Living in Singapore
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slmkhoo\" post_id=\"2131385\" time=\"1711445474\" user_id=\"28674:
Work in programming/coding jobs? It’s logic base: if x then y else “all the others don’t know how to handle yet”.
Again, the social skills issues make this difficult - translating, summarising, marketing, researching - all these require quite a bit of social understanding and negotiations of meanings. We've not found that she is able to do that without help, and I can't be working alongside her now she is an adult.
There is no room for ambiguity in codings. A common error respond programmer will see from a computer screen is “….so and so label is ambiguous….” -
bbbay\" post_id=\"2131386\" time=\"1711446881\" user_id=\"175278:
Sadly, she was a humanities student, and doesn't seem to have interest in programming (we've had her try a couple of intro courses). And actually, I've found that when dealing with programmers, the good ones are good at understanding what the users are getting at, and finding ways to achieve that. The ones that irritate me are the ones who just tell you that their way is the best and most logical, and just can't understand why you would even make that request in the first place. They often can't see that other people might not think like they do.
Work in programming/coding jobs? It’s logic base: if x then y else “all the others don’t know how to handle yet”.
There is no room for ambiguity in codings. A common error respond programmer will see from a computer screen is “….so and so label is ambiguous….” -
slmkhoo\" post_id=\"2131387\" time=\"1711449312\" user_id=\"28674:
Just curious. If your DD is Humanities student, I will assume she is comfortable with languages and have good understanding of texts that cover human endeavours. In what way she has issue with negotiating meanings, as shared by you earlier?
Sadly, she was a humanities student, and doesn't seem to have interest in programming (we've had her try a couple of intro courses).slmkhoo\" post_id=\"2131387\" time=\"1711449312\" user_id=\"28674:
Ha ha I totally see what you mean. In ang mo country, very atas. The ones that talk to users are the business analyst, that will document down the requirement. Another group, the programmers, will follow what is documented and carry out the coding. But the programmers , a lot of them have very good stamina. The “good programmers” are the one that can stare at the screen for most their waking hours.
And actually, I've found that when dealing with programmers, the good ones are good at understanding what the users are getting at, and finding ways to achieve that. The ones that irritate me are the ones who just tell you that their way is the best and most logical, and just can't understand why you would even make that request in the first place. They often can't see that other people might not think like they do.
Normal people would just give up, negotiate and ask user to settle for something simple, which sometimes may not be a bad thing.
Back to the programmers that irritated you. Maybe, you were asking for “drive slowly , plus put on seat belt” This is very reasonable request from a layperson. To the programmer, “don’t need seat belt, since already driving slowly” just for laugh …. -
MrsKiasu\" post_id=\"2131378\" time=\"1711442741\" user_id=\"43981:
Not to discourage, some people have shared with me that setting up own biz is tougher than being employed.
I was pushing my dd1 when she was in P3 to early P5 because there was a need there. When she started cruising on her own, I started to let go. That relatively short period of pushing was stressful. Over the years, over her bumpy road of schooling years, we started to find that we have come to much peace as to what they may be doing for their future. Dh been encouraging them to think more abt doing bz..asking them to think when at eateries, pet cafe etc. That is our base I feel..anything else they want to become is their dream.
Commercial cooking is different from home-cooking - will be good to attend formal training at a culinary school to experience if it is really suitable. Apart from working in the kitchen, other aspects that need taking care of are admin, staff management, funding, marketing / branding strategies, networking, client acquisition ...
For people in food biz, some have roped in family members to help as well as tapped on their contacts as client base. But these are short-term solutions.
We also encourage kids to consider setting up own biz. DD was with a start-up, does not think it is suitable for her. -
Coolkidsrock2\" post_id=\"2131393\" time=\"1711459176\" user_id=\"48901:
I agree.
Not to discourage, some people have shared with me that setting up own biz is tougher than being employed.
Commercial cooking is different from home-cooking - will be good to attend formal training at a culinary school to experience if it is really suitable. Apart from working in the kitchen, other aspects that need taking care of are admin, staff management, funding, marketing / branding strategies, networking, client acquisition ...
For people in food biz, some have roped in family members to help as well as tapped on their contacts as client base. But these are short-term solutions.
We also encourage kids to consider setting up own biz. DD was with a start-up, does not think it is suitable for her.
NEA and SFA regulations are very stringent until a lot of people very scared of them and give up. So opening Biz cafe and eateries in Singapore is not as straightforward as one imagines. -
Coolkidsrock2\" post_id=\"2131393\" time=\"1711459176\" user_id=\"48901:
Yes, you are right. Was looking for one then when thought dd need to come out to work liao..it is not easy.
Not to discourage, some people have shared with me that setting up own biz is tougher than being employed.
Commercial cooking is different from home-cooking - will be good to attend formal training at a culinary school to experience if it is really suitable. Apart from working in the kitchen, other aspects that need taking care of are admin, staff management, funding, marketing / branding strategies, networking, client acquisition ...
