Anglo-Chinese School (Independent)
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usaik881\" post_id=\"2127867\" time=\"1706062914\" user_id=\"199461:
I totally agree with you about these points; our (formerly streamed) Normal is the world average. But one thing I am curious about is your use of the word 'mockers'... who are these mockers? What kind of mockery are they engaging in? What are they mocking? I really want to know.
You have said it very well. Thank You.
The primary reason for the IB advantage = the moderating hand of MOE is off.
MOE by its national development policies penalizes our academically average youths unnecessarily (artificially restricting many deserving from a local U education). Mockers might want to argue. They forget that the world average is not the Singaporean average. The Singaporean average, when pitted against the world average, is top class. The Singaporean average is only average under the MOE moderating hand. The IB advantages, as things stand, are real. -
lee_yl\" post_id=\"2127853\" time=\"1706059727\" user_id=\"17023:
I'm fully aware of this; it is my research area after all. This is why I used the phrase you highlighted: it is technically possible based on subject choice. The range is huge, at RJC it's only about 25% getting RP90, it seems. Roughly one in four. RP90 is no mean feat, of course; and based on the subject distribution (best proxy, see how many people do H2 chemistry), a lot of potential candidates for something like medicine. I'm not surprised at all.
Maybe you are not aware, even if I were to take double Sc at a lower tier JCs or MI, very likely I only have a 30% chance of making it to a local Uni. If you do a search, you will be surprised that only few students from lower tier JCs manage to score RP90.
(Well, actually it might be argued that people with a 30% chance of making it to a local university end up in a lower tier JC doing double science.) -
Ya, why must call names?
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For entry to SG tertiary, the advantage of taking SG A or O levels is precisely the SG standard, brand, or whatever we wish to call. This is the price we "pay" to be living, studying and working in SG. Our edu is heavily subsidised from pri, sec, JC, poly till uni. We live in a real world, with constraints, no boundless resources. Either we spent on only the top 10% or spread out thinly on 40% or only help the bottom 40%.
We can transfer the subsidies from local uni to sec/jc to provide IB edu for the mass and then students are on their own thereafter. Will this be better? Have it easier first then go on own ways?
Ib edu is a luxury, not necessity at the moment. Teacher students ratio is smaller. Fees are higher. Imo, i am no edu expert or moe, just a parent. -
Can students w IB 38 points get into sought after courses at SG universities? So the unhappiness is because local uni accepted ib students deemed with advantage over A level students? Verified?
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autolycus\" post_id=\"2127434\" time=\"1705639134\" user_id=\"16143:
Just came across the ACSI FAQ page that there are usually about 100 vacancies for the JAE intake
The total inflow from ACS(I) Y1-4 is a bit difficult to estimate since students change path and some come in later, but it is about 300+ with some variance, given a IB cohort of 450 students or so. Some of the remaining places are earmarked for MGS IP students. This leaves maybe 60(?) students from all over the place. I no longer have access to official data at a micro level.
The original plan was to reserve about 2/3 of the places for ACS(I) IP — so when we started at ≈360 (graduated 356 in the first year) about 240 were from ACS(I) IP or O-levels. In the first couple of years we accepted a fair number from other IP schools, but people weren't happy with that and the option was suppressed.
Generally, popular programmes tend to expand wildly. Original school size for ACS(I) was 1200 (S1-4), original IB cohort was supposed to be 120. Less than a year before implementation we were told to jack it up to 360. You can imagine the chaos. I believe further changes will come down the road.
https://sites.acsindep.edu.sg/FAQ/index.php -
autolycus\" post_id=\"2127847\" time=\"1706058034\" user_id=\"16143:
Actually I too have the same doubts, what's the success rate of 36-38 pointers from the international applicants' pool of getting into UK medical schools. However, by just looking at the entry requirement for IB (36-38) vs. Sg/International A level (AAA), it does make a difference in term of advantage.
Yeah, but we don't know the subject distribution for those 38 points, including 0-3 bonus points. We don't know if they qualify for medical school, considering many UK medical schools like triple-science candidates and the IB doesn't normally allow those. Apples, durians. We do however know that the vast majority of JC students are double-science and can technically qualify for a local medical school (chemistry plus one other science). The JC distribution is much larger, you will see a kind of regression to the mean; the MOE IB schools (SJI, ACS(I)) and SOTA are pretty selective.
Maybe it just means that HCIS (per your example) has a lot of breadth in its educational offerings, or that these kids are scoring amazingly well at their SL subjects (sort of equivalent to acing your H1s but stumbling a bit in your H2s). -
Qualified to be considered does NOT mean they are successful in their applications to medical schools.
All the 36-38 pointers I know are in local Uni doing courses that are not very popular. Those who are in European and US uni are again doing courses that are usually not popular with Singaporeans. -
SL Langlit, Chinese, Econs - 7 points each
HL Chemistry, Physics, Math - 4 points each
TOK/EE - 3 points
PCME is a popular combination. The above gives 36 points but this graduate will NOT have a chance to be shortlisted for Med school at all. So like autolycus pointed out, it matters where the 6 and 7 points are. It is very clearly stated on some Uni admission sites that students must score 6 or 7 in the HL subjects to be considered. -
manorway\" post_id=\"2127911\" time=\"1706093775\" user_id=\"9303:
this makes sense... the ranges for required HL subjects are 666 - 776
SL Langlit, Chinese, Econs - 7 points each
HL Chemistry, Physics, Math - 4 points each
TOK/EE - 3 points
PCME is a popular combination. The above gives 36 points but this graduate will NOT have a chance to be shortlisted for Med school at all. So like autolycus pointed out, it matters where the 6 and 7 points are. It is very clearly stated on some Uni admission sites that students must score 6 or 7 in the HL subjects to be considered.
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