* Nanyang JC (NYJC)

[00skyblue00]

bbbay\" post_id=\"2129650\" time=\"1708739575\" user_id=\"175278:

Hmm… CCHM’s students most of them take HCL. Its 2 bonus points is applicable to any JC. Most of the students dont have to turn to NYJC affiliation bonus point, and restrict themselves to NYJC. So the group of CCHM students with gross 7 point (let’s exclude CCA bonus for now to simplified discussion) , minus 2 point (affiliation or HCL bonus, can only choose 1, bcos of max 4 out of 6 rule) , =5 point, this group of students can choose EJC,NJC, ASCI, RI/HCI art stream, on top of NYJC. Not necessarily restricted to NYJC. Because of the flexibility to HCL bonus point.

I agree NYJC has a good nuturing culture.

We will not know for sure the proportion of those from CCMH with hcl, chose RI/HCI/EJC/VJC vs NYJC. Any idea/indication?

but there will be those without HCL, \"captive\".

Hope to see more good results in years to come.

[peasants]

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[bbbay]

00skyblue00\" post_id=\"2129656\" time=\"1708741945\" user_id=\"143605:

We will not know for sure the proportion of those from CCMH with hcl, chose RI/HCI/EJC/VJC vs NYJC. Any idea/indication?

but there will be those without HCL, \"captive\".

Hope to see more good results in years to come.

For discussion sake: My child told me 90% of CCHM students in his cohort took HCL O level. Assuming on an optimistic assumption, 90% of them passed HCL O level, = 81% of the cohort pass HCL O level. majority of CCHM students do not have to rely on affiliation bonus point, even if they choose NYJC - most of them already have the HCL bonus point. My opinion is, it will be just like any students with HCL from any schools and uses it bonus point to enroll into RI/HCI/EJC/NJC. Getting into NYJC primarily with affiliation bonus (deem as non academic merit), is small %.

that is my reason NYJC, taking in mostly students with strong academic merits , achieving such good A level performance, is in line with statistical outcome. Of course I am not taking away the recognition of hard works of the teaching staffs of NYJC, to realise the statistic potential of its students. Maybe realise it with more efficiency/even more care than other schools’ curriculums

[Jerold]

stetan\" post_id=\"2129639\" time=\"1708732166\" user_id=\"3358:

I read the reddit post. How can nyjc have stellar resuts when its median is only an estimated figure? All the other JC posted actual median RI HCI EJC VJC which was really stellar

Estimated figure? Check this.

https://postimg.cc/DW9DP4q8

Vjc result stellar ah, nope, Vjc didnt do that well.
Ejc result.... meh.
https://postimg.cc/7fmGjgtJ

[Crester]

Jerold\" post_id=\"2129677\" time=\"1708782311\" user_id=\"203353:

Estimated figure? Check this.

https://postimg.cc/DW9DP4q8

Vjc result stellar ah, nope, Vjc didnt do that well.
Ejc result.... meh.
https://postimg.cc/7fmGjgtJ

Wa, :congrats:
Nyjc steadily glitching top few JC spot, amongst the IP JCs.

[bbbay]

It has been on my mind for sometimes. Can we draw any conclusions from NYJC’s performance: Are we saying PSLE results is a predictor of all future academic results such that all JAE students (outside top 10% according to PSLE) should not expect to do better than IP students (top 10% according to PSLE) in A level? Because of this belief, NYJC being a pure JAE intake JC, doing better in A level than many IP JCs , is an unexpected big achievement? Or PSLE is not a final predictor as we think, and students can still over take those that did better than them during PSLE, later in life? There will alway be exception but I looking at in general, what will happen to the majority. Or NYJC doing better than many IP JCs is a combination of PSLE is not deterministic plus its curriculum is better than IP JCs?


I fee if there is a significant insight from what is happening in NYJC, future generations will benefit from this insight and be happier , less stressful?

