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    • sharonkhooS Offline
      sharonkhoo
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      00skyblue00\" post_id=\"2129331\" time=\"1708301559\" user_id=\"143605:

      That's why we have several service providers and as consumers we can choose wisely. Can do some research, read reviews on course and trainers, compare content and prices.
      I do wish that SkillsFuture could do something to improve their website. I find that there are too many courses listed, not enough ways to filter and compare, and it's just really difficult to find the \"right\" course! Surely they can do something about it.

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      • 00skyblue000 Offline
        00skyblue00
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        slmkhoo\" post_id=\"2129332\" time=\"1708302495\" user_id=\"28674:

        It all comes down to standards. For \"hobby\" courses, the trainer's qualifications are not probably not that important. Someone with years of doing that hobby will be adequate. But for \"work\" courses, training providers and employers have higher standards as to who qualifies to be a trainer, especially if the course will lead to certification and increased pay or a new job. I'm fairly sure that the course fees are audited before the training providers are listed on SkillsFuture, and while they aren't cheap, I don't think they could be much cheaper without compromising on quality. If someone here is in HR/training in an organisation, maybe they can give the latest info on how much inviting a trainer to conduct in-house courses cost?

        And we in Singapore are so fortunate that we actually get given funds and subsidies to take such courses! If I were 20 years younger, I would certainly do some longer and more \"serious\" ones. But over 50 or so, the investment (time and effort, not so much the money) in longer courses with certification didn't seem worthwhile, especially since I didn't have the runway to get established in a new area. And I'm 60 now - so I'm more on the lookout for less \"serious\" courses now.
        Even if I am doing non work related courses , but they are still skill based courses and hence included in the programme. I still would expect them to be of certain standard. Skill future credits are tax payers money, we have the right to expect what we see is in course outline is what we get end of course.
        Most impt is what the course says it will be providing, it really delivers.
        Baking courses are not only for hobbies. One can start small home based business making cookies.

        Even though I was taking intro painting lessons, I do not take it any less seriously. Hence i do not wish to waste my time attending lessons provided by mediocre, just otot type.

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        • sharonkhooS Offline
          sharonkhoo
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          00skyblue00\" post_id=\"2129335\" time=\"1708305441\" user_id=\"143605:

          Even if I am doing non work related courses , but they are still skill based courses and hence included in the programme. I still would expect them to be of certain standard. Skill future credits are tax payers money, we have the right to expect what we see is in course outline is what we get end of course.
          Most impt is what the course says it will be providing, it really delivers.
          Baking courses are not only for hobbies. One can start small home based business making cookies.

          Even though I was taking intro painting lessons, I do not take it any less seriously. Hence i do not wish to waste my time attending lessons provided by mediocre, just otot type.
          Some people don't want to spend too much, and are happy with less onerous courses if it's to be a hobby. Essentially, you get what you pay for, and people should understand that a course with the same title, but with shorter hours and a less-highly qualified trainer will deliver less. It's good to have a range as not everyone wants to pay more for the higher standards, and are happy with less.

          It's true that SkillsFuture, being taxpayers money, should deliver a certain standard of product. But courses at a lower level and intensity, e.g. those for people who want to take a up a new hobby or explore a new area, are still useful and worthy of support, and cheaper! And now SF has different tranches, some limited to only certain types of courses targeted at improving employment and earnings. Only a smaller portion now can be spent on \"lesser\" courses.

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          • Coolkidsrock2C Offline
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            Am doing professional courses online on off so am happy that the credits can also be spent on such by Coursera or Udemy so the range of available courses is quite wide. But best re-confirm if it is claimable before signing-up.

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            • starlight1968sgS Offline
              starlight1968sg
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              At Hillview CC,

              activities which can make use of SkillsFuture credits:
              Basic Bartending & Mixology Skills workshop 10.30am to 5.30pm
              fee: $380

              Participant needs to pay $70 for ingredients to the trainer.

