So far, my experiences with those local doctors i encountered at polyclinics are good, in general. They don’t just show you the test results table and said test is ok and that’s it. There may be one or two outliners.
But those (i guess) who are not locals, eg speak with accent (hk,… ) etc, can tell have own set of ways of doing things. Yes, cannot blame, since they are given a small window of time for each patient.

I thought these young doctors from local med, have min. Public service Hours to fulfill at hospitals? It’s part of conditions to take up local med with full scholarship, no? I am not so familiar.

[lee_yl]

00skyblue00\" post_id=\"2127574\" time=\"1705805032\" user_id=\"143605:

I agree. We need more doctors, why import if we can raised locals. The problem is many bright local kids do not wish to study Med.

So far, my experiences with those local doctors i encountered at polyclinics are good, in general. They don't just show you the test results table and said test is ok and that's it. There may be one or two outliners.
But those (i guess) who are not locals, eg speak with accent (hk,.... ) etc, can tell have own set of ways of doing things. Yes, cannot blame, since they are given a small window of time for each patient.

I thought these young doctors from local med, have min. Public service Hours to fulfill at hospitals? It's part of conditions to take up local med with full scholarship, no? I am not so familiar.

Because Import doctors fast and cheap!!

We should import more because we are a fast aging society and the situation will only get worse and not better!!

Import doctors and nurses can help bring down medical costs for our aging population so just import. Let’s face it, no thanks to LKY legacy we will never have enough locally raised doctors to meet the increasing demands for medical care. If HK docs not suitable then get from other sources like Malaysia.

If one served 6yrs bond w MOH, at the end of the bond, only 27yo-29yo, still very young to me. Then these young doctors jump ship to join the Aesthetic industry. I came across one who served bond halfway at Polyclinic, broke bond to join private sector. The private sector paid for the bond compensation.

[lee_yl]

Regarding the latest A level revamp, I feel that there is no need to over-analyze why AAA/A change to AAA. It doesn’t matter. We just need to play by the new rules.


Under the new grading system, one can fail his/her H1, scores AAA (and A in GP + a pass in PW), that student will still be awarded with FULL RP70 points. It’s quite certain that the number students getting full RP70 will only increase. Of cos this also means that the IGP for more Uni courses will shift towards AAA.

DH recalled that 30+ years ago, Hwa Chong JC had around 70% of its students scoring 3A or better. Today top tier JCs has around 45% of the cohort scoring AAA/A. Therefore, the percentage for AAA will definitely go up.

Then what differentiate these AAA students when it comes to Uni applications? I am not very sure because MOE did not disclose. I would guess one should build a strong portfolio.

I am lucky that my children are not fixated about any particular Uni course (say med or law). If not, there is no way to get away from competitive stress for coveted courses.

[Imp75]

With a lot of emphasis on STEM in sec Sch in recent years, it may come as no surprise that NUS Sch of Computing may become the hottest sought after course with AAA/A as well. With skill sets from Sch of Computing, one’s career choices could be very varied and salary also at a premium.

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For those keen to know more on what could be the considerations behind increasing medical students intake:


https://www.reddit.com/r/askSingapore/comments/xuibgw/why_doesnt_the_government_just_accept_more/

[bbbay]

At my kid’s JC organised “ Ask me almost anything - My career” talk, one of the speaker is a doctor at KK hospital. She said if you want to be rich , don’t be a doctor. Choose a doctor career only if you see it as a calling. She said it is not as glamourous many as other think.