For people in food biz, some have roped in family members to help as well as tapped on their contacts as client base. But these are short-term solutions.
We also encourage kids to consider setting up own biz. DD was with a start-up, does not think it is suitable for her. -
slmkhoo\" post_id=\"2131385\" time=\"1711445474\" user_id=\"28674:
My DH side employed 2-3 with social skills issues like what you described above. He said it is very challenging to manage them but at least his organization won’t sack them, which I think is very important. Must also have luck to meet patient and caring colleagues also.
Again, the social skills issues make this difficult - translating, summarising, marketing, researching - all these require quite a bit of social understanding and negotiations of meanings. We've not found that she is able to do that without help, and I can't be working alongside her now she is an adult. -
bbbay\" post_id=\"2131389\" time=\"1711450402\" user_id=\"175278:
There's a difference between mastery of language which you produce yourself, and understanding the nuances of what other people produce. That's why we suggested she opt for Linguistics & Multilingual Studies (less waffly) rather than English Lit (much more waffly)! She tends to interpret things quite literally, and isn't good at reading between the lines. She also isn't good at seeing things from someone else's perspective.
Just curious. If your DD is Humanities student, I will assume she is comfortable with languages and have good understanding of texts that cover human endeavours. In what way she has issue with negotiating meanings, as shared by you earlier? -
lee_yl\" post_id=\"2131396\" time=\"1711460899\" user_id=\"17023:
I'm very glad that she's got a job she can handle quite well, in the public sector, with understanding bosses - it doesn't get better than this for her. I just pray her boss doesn't change too soon!
My DH side employed 2-3 with social skills issues like what you described above. He said it is very challenging to manage them but at least his organization won’t sack them, which I think is very important. Must also have luck to meet patient and caring colleagues also. -
As more specialist are trained in SG, we shld hv less fear for toddlers to be diagnosed as early as 2-3 year-old or once they gets into childcare. SparkleTots have very good tools to help trained childcare educators to identify kids deficits early.
Some needs can be met with early corrective adjustments, whilst those at the further end of the continuum of children with ADH/ADHD/ Dyslexia, Hyperactivity, Autism, etc and more. In the past, we’re not well informed about early intervention and our educators do not have the right educational tools to support children with special needs.
One of the reasons why it is helpful for the child to discover their special needs early is to start intervention coaching for the child early enuf before the child believes their learning path have no correction solution. As an example, a child with dyslexia may often have problem coping with spelling but with early discovery, a therapist will be able to train the child to do early correction & improve their learning. It’s abit similar for DS who hv inherited astigmatism (this is not a special needs condition in the strictest sense), and had difficulties with alphabets such as “o”, “c”, “b”, “d”, and we noticed his difficulties as early as 3-years of age. After getting appropriate ophthalmologic correction, he quickly corrected his brain imprint.
Not all special needs can be supported by intervention. I had a churchmate’s son, whose condition of synapses disconnect of eye reception to written records, was only discovered when he frequently did not prepare for his spelling. The form-teacher had communicated to his mum for dates of spelling but he never came home with his spelling lists. Parents of his peers had been offering their children’s list & finally was sent for diagnosis. He had to take lifetime medication to help him with that part of brain connect to receive messages his eyes suppose to communicate to his brain before actions can be taken. It’s sad coz when he was a child, he was not only a happy kid but a very talented one with regurgitating historical dates, played his musical instruments excellently sans anything that was new to be acted upon.
In today’s context, the problem is not with the lack of professional help but s’times children suffers most when parents go into self-denial & delayed early intervention.
When I was teaching Sunday school, I was able to identify children with their respective needs (only becoz I was trained in Australia when I took my Masters in Education) and often alert a couple of parents to get professional assessments for their beloved child(ren). One mum was not receptive & I backed off in case she reacts further to the detriment of the child, as he obviously enjoys interaction with other kids, except to speak in response. He’ll just speak gibberish, hence tho we cld see he’s happy & cld respond by doing the right actions, he cld not articulate himself. His mum just passed it off as him being a slow learner & given time he shld step up. We spoke to the boy’s aunt & it was in the next 2 years that this boy got his speech therapy at NUH properly diagnosed. I’m not a practicing educator, so I can’t share incidences that are not diagnosed.
Again, there are others situations that can delay a child’s learning abilities. A colleague’s 1st daughter was not speaking even at age 2. She was finally diagnosed having speech difficulties as the mum don’t speak mum English & was plonked an iPad daily with nursery songs, etc. At NUH, she was given intervention to encourage her to respond verbally & my colleague was told not to let young children be exposed for more than an hour daily with screen contact, but parents shld interact with the child more. Then when daughter 2 came along, the mum made the same mistake with child2 & she wasn’t speaking too, despite DD1 started speaking (but it was only to fight for toys, etc). So, this DD2 still refused to speak till parents surrendered & approach NUH therapist. To think I used to limit my kids to 15 mins screentime on weekends (but did some reward of time extensions when the right behaviors & obedience were exhibited)!
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