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              • starlight1968sgS Offline
                starlight1968sg
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                slmkhoo\" post_id=\"2129261\" time=\"1708146707\" user_id=\"28674:

                Some have an expiry, some are for life.
                https://www.skillsfuture.gov.sg/initiatives/mid-career/credit
                SkillsFuture Credit $500 (no expiry)
                SkillsFuture Credit Top-Up $500 (expires 31 Dec 2025)
                Additional SkillsFuture Credit (Mid-Career Support) $500 (expires 31 Dec 2025)

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                • sharonkhooS Offline
                  sharonkhoo
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                  Coolkidsrock2\" post_id=\"2129338\" time=\"1708308009\" user_id=\"48901:

                  Am doing professional courses online on off so am happy that the credits can also be spent on such by Coursera or Udemy so the range of available courses is quite wide. But best re-confirm if it is claimable before signing-up.
                  Thanks for the reminder! Must go and have a look at those courses. Somehow what I see on the SF site don't really appeal.

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                  • EstéemaE Offline
                    Estéema
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                    starlight1968sg\" post_id=\"2129340\" time=\"1708310937\" user_id=\"14025:

                    SkillsFuture Credit $500 (no expiry)
                    SkillsFuture Credit Top-Up $500 (expires 31 Dec 2025)
                    Additional SkillsFuture Credit (Mid-Career Support) $500 (expires 31 Dec 2025)
                    Try contact ADDISON Training Centre @ Selegie/Wilkie. They hv similar course which uses yr SkillsFuture but they supply all ingredients (high quality coffee) at no costs to participants. You do not hv to pay any $$ out of pocket. After yr course, if u hv full attendance, u can apply for UTAP fee subsidy, if u’re a NTUC Member (this is separate fr SkillsFuture but a benefit by NTUC Union for members). This then stretches yr SkillsFuture or u ‘encash’ abt 3% of the course fee.

                    I attended the Coffee Barista & AI ChatGPT Courses, that’s how I know. Haha. Try it if u want, pm me for course dates.

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                    • lee_ylL Offline
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                      bbbay\" post_id=\"2129330\" time=\"1708298176\" user_id=\"175278:

                      Toilet cleaning course outline :

                      https://www.ntuclearninghub.com/en-gb/-/course/washroom-maintenance-perform-basic-cleaning-of-washrooms-clpbcw

                      My interpretation of why they are expensive:
                      - students are taught to work in wide area of settings, all types of toilet setting out there. There are more to learn than washing our typical, narrow residential toilet setup most of us are only accustom to washing
                      - these workers can be expected to clean many toilets (maybe 20 toilets per day) actual work setting next time when they return to their station. They are taught additional skill to clean efficiently.
                      - learn to handle industrial grade, cleaning equipment/chemical for cleaning efficiency, which can be tricky and cause health hazard, if not trained well to handle them
                      - these courses produce ready workers upon completion of course, not just workers that only learn theory. In the course of learning, there may be lots of practices, feedbacks for corrections by trainers. All for the purpose of becoming productive right after course completion.
                      - the trainers and training company are pro, with up to date knowledge of industry best practices to be in the position to impact knowledge to students
                      - cleaning chemical will be expended during practices. Multiple cleaning equipments have to be procured for students’ hands on. All these are costs.
                      - high cost training spaces are purpose build and renovated solely only to conduct courses. I recall my home toilet short length re piping cost me $1200

                      I believe, these workers can clean faster and better than us cleaning our residential toilet after completing these courses. Our home toilets are used by a few person. Office/shopping centre toilets are used by hundreds of people. The amount of works/scenarios entailed will be different, and call for different level of skills
                      The toilet-washing course provided by NTUC Hub, which sounds comprehensive, will cost me $172.80 (before GST) if I were to cough out from my own pocket.

                      If I were to sign up as a cleaner at say a shopping mall, I believe the mall will sponsor me to a similar basic course before I start work, right? Then i don’t even need to cough out money to become a general cleaner.

                      But it when comes to using skill future credits, a basic wash toilet course becomes inflated to cost $870? So my question is, is the expensive course value for money ???

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                      • sharonkhooS Offline
                        sharonkhoo
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                        lee_yl\" post_id=\"2129372\" time=\"1708324452\" user_id=\"17023:

                        The toilet-washing course provided by NTUC Hub, which sounds comprehensive, will cost me $172.80 (before GST) if I were to cough out from my own pocket.

                        If I were to sign up as a cleaner at say a shopping mall, I believe the mall will sponsor me to a similar basic course before I start work, right? Then i don’t even need to cough out money to become a general cleaner.

                        But it when comes to using skill future credits, a basic wash toilet course becomes inflated to cost $870? So my question is, is the expensive course value for money ???
                        That's strange. I recently took a course (not this one) from NTUCLH and the fee on the SF site was the same as on their website.

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