[Crester]

bbbay\" post_id=\"2129689\" time=\"1708838247\" user_id=\"175278:

It has been on my mind for sometimes. Can we draw any conclusions from NYJC’s performance: Are we saying PSLE results is a predictor of all future academic results such that all JAE students (outside top 10% according to PSLE) should not expect to do better than IP students (top 10% according to PSLE) in A level? Because of this belief, NYJC being a pure JAE intake JC, doing better in A level than many IP JCs , is an unexpected big achievement? Or PSLE is not a final predictor as we think, and students can still over take those that did better than them during PSLE, later in life? There will alway be exception but I looking at in general, what will happen to the majority. Or NYJC doing better than many IP JCs is a combination of PSLE is not deterministic plus its curriculum is better than IP JCs?

I fee if there is a significant insight from what is happening in NYJC, future generations will benefit from this insight and be happier , less stressful?

I feel other than Nyjc effective Modes of teaching methods,
no Elitism breeding inside Nyjc unlike some, a humble culture, No overly crazily fun culture, conducive study campus, no IP/JAE division contribute to Nyjc sitting firmly up there.

[zac's mum]

bbbay\" post_id=\"2129689\" time=\"1708838247\" user_id=\"175278:

It has been on my mind for sometimes. Can we draw any conclusions from NYJC’s performance: Are we saying PSLE results is a predictor of all future academic results such that all JAE students (outside top 10% according to PSLE) should not expect to do better than IP students (top 10% according to PSLE) in A level? Because of this belief, NYJC being a pure JAE intake JC, doing better in A level than many IP JCs , is an unexpected big achievement? Or PSLE is not a final predictor as we think, and students can still over take those that did better than them during PSLE, later in life? There will alway be exception but I looking at in general, what will happen to the majority. Or NYJC doing better than many IP JCs is a combination of PSLE is not deterministic plus its curriculum is better than IP JCs?

I fee if there is a significant insight from what is happening in NYJC, future generations will benefit from this insight and be happier , less stressful?

In order to prove a hypothesis of: “PSLE results are an accurate predictor of future A level results”, we would need to look at the PSLE results of the student group (X percentile of the entire cohort), versus the A level results of the same student population (Y percentile of the entire cohort).

If X is similar to Y, then yes we can say it is an accurate predictor.

However, i don’t think that was the premise for setting up IP schools. The premise was that the top 10% of the PSLE cohort is predicted to score well enough to enter university (or “clearly university-bound”. Ref: https://web.archive.org/web/20120124212708/http://moe.gov.sg/education/secondary/other/integrated-programme/)

There was nothing postulated about the non-top 10% being university-bound (or not), and there was also nothing postulated about those who were top-10% but chose to take O levels.

[00skyblue00]

bbbay\" post_id=\"2129659\" time=\"1708746935\" user_id=\"175278:

For discussion sake: My child told me 90% of CCHM students in his cohort took HCL O level. Assuming on an optimistic assumption, 90% of them passed HCL O level, = 81% of the cohort pass HCL O level. majority of CCHM students do not have to rely on affiliation bonus point, even if they choose NYJC - most of them already have the HCL bonus point. My opinion is, it will be just like any students with HCL from any schools and uses it bonus point to enroll into RI/HCI/EJC/NJC. Getting into NYJC primarily with affiliation bonus (deem as non academic merit), is small %.

that is my reason NYJC, taking in mostly students with strong academic merits , achieving such good A level performance, is in line with statistical outcome. Of course I am not taking away the recognition of hard works of the teaching staffs of NYJC, to realise the statistic potential of its students. Maybe realise it with more efficiency/even more care than other schools’ curriculums

There are other jc taking in academically strong students too. Outcome vary.
Methods of teaching and school emphasis differ for different JCs.

[00skyblue00]

There is no suggestion that good psle results definitely translate to good A level results. Children even change as they grow up as many distractions come along the way, nothing is permanent. Even adults change.

As the other poster mentioned, skipping O level is to allow students have more time to go beyond std curriculum. Like GEP. But ultimately, everyone takes A levels, which test std curriculum. There are mainstream students who score better in psle than gep students. Gep does not predict better performance in psle. Most gep students I know still go for tuition for std curriculum in order not to lose out.